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Title: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Moorey on April 27, 2024, 08:13:44 PM
  Please fill this one out it can only be a benefit to have nationwide rules against the lottery that it is now when you can travel from on area to another and be under a different set of rules and picking up PCNs simply because you missed reading one sign out of all those that now litter our roads.

    https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/LL7S32/
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Johnwebley on April 27, 2024, 08:32:56 PM
A great idea

Locally I can ride in bus lanes in a couple of towns, others, I am not sure

Let's have a firm,yes

Two wheels can use bus and taxi lanes

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Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: DomP on April 27, 2024, 08:38:49 PM
I did my test in Newport where the bus lanes switch constantly from being use/don't use, it was a right distraction having to try and see the signs around high sided vehicles and remain safe.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: magpie114 on April 27, 2024, 09:03:09 PM
Good idea, survey completed.


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Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 27, 2024, 09:09:48 PM
Survey completed 👍. Thanks for posting the thread.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Bloggs on April 27, 2024, 09:14:44 PM
Done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on April 27, 2024, 09:20:12 PM
Done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Nurse Julie on April 27, 2024, 09:41:27 PM
Done.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 27, 2024, 09:51:39 PM
Done.👍
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Athame57 on April 27, 2024, 10:10:08 PM
Done. Raised my voice a bit too!  ;D
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Mike_Berkshire on April 28, 2024, 08:37:40 AM
Done.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: neat street on April 28, 2024, 08:58:12 AM
done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: cbxman on April 28, 2024, 09:15:21 AM
Done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Spitfire on April 28, 2024, 10:25:59 AM
Done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 28, 2024, 11:36:14 AM
I would like to think the Mayor of London (and therefore the head of TfL who are responsible for bus lanes) will implement the use of bus lanes for motorcycles if that is what the outcome of the public consultation decides. Unfortunately the Mayor of London does what he and the minority with the loudest voices want not what the majority have requested through a democratic process. The expansion of ULEZ is a perfect example of his thinking. Prior to the expansion of ULEZ TfL posted a public consultation paper asking if the taxpayers and road users of London thought the ULEZ expansion was a good idea. The mayor received something in the region of 14,000 responses to the consultation of which over 10,000 were opposed to the expansion. This was obviously bad news for the Mayor and his cash cow idea so he ignored the majority and implemented the expansion of ULEZ anyway giving people just eight months notice to get rid of their allegedly polluting vehicles and buying something compliant. The values of old cars plummeted overnight whilst the values of compliant vehicles massively increased, if you could find one. Still, every cloud has a silver lining and as if by magic your otherwise dirty polluting vehicle the fumes of which allegedly kill people can become clean if you pay the mayor £12 a day 🙄.
I hope we are allowed to use all the bus lanes in London instead of just a few that a poorly signposted but I think London will be excluded from any legislation on the orders of a dictator Mayor.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: SumpMagnet on April 28, 2024, 12:17:22 PM
London's Mayor is up for election next week.

Sadiq the Idiot will only be in power if people vote him there. Or worse...don;t bother to vote, thus once more allowing a vocal minority who DO vote to dictate who is in power.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Seabeowner on April 28, 2024, 07:53:52 PM
Done.
Only bus lanes around here are Slough and they are all OK to use.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Athame57 on April 28, 2024, 08:04:40 PM
London's Mayor is up for election next week.

Sadiq the Idiot will only be in power if people vote him there. Or worse...don;t bother to vote, thus once more allowing a vocal minority who DO vote to dictate who is in power.
I will be getting up bright and early to vote against this power freak!
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 29, 2024, 08:14:36 AM
Done
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: andy120t on April 29, 2024, 08:21:18 AM
Done.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on April 29, 2024, 10:43:57 AM
Just thinking about this from a non bikers point if view as their opinion will be very relevant.

Having driven down to the centre of London last week in the car, I found it quite stressful as a country bumpkin!! There were a number of occasions when I really questioned the safety awareness of some of the delivery scooters. Cutting in front at some speed and then  moving into an adjacent lane with no notice (all in one move) etc. I am a biker and we all know there are some idiots out there just like the cars, vans and trucks.

I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary.  Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Athame57 on April 29, 2024, 11:21:16 AM

I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary.  Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
As far as I've ever known since I returned to biking six years ago we are allowed in the bus lanes. The scooter delivery riders are mostly food express or worse, but certainly more law abiding than the average cyclist who seems to think the law is advisory only.
I rode as a realdespatch rider in the 1980-90s before technology broke the industry. Our mission was not very compatible with the law  ;)
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 29, 2024, 11:41:09 AM

I think if they had the freedom of the bus lane, some of the questionable bike driving would not be necessary.  Hopefully my other fear of cyclists being more exposed by motorbikes would be addressed by all us 2 wheelers being aware of our own vulnerability??
As far as I've ever known since I returned to biking six years ago we are allowed in the bus lanes. The scooter delivery riders are mostly food express or worse, but certainly more law abiding than the average cyclist who seems to think the law is advisory only.
I rode as a realdespatch rider in the 1980-90s before technology broke the industry. Our mission was not very compatible with the law  ;)

9/10 of the delivery scooter riders in London do not carry business insurance required by law if a vehicle is being used for business purposes. Therefore if you get hit by one of these idiots you are on your own. As for law abiding, no way. I was out walking a couple of weeks ago when I came across the road being dug up and a three way traffic light system was in operation. Two scooter riders could be bothered to wait and rode up on the pavement coming past me at 20-30mph. They ride around using their phones and disregard any road signs frequently riding in cycle lanes. The like of Deliveroo allow a scooter riders to have an account with them with up to 10 substitute riders on the same account. It is up to the account holder to check the substitutes have insurance and a licence etc, Deliveroo don't want to know as the rider is classed as self employed. This is where the illegals are finding easy work and this government allows it to go unchecked. The mayor of London bleating on about safer streets etc but he does nothing about this but turns a blind eye. I went to a neighborhood watch meeting two weeks ago and a number of women spoke up saying how they have ordered takeaways from Deliveroo and specifically asked for a female to deliver it, and the app shows the female rider but when it turns up it is delivered by a male.
These scooters are a menace, they are not interested in biking at all, they are a means to earn money with little outlay.
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Athame57 on April 29, 2024, 12:45:41 PM
These scooters are a menace, they are not interested in biking at all, they are a means to earn money with little outlay.
I know for a damn fact many are also on benefits too!
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: taysidedragon on April 29, 2024, 01:08:57 PM
Done. 👍
Title: Re: USE OF BUS LANES
Post by: Johnny4428 on April 29, 2024, 10:18:49 PM
Just completed survey on behalf of the general opinion here. No bus lanes in Orkney 😳
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