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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB350/400 => Topic started by: AshimotoK0 on June 18, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
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After telling me they had no plans to reproduce orginal pipes on Facebook recently.
Now look :o
DOWNPIPES
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=179_274_195_231&products_id=3140&language=en
SILENCER
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=179_274_195_231&products_id=3138
If they are anything like the 750 no. no. pipes going to be high quality I reckon.
Send DSS a message via FB to see if he is stocking them .
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Hard to tell if they look double-skinned?
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How strange , after them telling you they had no plans to do them
pete
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How strange , after them telling you they had no plans to do them
pete
Strange yes but two years ago DK told me they would never import CB350 twins in any significant numbers. Now they import shed loads of CB's & CL's
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And look at the quality of them. Nice.
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They do look good quality. I wonder how much P&P is.
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They do look good quality. I wonder how much P&P is.
Ask David at Saisei for a quote . He's always very reasonable on prices and an official Yamiya agent for Europe. The re-manufacture and supply of these has got to be a milestone in the history of the 400/4 IMHO.
Ash
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Well nobody's chipped in with a landed price to the UK inc. VAT
So here is the simplistic Ashimoto estimate.
If they do end up being decent quality inc double skinned headers then eat your heart out the likes of bikepusher on eBay with their 'Worth 1500GBP 'all day long' asking prices for NOS systems.
750K0 No.No. Yamiya exhausts 165000 Yen= 1338 GBP inc landed in UK
400/4 Downpipes Yamiya 52000 Yen converts to 52/165 x 1338 = 421 GBP
400/4 Silencer Yamiya 28000 Yen convert to 28/165 x 1338 = 227 GBP
Downpipes & silencer = 648 GBP
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Lol - agree about bikepusher (or however you like to dub him)
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Well sod that, when are they going to do a system for the 500-4?
Don't forget it was only a few weeks ago I asked Yamiya if they indented doing the 400/4 ones and they said no. Bet they have access to the supplier who last sold genuine 500/4 pipes to Honda.
BTW the guy who cleared out 'Queenies' said he found a no.no. original 750 pipe tucked under a radiator. That place must have been an amazing place. Only ever saw the sales counter...friendly bunch though, as I remember.
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Well nobody's chipped in with a landed price to the UK inc. VAT
So here is the simplistic Ashimoto estimate.
If they do end up being decent quality inc double skinned headers then eat your heart out the likes of bikepusher on eBay with their 'Worth 1500GBP 'all day long' asking prices for NOS systems.
750K0 No.No. Yamiya exhausts 165000 Yen= 1338 GBP inc landed in UK
400/4 Downpipes Yamiya 52000 Yen converts to 52/165 x 1338 = 421 GBP
400/4 Silencer Yamiya 28000 Yen convert to 28/165 x 1338 = 227 GBP
Downpipes & silencer = 648 GBP
Well done on the maths Ash, hopefully you wont be too far off. I have asked Yamiya for a quote this morning, including clamps.
One thing to factor in is the shipping method from Japan. If there is enough interest and people are prepared to wait I can book a part container load by sea. This usually works out 1/3 to 1/2 the price of air freight. Anyone who is seriously interested please PM me as soon as possible.
BTW I still have one CB750K0 set remaining if anyone is interested, it is unlikely i will be ordering more for a while.
Dave
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It was only a simplistic calculation David. I am sure whatever price you come up with, you will giving us the best deal anyway, particularly over your namesake :D
Can you ask Yamiya if the headers are double-skinned please and also if they have any plans for CB500F pipes ( I believe originally HM323, as some members need them).
Keep up the good work and I hope everyone here is going to support you !
Ash
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If I'm not mistaken the market price can be determined here:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18221/lot/84/
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If I'm not mistaken the market price can be determined here:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18221/lot/84/
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That was a bargain for sure ;)
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If I'm not mistaken the market price can be determined here:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18221/lot/84/
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I have the quote back from Yamiya. For the headers and silencer only by air from Japan (3-4 days), I can do £675 + VAT (£810 inc VAT). Some saving can be made by placing a shipping order, but i need to know how many genuine buyers there are before i can determine if this is worthwhile or not. I will come back shortly on the double skinned question.
Dave
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If I'm not mistaken the market price can be determined here:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/18221/lot/84/
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To be fair that was 5 years ago Tom...still a bargain
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Nothing gets past you James ;)
Dave I am interested in a silencer at least; if the headers are double skinned then possibly them too.
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Nothing gets past you James ;)
Dave I am interested in a silencer at least; if the headers are double skinned then possibly them too.
OK Tom I will keep you posted. Thanks Dave
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Betcha they turn out to be double-skinned like the 750 no.no. ones. Those crafty b@ggers at Yamiya obviously can source from the original manufacturers. Like the wrinkle tanks that supposedly have the same wrinkle patterns as OEM. Not so good news for Ian at Motad though, if they are double skinned. He's put a lot of effort into their repro 400/4 system and a nice bloke to deal with.
