Post by: Oddjob on February 24, 2023, 11:29:27 AM
The name of the place is Camcoat, 129 Hoyle Street, Bewsey Industrial Estate, Warrington WA5 0LP. https://www.camcoat.com/
Quickest way in to it is via J9 M62. Go south down the A49 towards Warrington, over the first roundabout, at the 4th set of traffic lights look for McDonalds on the right, filter lane to turn right which you need, turn right onto Kerfoot Lane, go over the hump back bridge over the railway lines and through the traffic lights immediately after, at the next set of lights turn left into Bewsey Road, then take the first left into Hoyle Street, carry on to the end, at the end of this road is a set of gates straight ahead, do not go through them, turn left just before and then follow the road round to the right, at the very bottom of this road on your left is Camcoat, it's the 2nd from the last unit.
The range of surface finishes they can do is extensive so be sure to make sure you know what you want and more importantly that they do as well.
For satin black ceramic ask for BHK-1 coat
For gold like the wheels on my project page ask for CG-Gold
For a chrome like finish ask for Cermakrome MCX.
There is also a silver finish similar to the crankcase colour which I think is called ALU but will confirm when I get my parts back next week.
They have also started to do powder coating, I've got some parts in at the moment for gloss black finish, I'll post pics of them and an assessment of my opinion on the finish when I pick them up next week.
Prices seem to be very reasonable and turn round time is approx 2 weeks at present.
Hope this helps.
Post by: Sesman on February 24, 2023, 12:27:19 PM
Post by: Oddjob on February 24, 2023, 12:59:53 PM
Here's what the silver looks like, you can sort of see the finish.
(https://i.postimg.cc/281Jrhdv/IMG-3061.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yhw8x4sq)
Just had the rod hard chromed, £65 plus VAT this time :o :o Last one I had done was £23 inc VAT, not sure how they an justify that sort of increase even with increased costs.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 24, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
It’s the Alu I’m interested in. I’ve made contact with Nick Adams and waiting for a reply on pre prep and cost for alternator, clutch and chain case covers. What do you think?
Phil, it looks really good close to, I'm super chuffed with the motor on the 550, it came out superb. Deffo a nicer finish than paint but it always depends on the painter as you know.
Post by: Sesman on February 24, 2023, 07:55:36 PM
Post by: Oddjob on February 25, 2023, 12:37:57 PM
Post by: JamesH on February 27, 2023, 01:45:28 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 02:15:44 PM
Cermchrome on the outside, all shiny and blackjinside to protect the inners. £363 all in with carrage both ways and the dreaded Vodka And Tonic. Not bad I reckon. I'll bob some piccies up when they get here and are out of the box.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 02:20:52 PM
Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 02:23:21 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 02:32:58 PM
Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 02:54:26 PM
Post by: Oddjob on February 27, 2023, 03:03:28 PM
Roo, I reckon Phil may have caught the Ted disease, watch out in case you get contaminated as well..
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 27, 2023, 03:42:05 PM
I still see a really nice nut brown frame when I am dreaming at night
It might have been a real wtf head turning colour. 🤔🤔🤔
Post by: Oddjob on February 27, 2023, 03:43:47 PM
Seriously though, if you wanted it you should have gone for it and ignored what others think, it's your bike.
Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 03:53:24 PM
Don’t suppose anybody on the forum can identify that ‘bright silver’ colour?
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 04:01:01 PM
Do you mean bright silver as in the same as my engine colour? That's silver Cerecote...........
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 04:01:36 PM
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Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 04:20:24 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 04:29:09 PM
Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 04:56:52 PM
Post by: taysidedragon on February 27, 2023, 06:00:38 PM
It might be the pale golden end of the bronze spectrum rather than my Nut Brown end.
I still see a really nice nut brown frame when I am dreaming at night
It might have been a real wtf head turning colour. 🤔🤔🤔
🤣 They say you can't polish a turd! Please don't paint it like one in the first place. 😫
Post by: Sesman on February 27, 2023, 06:46:27 PM
Roo has been kind enough to send me an example of bright silver cerakote and that’s probably the way I’ll go.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 08:12:24 PM
Post by: Oddjob on February 27, 2023, 10:01:08 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 27, 2023, 11:52:35 PM
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Post by: Oddjob on February 28, 2023, 12:51:34 AM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 28, 2023, 07:09:21 PM
Either that or I coud pick em up next time im in yourk next month and sort it but TBD I should think....
Post by: Sesman on February 28, 2023, 07:28:08 PM
See what you mean by the Alu, Ken. I’m vacillating between Alu and Bright silver now. Damn it, it wish somebody could turn up with the original cover paint match.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 28, 2023, 07:50:20 PM
Post by: Oddjob on February 28, 2023, 08:00:02 PM
Post by: Sesman on February 28, 2023, 08:42:52 PM
Hey Ash, is there the remotest possibility your Honda Britain contact would know. I ask simply as the trend seems to be polish rather than paint the engine covers and I really do prefer the original, authentic look…it’s the traditionalist in me.
