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CB500/550 / Re: Front axle CB550 F1 1976
« on: September 19, 2024, 02:54:56 PM »
Is there any danger of front axle rotation if you grease then when fitting as opposed to just greasing the ends afterwards?

It has no rotational load to give risk in the design of it .... unless a wheel bearing were to seize.

The bearing centre races are clamped with tightening the axle assembly, then the axle is held from rotation by the double bolted clamps at base of fork legs.

It's designed to avoid anything significant in torque being applied to axle. No risk from greasing it in that instance.

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CB500/550 / Re: Front axle CB550 F1 1976
« on: September 19, 2024, 01:53:24 PM »
Something similar https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296162093007 from Morris lubricants.


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CB500/550 / Re: Front axle CB550 F1 1976
« on: September 19, 2024, 01:25:49 PM »
I've routinely used "Duckhams Keenol" grease on this type of non movement fixings.

With zinc oxide, I belive, as significant component to act as sacrificial element in "taking" the corrosion and preventing deterioration of primary metals.

Don't think that's any longer available (bought two NOS tubs from an auto jumbler to keep my supply up) but newer products in "boat greases " are aimed at similar protection,  specifically to mitigate electrolitically derived effects with salty solutions etc.

Exposed socket head fixings too, I've routinely "winterised " on vehicles by squiging it into recesses.

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CB750 / Re: No Power to Ignition
« on: September 16, 2024, 01:52:28 PM »
A consideration,  worthwhile spaying in there ( back on ignition switch after pulling back the covering) as it'll avoid moisture ingress along with unintended failure.

Not listed, I think, in maintenance scheme ,but often they are affected if used in weather  :)

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CB750 / Re: No Power to Ignition
« on: September 16, 2024, 01:47:23 PM »
 ;D

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CB750 / Re: No Power to Ignition
« on: September 16, 2024, 01:31:40 PM »
Ted's route to looking at ignition switch is good, and likely to at least see where the missing volts all leak out  :)

The ignition rotary switches on these as prime suspect can have that trait, just stopping with no prior warning.

The contacts on the wires going into the ignition key mech are on a plate that pushes up inside rear of barrel construction, then to locate with little "tangs" that hold the plate from coming back out.

The contact is made by the key rotation of another internal plate with little copper bridges to connect the wire terminals in correct sequence to power the circuits.

If the bridges or contact corrode,  then power is not transmitted to where it should go. There's little steel coil springs pushing the bridges into competent contact too, if these rust then there's no pressure to hold them in secure contact.

If the volts go in there and don't come out again, spray some de moisturiser (wd40 or similar)in the back and rotate the key a few times. It may help it pickup the action without dismantling being required.

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CB350/400 / Re: Front Brake rotor
« on: September 16, 2024, 09:54:32 AM »
Constituency seems to encompass copper and iron in "metallic" description pads.

For a rough and ready guide of heat, I find they need to be well into "wet your fingers and touch" making a good healthy sizzle to get anything close to purging anything used to clean them.

If you can smell the pad material, then you're probably there or thereabouts  :)


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CB350/400 / Re: Front Brake rotor
« on: September 15, 2024, 02:12:24 PM »
Being naturally curious, today I removed the Versah pads, cleaned the rotor with brake cleaner, installed organic (DSS) pads and went out did the same break-in.   I don't know if this would apply to any organic pad/this rotor or not but the result was that a good brake with the Versah pads became an unsatisfactory brake with the organic pads - less initial bite and a lot more pressure required to get less stopping power/much greater stopping distance.  Totally unacceptable.

Tomorrow I'm going to do the drill again, this time with new Brembo ceramic pads.  If they aren't at least as good as the Versah pads, I'll reinstall the Versahs and bed them in (again).

Definitely interesting to hear your experience with straight comparison of materials Mike.

From trying many brake pads in different vehicles and use profiles over the years, I'd agree with your observations of these two so far. Quite different in character aren't they!

Ceramic pads, I feel are generally consistent often without a potent initial bite, linear build up of braking effect with  increasing line pressure, may need more absolute mastercylinder pressure to capitalise on the far reaches of friction.