Wonder why Yamiya told me they had no plans to reproduce, no so long back (pipes I mean) :D
They are now selling original style 400/4 sprockets too ... bikepusher is gonna have to find a new money making scheme :D
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=179_274_193_225&products_id=3133&language=en
APRIL THIS YEAR ON FACEBOOK !
Ashley Derrick Great to see you are now selling CB400F parts. Will the original Sankei front exhaust pipes ever be re-manufactured please? Kind regards .. Ash (UK)
Like · Reply · 5 April at 19:49
Motorcycle Yamiya 闇矢屋 Ashley Derrick Sorry for our late reply. We're afraid we don't have a plan to re-manufacture the original Sankei front exhaust so far. However, we will have more and more spare parts for CB400F.
Like · Reply · 18 April at 03:22
Ash
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I have confirmation that the headers are single skinned.
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Has anyone tried or looked at these?
http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB400F-SUPER-SPORT-FOUR/part_133899/
They are more like the OEM system than the Motad version that DSS used to stock, with two pipes welded to the collector.
Don't know what the quality is like, but downpipes and collector assembly comes in at £275 excluding delivery.
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I have confirmation that the headers are single skinned.
Yes Mr Yamiya has stated this on the website now.
shame but still a nice system.. side welds look a bit ripply though
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Has nobody contacted David at Saisei - he was cheaper on Yamiya KO pipes when I was going to buy a set for my K2 earlier this year as he was gong to import a batch and postage was a lot cheaper (CMSL started producing K2 pipes so didn't end up buying them)
Phil
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Has nobody contacted David at Saisei - he was cheaper on Yamiya KO pipes when I was going to buy a set for my K2 earlier this year as he was gong to import a batch and postage was a lot cheaper (CMSL started producing K2 pipes so didn't end up buying them)
Phil
See above Phil http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,8467.msg56884.html#msg56884
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Nothing gets past you James ;)
Dave I am interested in a silencer at least; if the headers are double skinned then possibly them too.
Tom, I can fly the silencers in for £250 inc VAT. Back order date from Yamiya is end of next month though.
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Oops - posted my comment via Tapatalk halfway through the thread!
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Nothing gets past you James ;)
Dave I am interested in a silencer at least; if the headers are double skinned then possibly them too.
Tom, I can fly the silencers in for £250 inc VAT. Back order date from Yamiya is end of next month though.
You've not been inundated with orders then :o
If you have the occasional boat there's no hurry. How do you get the rest of your stock?
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Folks,
I have found another source for the headers. Indications are these are the same as the Yamiya ones except initial calculations indicate that i will be able to offer these at £310. With the silencer priced at £250, a complete set would be £560. I think this is an excellent price even for single headers.
Any takers? I don't think the headers will remain at this price for long.
Dave
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Dave
I'm in for a silencer for sure. Headers I will leave in favour of rechroming my originals but yes, it's a good deal.
Thanks
Tom
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Dave,
I would be interested in headers+silencer at that price. :)
cheers, Kenny.
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Orders place for 3 silencers and 2 sets of headers
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The note under pictures says "single skinned"
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The note under pictures says "single skinned"
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Yes they added that after David and me asked the question Rich. Real shame that
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Silencer and Headers now in stock ... Only one of each.
http://www.saisei-europe.com/Shop/Products/c/exhaust/p/new-cb400f-silencer
http://www.saisei-europe.com/tabid/125/p/new-aftermarket-direct-replacement-exhaust-headercollector-set/Default.aspx
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After telling me they had no plans to reproduce orginal pipes on Facebook recently.
Now look :o
DOWNPIPES
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=179_274_195_231&products_id=3140&language=en
SILENCER
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=179_274_195_231&products_id=3138
If they are anything like the 750 no. no. pipes going to be high quality I reckon.
Send DSS a message via FB to see if he is stocking them .
The silencers pictured on the Yamiya website are made by Brituro in the UK (can tell by the stamping on the inlet). Not sure if they are offering "UK made silencers" and making cheap reproductions. We don't sell directly to Yamiya so not sure where they would be getting our silencers from. Just be careful what you are expecting from them, as i'm quite confident they won't be the silencers in the picture.
Joe - Brituro
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I think David at Saisei ordered the 400/4 silencer from Yamiya and found out they were made by yourselves when they arrived.
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I think David at Saisei ordered the 400/4 silencer from Yamiya and found out they were made by yourselves when they arrived.
I don't know where Yamiya would be buying our silencers from, and why they would be paying to have our silencers shipped over to Japan, just to be dispatched to customers here in England?
Has anyone purchased silencers from Yamiya? If so, can you confirm whether they are made by Brituro? There would be a stamp on the inlet of the silencer with our name on.
Joe - Brituro
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Pretty Sure David at Saisei has bought your silencer via Yamiya and they were stamped 'Britura' .. he will reply I am sure.