Post by: Oddjob on February 28, 2023, 09:05:29 PM
After searching it appears it may be.
I also spotted this which looks kinda close as well
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/normfest-silver-star-wheel-rim-silver-400ml-nor2893883
Don't forget they need to be lacquered after painting.
Post by: Sesman on February 28, 2023, 09:21:30 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 01, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
The silver was Cerakote Glacier silver code C-7700
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Post by: Sesman on March 02, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
Post by: Oddjob on March 08, 2023, 03:52:51 PM
Some more ceramic coating, seat lock and brake splitter done in Satin Black. Speedo done in ALK. Experimented with some tacho dishes done in Satin Black as well, not the best of finishes TBH but it should be far more resistant to scratches than normal spray paint.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wj62r71D/IMG-3091.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVhbcW4L)
And some gloss black powder coating.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7FGgwjG/IMG-3090.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVxSpQrV)
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 08, 2023, 04:30:16 PM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on March 08, 2023, 05:17:55 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 08, 2023, 05:53:40 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 08, 2023, 06:21:36 PM
It's not a neat fit like the 400 was.
Post by: Sesman on March 08, 2023, 10:11:35 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 08, 2023, 11:46:38 PM
Still fault finding, I need some welding done as well, found the front footrests hang slightly lower than they should, need a blob of weld on them which I'll grind down until they hang perfectly straight. I'm trying to find all the faults BEFORE I have anything painted, like I'll be drilling out the seat hinge lugs on the frame to accommodate slightly larger pins, the hinge bar has already been done and now coated.
Post by: Oddjob on March 21, 2023, 03:54:05 PM
Parts collected today involve 7 handlebar switch halves, all 4 of the ones I'll be using and some spares, the rest were parts off my 1300. I'll post some pics of the handlebar switch halves when they have been painted with the orange lettering paint.
Dropped off today, CB550 top and CB500 bottom yokes, CB550 speedo/tacho mounting plate, L/H riders footrest, 2 x hero blob plates for riders footrests, 4 x CB500 exhaust hanger plates, CB500 rear engine hanger plate, CB500 number plate holder, seat lock plate after being modified, CB550 electrical plate under L/H side panel, starter motor body, another seat hinge bar and a few 1300 parts as well.
I have a box of bits missing somewhere, can't seem to find it, as usual it will turn up when I'm not looking for it. Not sure what's in it but for sure the engine hanger plates. Luckily I had a spare rear one so I'll get that done.
Post by: Sesman on March 21, 2023, 04:21:38 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 21, 2023, 04:54:32 PM
Got a bit of welding to organise, things like the webbing on the swinging arm, Honda left parts of the joint open and it's just a water trap and allows water to access the internal parts of the tubing, I want them to be seam welded to stop this, grease nipple point on the main stand, riders and passengers footrests need a blob welding on them until they sit straight, side stand wants straightening, can't get it hot enough to bend without Oxy.
Frame needs cleaning, sanding down and all the welds dressing, hate weld splatter that Honda just left on, then I'll fit things like footrest and seat and see if they hang straight and I can alter the frame to make sure they do before having it powder coated. Once it's back it should be almost built in a few weeks, just some parts still need chroming, still sanding all the pits out of the metal.
I'll figure out what I don't need then and sell most of my spares, might have a NOS CB500K1 seat for sale, a CB550F chain guard NOS, a CB550F grabrail NOS, and some of my newly restored and coated parts might also be for sale.
Which reminds me, I need to go and see my seat man so he can make me a new seat, going for a genuine leather seat cover made to match the chocolate block effect of the 500K1 pattern with an embroidered Honda logo on the back. Not sure yet what colour embroidery, might go for gold or maybe silver thread. Already got a price which was dear but will be worth it. If it turns out ok I may have another done the same with my spare seat pan and sell it on.
Post by: Oddjob on March 21, 2023, 04:59:43 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dzzfdz6k/IMG-3095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZW1hJ4XV)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FVhYMX8/IMG-3097.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXsNWzQV)
Post by: Sesman on March 21, 2023, 05:38:04 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 21, 2023, 06:47:43 PM
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51618607335_2bc5fa4cd6_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mDmRAx)rear wheel bearing fitted (https://flic.kr/p/2mDmRAx) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49699298992_43260810af_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iHKU6o)SL with Green Hood (https://flic.kr/p/2iHKU6o) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
Post by: SPR on March 21, 2023, 08:18:42 PM
Simon
Post by: Oddjob on March 21, 2023, 09:03:44 PM
Post by: Sesman on March 22, 2023, 07:33:24 AM
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 22, 2023, 08:09:10 AM
Loving the contrast with rim and spokes.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 22, 2023, 08:58:12 AM
These CB1300 gold wheels are lovely! Ted, did you have these rims coated or were they purchased coated?