Emphasise (think I noted before) that it takes longer than many think to clear disc cleaning effect and develop fully the pad's ultimate potential.  Much heating often needed through harsh applications  :)

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CB350/400 / Re: Need larger main jet?
« on: September 11, 2024, 09:02:39 AM »
Our valued sohc member K2-K6 uses what I perceive as an unusual Syntax style in his posts.
They are authoritative presenting replies that are always interesting as well evidenced and thorough.
At the risk of sounding critical I have often wondered if English is his first language, mine wasn't as I lived in Austria during my early childhood moving to the UK permanently when I was 5 years of age.
This post is intended to be complementary not in any way a criticism. It might be that K2-K6 is a University  Mechanical Engineering Don who loves old Honda's.

Thank you Ted, fine qualification above the realty I feel  :)

Definitely English in origin, South East Berkshire and so a true "southerner" in birth and growing up. Comprehensive school educated then to MOD research and development apprenticeship in toolmaking as primary industrial learning.
Native English speaking , but can reasonably massacre French language to some, often amusing, effect  ;D
Realising through workplace promotion into more senior roles that my written skills were very unpracticed, naive and grammatically poor, to set about changing that aspect to a level of decent competence in professional output.

Working extensively in deep technical arena, realising that so many aspect are distorted in understanding and acceptance of the reality, ultimately to define promote and control workplace practices in technical performance to make those operations succeed. Understanding what should happen,  writing manuals and working instructions to support that element gives, possibly, a different slant to synrax etc. Interesting observation of yours certainly.

Always reading non fiction, intrigued by exceptional editorial styles and try to learn from those trained and practiced in adventurous language structure.

A phrase from apprenticeship sticks in my mind, we were school informed and trained within first tier R&D facility, with extensive input from thinking of air accident investigation bureau based on site, the methodology, thinking structure and practice all infused in engineering principles taught throughout.

That phrase "if you can't find fault, then you're not looking close enough" still rings loud. Oh, and another one "assumption is the mother of all fcuk up" still have the same potency in analysis of what should be happening in front of you.

I had the good fortune of being immersed amongst very clever people in that period, they held some extraordinary knowledge amongst them. Now tevh my children to listen carefully when there's opportunity to get such important information from scource like that.

Also think there's some very knowledgeable members of this forum, such diverse views available too.

Odd to write about my outlook  :)

On that personal note, I feel the forum misses Ken as contributor, felt he was unnecessarily pushed into a situation that wasn't very nice for him, understand his ultimate decisions on a personal basis, it certainly wasn't very kind to him.
I was fine with holding an opposed view to Ken, debate often bringing up a bigger view of topic, we had some good threads about bikes and engineering.

Probably the wrong place within this thread, but feel his contribution was important for forum.

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CB350/400 / Re: Need larger main jet?
« on: September 09, 2024, 12:21:03 PM »
I am not advocating this as an answer Mike - if you are running the standard air cleaner system there are adjustments that you could make with the needle rather than changing any jets - raising all four  needles on the sliders would richen the mixture at any given throttle opening. (i.e.one groove lower than the mid point effectively raising the needle in the jet)

There must be a reason why they put five grooves in the needle - might be for those living at high or low altitudes.

Its indolvable Ted as its not the jetting doing this.

Its too high a ratio for the torque available to pull, but if you sent it downhill in that gear (removing some resistance effectively) then it would carry on rising in revs.

Raising the needles will just make it rich for all of the general running scenarios other than this one. It's set correctly as it is.

Needle adjustment is there for scenarios you described though, primarily altitude. It would also be unacceptable to produce a carburettor with no adjustment too, then expect a long service life out of it. It just must have some level of compensation built in to cover reasonable eventuality in its usage.


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CB350/400 / Re: Need larger main jet?
« on: September 09, 2024, 12:10:44 PM »
Thanks!  Good info!  Maybe I'll hop back on my 900 Kawasaki to go up that hill! ;)

As the American saying goes "there ain't no substitute for cubes" as a certain amount of torque will only be able to overcome a set amount of resistance.

You're just seeing the finite tail out of tge 400 here in this example, the 900 and anything else will do it too, just at much higher velocity.

Also a characteristic of slide type carbs, in that if the torque available can't pull it of of the "hole" then further opening of the slide ultimately decreases vacuum in the carb throat, such that they would be forced lean under these circumstances.
 
