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Title: Sintered pads
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 19, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
Hi Chaps

Has anyone who has fitted sintered front pads noticed much difference? Have overhauled the front calliper which really needed doing so I'm sure the breaking will feel a bit better anyway but not sure if I should fit standard pads or sintered.
Ta
Julie
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Johnwebley on November 19, 2014, 07:14:58 PM
on my 500-4,I am using the "cheepo"

 Dave Silver pads,

 I am sure they are the same for your 400
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Trigger on November 19, 2014, 07:17:49 PM
Yes John but, you forgot to mention that you have 4 pads. Vesrah is good.
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on November 19, 2014, 07:31:26 PM
"Back in the day" we all used sintered pads and believed that they were better in the wet.

Truth be told, they were still rubbish in the wet.

We drilled our discs too...
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on November 19, 2014, 07:45:50 PM
Cant say I have heard of them but as Trig says yes to vesrah
DS ones last lot had to grind down to fit crap
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: hairygit on November 19, 2014, 07:50:34 PM
I seem to recall that sintered pads used to score brake discs on some bikes, and as Steve said, there wasn't much improvement in wet weather braking, which was what they were supposed to do!

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Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Johnwebley on November 19, 2014, 08:23:45 PM
Cant say I have heard of them but as Trig says yes to vesrah
DS ones last lot had to grind down to fit crap
Cheers
Bitsa

 fair does Bitsa,the DSS pads fitted perfectly first time for me,no filing the paint of the circumference,WOW,spelt that 1st time !!

little copper grease and hey presto,yes,they are hard,and have taken some time to bed in
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on November 19, 2014, 08:27:11 PM
John
This was a few years ago now maybe improved now like a lot of parts.They were just to big to go in the caliper.Once fitted worked fine
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Green1 on November 19, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
Mine are also cheapo DSS pads they also went straight in.They also took an age to bed in so I roughed mine up with 40 grit paper and rounded the leading edge and they have now stopped squeaking 

Mick
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: K2-K6 on November 19, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
These old discs where designed to run with non sintered pads and the advantage of using sintered with these sytems is maybe hard to see. It also seems accepted that with sintered you'd expect the disc itself to share the wear during use and ultimately change the disc itself far more often which doesn't really happen with old type non sintered pads.
As you've said Julie, there should be an improvement after servicing the caliper. i'd go with standard or Vesrah.

Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: tom400f on November 20, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
I used EBC ones:
http://ebcbrakesdirect.com/store/automotive/vt/1/mk/c5e6fc21-8874-49f5-84bd-1094e5dd73b8/md/df880e96-a293-4bac-8d64-343e713de0b3/vid/4ff7e117-9fc2-4dcf-b45b-16009dd7d8c5

This is on the basis of that btinternet 400F restoration site but I didn't think to ask here first.

They seem OK but only used in the dry. Anyone else used them?
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: ka-ja on November 20, 2014, 09:22:32 AM
Have used sintered pads for years, they do improve braking, but increase disc wear, and I too object to the phase "male menopause", I am on my 2nd. childhood, and its great!
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 20, 2014, 10:54:17 AM
So it's a toss up between slightly better braking and slightly more wear on the disc. Maybe I should just go for 'normal' and see if they feel any better now the caliper has been services. Thanks for your advise.

Julie
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on November 21, 2014, 07:19:38 AM
I ordered EBC organic pads in error for my Tiger 1050. They were no better or worse than the HH pads I normally use but wore out completely in 5000 miles. That's twice as quick as I would expect.
Not relevant to our old bikes I know, but it would indicate that they are made with a softer compound (recycled compost? How can brake pads be organic?)
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Trigger on November 21, 2014, 09:22:04 AM
I ordered EBC organic pads in error for my Tiger 1050. They were no better or worse than the HH pads I normally use but wore out completely in 5000 miles. That's twice as quick as I would expect.
Not relevant to our old bikes I know, but it would indicate that they are made with a softer compound (recycled compost? How can brake pads be organic?)

Must be made from banana skins Steve.
Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Johnwebley on November 21, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
I ordered EBC organic pads in error for my Tiger 1050. They were no better or worse than the HH pads I normally use but wore out completely in 5000 miles. That's twice as quick as I would expect.
Not relevant to our old bikes I know, but it would indicate that they are made with a softer compound (recycled compost? How can brake pads be organic?)


 before I fitted the twins discs to my 500,I briefly fitted the £25 EBC pads,in the dry ,they felt useless,no bite,hight lever pressure,
in fact ,I felt a complete lack of confidence in then,BUT !! in soaking wet,they worked great, ?? Go figure !!!

so I junked them btw,the pad material appeared softish and a slate grey colour,maybe the new 2014/2015 is better

Title: Re: Sintered pads
Post by: Lynx on November 26, 2014, 09:35:28 AM
The ones my 400 came with were highly sintered. Just looked like they were made of copper! I don't know what make they were but they were rubbish. I am now using SBS which I think are slightly sintered and are an improvement.
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