Loving the contrast with rim and spokes.
The 400 Hubs are powder coated in a sort of chrome/Ally colour, rims are Gold Anodized Alloy from CWC.
I wanted the Hubs the same gold colour but they did not have a close match in powder coating options.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on March 22, 2023, 09:01:09 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 22, 2023, 09:12:59 AM
Post by: Oddjob on March 22, 2023, 01:24:37 PM
Hey, Ken. Out of interest which m/c are you going to use on the 500.I’m sure you have mentioned it before, but to save me searching…..?
Using a cb1300 one Phil, will be taking it off the 1300 shortly and replacing it with a radial mc to match the Brembo calipers which go on at the same time. The brake mc matches the clutch mc that was ceramic coated a few weeks ago.
Not sure yet which brake switch I’ll use but probably the original as I’ve already bought the braided lines.
Post by: Oddjob on April 06, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
I'll just show the 500 bits though. All the bits.
(https://i.postimg.cc/X7HRzB0h/IMG-3119.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZCNs9RnF)
Rear number plate bracket, turned out rather well considering how it looked beforehand, not even sure I'll use this in the build as I have a chrome one as well I might fit instead. Gloss black
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6fp1qr3/IMG-3120.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5jCSgrJf)
Top yoke and speedo/tacho plate, satin black. The top yoke was the only piece that needed redoing as it gassed off the first time and ruined the finish.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrP3N6B3/IMG-3121.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvJbFYZV)
Seat lock bracket, had it redone after having to alter it a little to fit the seat lock better, another seat hinge bar, got 3 of these now. 1 will be for sale soon. Gloss black
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xbHbGcW/IMG-3122.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYzKN2DS)
A NOS CB550 L/H riders footrest that I bought, the paintwork was untidy even being new so I had it redone. Should look better. Might use this, might not. My old ones are not done yet, need a spot weld done on them to make the pegs sit perfectly flat. Gloss black
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKHJ99q1/IMG-3123.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBxph6Kd)
Set of CB500K exhaust hanger brackets, there's a before pic on my restoration thread showing just how bad these were. Gloss black
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTsCL8kM/IMG-3124.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbRKdy9x)
CB550F electrical bracket, satin black
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NYgfXCD/IMG-3126.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzryLMQG)
That's it, turned out really well, very pleased, the satin is shinier than the normal place I have them done but it will do. 2 pieces not shown in close up was the starter motor body, it's the cylindrical tube top right. I had asked them to coat the inside of it as well but they gave it back like that. Should be ok though. The other piece was the bottom yoke, forgot to photo it
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 06, 2023, 03:04:31 PM
I vote curry at yours looking at that herb collection, bloody hell
!Surprised the labels are not facing forward though
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 06, 2023, 03:12:52 PM
Seeing the spice rack reminded me of this sketch.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnQTDO8lL8I&t=3s
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 06, 2023, 03:13:19 PM
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Post by: Oddjob on April 06, 2023, 03:21:08 PM
I haven't got OCD Roo, I'm just a perfectionist when it comes to my bikes.
Need to start building up some of those bits now, I can finally fit the clocks on the bracket now. Fit the steering lock into the bottom yoke etc. Then I'll start to see how the bikes going to look. Might spur me on a bit.
Think I'll start to sell a few parts that aren't needed, the cost of all this powder/ceramic coating is mounting up.
I had a word with them regarding getting my crankcases done, I asked if I prepped them could they not blast them with media BUT it's part of their process and it's a way of ensuring the ceramic sticks, they did suggest doing them like they prep for anodising though, an acid etch, so looks like I'm going that way. I'll start having some of the bolt on parts done first, oilpan, filter housing, oil gallery caps, maybe even the camcover. I'm going for a contrast look, silver crankcases, satin black barrels and head, silver camcover with mirror polished tappet covers and endcaps and all the bolt on bits will be black if they bolt to silver and silver if they bolt to black.
Oh forgot to mention ,barrel and head fins along with oil filter housing fins will be polished on the edges. Not bothering with the oil pan ones, you can go OTT after all ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 06, 2023, 03:32:49 PM
It would be a shame to over so it bud, especially when you’re trying to keep it stock
First sign of someone with OCD is that person denying it!
Just sayin
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Post by: Matt_Harrington on April 06, 2023, 05:43:20 PM
Post by: Oddjob on April 18, 2023, 05:37:36 PM
These CB1300 gold wheels are lovely! Ted, did you have these rims coated or were they purchased coated?
Loving the contrast with rim and spokes.
The 400 Hubs are powder coated in a sort of chrome/Ally colour, rims are Gold Anodized Alloy from CWC.
I wanted the Hubs the same gold colour but they did not have a close match in powder coating options.
ANy idea what the RAL colour code is for that finish Ted?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 18, 2023, 05:52:59 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 19, 2023, 09:31:34 AM