The engine rpm " following" the slide up, think big torque motors, is keeping that equation in check. As soon as that breaks down and the engine cannot keep adding torque, then the "gap" between the two gets progressively wider, dropping the absolute vacuum as the hole is bigger in the venturi but air speed through it is not increasing, in reality air speed there drops under this scenario. Bernouli principle I believe .... http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pber.html  :)

CV  carbs seek to avoid this, their biggest attribute in this circumstances as properly designed they should keep the vacuum level to match the intake "suck" the engine is presenting to them.

When an engine is run on a dyno too, they don’t use a "terminal" gearing ratio generally, for example 3rd gear often engaged for a recorded pull as it then shows in graph terms the whole power curve, up to peak output and then on past that to observe the decay of dynamics as it goes over peak efficiency and starts to drop again.

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CB350/400 / Re: Need larger main jet?
« on: September 09, 2024, 11:46:44 AM »
" Max. speed testing years ago involved involved such things as unbelievably high tyre pressures, rear chain de-greased and given a light dose of 3 in 1 oil, the rider wearing tight leathers and laying flat on the tank, feet on rear footrests, left hand holding top of left fork leg, and peering between the clocks."


I guess this would do it...https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Rollie-Free-Vincent-Black-Lightning.jpg

Theres a book about the man in the photo "Rollie" in going into that speed attempt .... review here https://thevintagent.com/2017/09/02/flat-out-the-rollie-free-story/ that seems an interesting read.

My parents were personal friends with Vincent head of engineering and his wife when the bikes were contemporary, with many stories around them and racing them too.

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CB350/400 / Re: Need larger main jet?
« on: September 09, 2024, 08:24:40 AM »
When at WOT accelerating up a long, straight, slightly uphill road in 6th gear, the RPM will max out/hold at around 7500 RPM. Reducing the throttle position slightly does not reduce the speed.  That indicates to me that it could use a bit more fuel under those conditions.   Or is my thinking in error? 

If not in error, what is the next jet size up from the standard 75 and are they available anywhere?

I'd agree with that view  :)

A delicate balance on these as they dont produce the torque in sufficient quantity to pull that sixth to get themselves accelerating at that point and given any sort of gradient to climb.

As Julie notes, you definitely have to favour revs to make use of it properly.

Increased main jet is not suitable as it'll skew all of the running to its detriment and increase oil dilution ultimately from expelling the excess unburnt past piston rings.

Concisely, when it can't exert enough torque to further accelerate against that higher ratio gear, then opening the throttle does make it go leaner as venturi negative pressure /vacuum drops away with slide open further and no increase in engine speed to keep adding volume (a function of swept volume at x rpm) which reduces the amount of fuel pulled from main jet. It's not the size of jet but the total vacuum in play here.
Ultimately , if driven like that for substantial period, it will detonate from being lean and start to damage the piston crowns.

There's no way round it really, it just doesn't make the torque to pull that ratio. Increase in capacity is the answer  ;D

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CB350/400 / Re: Front Brake rotor
« on: September 07, 2024, 03:20:54 PM »
interesting outcome and good comparison.

I find, on all type of material for both pads and disc, that using brake cleaner on the friction surfaces takes longer than you'd think to dissipate. They really don't show their best until properly burnt in and up to full potential.

Certainly worthy of more time in running them, also sticking as much heat into it as practically possible to make sure they "clean" up before a full judgment.

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CB350/400 / Re: DOH! Ignition point system memory failure
« on: September 07, 2024, 03:16:45 PM »
Without knowing the spec of E system triggering characteristic it may potentially be hiding something of influence.

Specifically,  the dwell characteristic may be different.  The points using 5 k ohm coil resistance and fairly long dwell to accommodate high rpm drop off (same angular movements, but as rpm increaese then dwell drops away in time that the coil "sees" ) so you get good saturation at lower range with longer dwell tbat may influence the outcome.

The E systems often make use of constant dwell, irrespective of engine speed. This may often be paired with lower coil resistance as it's not needed to mitigate for changes in this dwell time.

The E may possibly need a 3 k ohm coil set to fully utilise and saturate them through from low to mid rpm range. Could account for change in starting too.

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