Honda-SOHC
Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: Rozabikes Tim on June 06, 2023, 05:23:56 PM
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Well I never a CBX Sandcast.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166153302016?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=yuemnLWVQbK&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Wwl4JSf7QJi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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That's a bit rough looking in the engine department. And that my friends makes it worth a fortune. Eh?
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I wonder if Honda would have a claim to say the bikes been stolen if the dealers were instructed to scrap the machine and they clearly didn't comply.
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I wonder if Honda would have a claim to say the bikes been stolen if the dealers were instructed to scrap the machine and they clearly didn't comply.
Thought similar...
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It may be 30k but whoever put it together left a corner of the cambox gasket hanging out. If I saw that I wouldn't be happy to trust the rest of the bike.
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Deep in memory, I have something like a tab on those cam cover gasket that stood out, but really can't be sure if true or where it was sited.
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I wonder if Honda would have a claim to say the bikes been stolen if the dealers were instructed to scrap the machine and they clearly didn't comply.
A theft charge would not cross the first evidential hurdle no dishonest appropriation of the property - that's my view.
That does not mean that Honda could not consider a civil claim to have the bike returned - I suspect a civil claim would be outside the time limits for such action - I know little about civil law.
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Surely it was dishonest of the dealer not to comply with specific instructions from the owner of the bike, Honda would assume the bike had been destroyed and they have never relinquished ownership so any subsequent ownership is null and void
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Dont know about a tab but remember needing a tube of evostick and 3 Honda "Blue Book" manuals to get the new gasket to stay in whilst refitting cover after tappet adjustment
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Surely it was dishonest of the dealer not to comply with specific instructions from the owner of the bike, Honda would assume the bike had been destroyed and they have never relinquished ownership so any subsequent ownership is null and void
The Theft Act 1968 does not define in law what is meant by "Dishonest" though it does give examples of what might "not be dishonest". If you give me £100 to help me buy a car but instead I spend it to go on holiday I have not dishonestly appropriated the £100 you gave me by doing something different with the money. That's before we even start with mens rea & actus reus.
Definitely an out of time Civil Law case - here in the UK it might have been impossible to first register the vehicle without the manufacturers V55/1 form from Honda. Today most new vehicles are registered directly by the supplying dealer via a special computerised direct registration system to DVLA - forgotten the name of the system - even so sometimes a dealer will use a V55/1 it's very similar to the V55/5 except it has extra codes from the manufacturer as well as the Engine & Chassis numbers plus other stuff.
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If they had fitted new brake discs it would have looked even more authentic! Just saying! 🤭🤭
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What's a sympathetic restoration?
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Sheesh, £30k - I used to own a red one and to be honest, I thought it a death trap. Remember getting into a weave on the M11 and that made parts of my body pukker. I met a guy in Feltham at the time who had NO'd his bike - nutter of a bike.....
Can't remember the reg of mine otherwise I'd look it up.
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Rode a CBX once. Honda used to do an open day at Donington. You could ride anything in the range!
My memories were engine, engine and size. Wouldn't like to press on round the Twisties on one.
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What's a sympathetic restoration?
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I believe it's where you play classical music in the background whilst restoring it and keep telling the bike, "Now, now, it'll be fine in the end!"
I, of course, could be wrong!
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Sheesh, £30k - I used to own a red one and to be honest, I thought it a death trap. Remember getting into a weave on the M11 and that made parts of my body pukker. I met a guy in Feltham at the time who had NO'd his bike - nutter of a bike.....
Can't remember the reg of mine otherwise I'd look it up.
It took me a while to work out what NO'd meant. Maybe I've been inhaling too much Nitrous lately? 😁
I used to live in Feltham in the Eighties, small world. I didn't have the CBX but I did build a beach buggy there, a blue GP long wheelbase. Those were my hang-gliding days, used to put it on the roof of the buggy.
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I don’t just get the back story that goes with this bike.
Why would Honda build 41 prototypes of the bike and then give them to dealers, surely a prototype is to test the ideas and technology used within the bike and to evaluate those parts and how they work together in a controlled setting such as the factory test track? Any changes required would then be made to the original or a second prototype built and so on until the designers were happy with the end product. Why build 41 prototypes to the same configuration and give them to dealers? I assume the dealers would not allow the public to ride them on the road but to just look at them which would then call into question the logic of Honda to supply the bikes with ‘sand-cast’ engines and not the finish as would be applied to production bikes. The finish on the engine of the bike for sale does look rough and if I had been in the market for such a flagship bike at the time and was shown this bike I would have changed my mind!
If the bike is a genuine prototype surely Honda would have known that not all 41 bikes would be scrapped and especially considering the CBX was ground breaking when it was released.
I’m thinking this bike is not a prototype in the true sense but a pre-production model and as Ken pointed out, would Honda be allowed to claim the bike back as I presume the dealers they were sent to didn’t actually pay for them, they were for display only and therefore remain the property of the Honda Motor Company.
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Gareth, I have this vision of you in your Buggy, bronzed, beach blonde hair Mambo T-Shirt :o
I used to live in Clapham at the time (the worst bit!)
Lay off the NO is my advice!!
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Gareth, I have this vision of you in your Buggy, bronzed, beach blonde hair Mambo T-Shirt :o
I used to live in Clapham at the time (the worst bit!)
Lay off the NO is my advice!!
Sorry to burst your bubble Matt. This was the reality. 😫
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;D ;D ;D
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What I find odd is that Queens Park Motors, the biggest Honda dealer in the North of England didn't get one of the 41, maybe it was limited to 1 per country? and of course they'd pick a London dealer if that was the case. Clive the owner of QPM would almost certainly have sold it, biggest crook on the planet.
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Matt Hancock with a beard?
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Matt Hancock with a beard?
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STARTS RUNS AND RIDES. And we've done 300mtrs on it.
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You could look at the economics another way..... 43 yes old, if you bought it new, arranged for competent storage at £10 a week, didn't run it or possibly insure it......then that wouod be £22,360....... take that from the price and it's not that bad :)
Would it go down or up now though ? That's from here onward.
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Not sure how much a nice CBX sells for today - I suspect you could buy a tidy one for under £20k with change to spare so not sure it's worth £10k extra for what looks like a dull finished engine.
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Not sure how much a nice CBX sells for today - I suspect you could buy a tidy one for under £20k with change to spare so not sure it's worth £10k extra for what looks like a dull finished engine.
Re: It's a Sandcast Jim but not if we know it...
Ted Ted Ted. How long have you been on this site? Should know better. Sandcasts are to be cherished. That engine finish is its "raison d'etre". Just sit and stroke it with a smug look! The 10k is worth every penny.
All this is said with the tongue fully lodged in one's cheek! ::)