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Title: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 04, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
Hi there!

I was looking fowards to receive the letter from The DVLA with my v5 as I sent the form and all the paperwork required last week, for my surprise I got a letter today from the DVLA I was all excited until I started reading that my application has been rejected as the manufacturing letter does not provide the right  information...

I'm heart broken

Can anyone help? What am I missing?


Noelia


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: flatfour on March 05, 2016, 09:44:04 AM
Noelia, I would telephone John Wyatt and ask his advice. I have known him for many years and always found him helpful and he must have processed hundreds of these over the years.
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Chris400F on March 05, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
About a year ago I went through the process of getting vehicle information corrected and an age-related plate issued; I think the requirements for dating evidence are the same. At the time I was told the following by DVLA when I was trying to find out what information was needed:

Acceptable dating evidence can be obtained from:
 
• An extract from the manufacturer/factory record - these will have the chassis number of the vehicle against the month and year of production*
• An extract from the 'Glasses guide'- which is a comprehensive guide on production dates and includes chassis numbers
• If the vehicle has been imported and already registered, the original foreign registration certificate.

*A certified copy of the factory record (with the embedded stamp) will be acceptable only from the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust (BMIHT)

I know the VJMC are authorised to provide dating evidence (been there, done that) or a dating letter may be available from the manufacturer (needs to be a UK bike for Hondas and even then they don't always seem to be able to come up with the goods). Maybe the requirements have been tightened up but on the face of it a letter from six years ago from someone who says he is authorised by the VJMC doesn't seem to fit the bill.


Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: royhall on March 05, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
Your letter from DVLA states exactly the information they require, and non of it is on the Rising Sun document. You need to approach either Honda themselves or a reputable club like the VMCC or VJMC and get a real dating document.
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Menno on March 05, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
I did that quite a few times here with Honda Germany. In Germany you can get any bike on the road again due to the strange ways licence plates are issued.
I even managed to get a funny 50cc bike on registration which was never sold outside of Japan.
Anyway, If you need an official paper stating that the Frame with this number is issued by Honda with the year it was produced I can get it here.
They don't even need to see the bike.

However, it is not cheap. like 150 euro or so. It used to be 33 euro but than, well they raised it.
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Chris400F on March 05, 2016, 06:20:42 PM
VJMC cost is only £35
http://www.vjmc.com/classic-motorcycle-dating-service-a.html
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 05, 2016, 08:35:26 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for the replies I have emailed John Wyatt explaining the situation to see if he can amend the certificate. Hopefully he may be able to Re-issue it with the right information? I will also contact VJMC to be safe and whatever is the quicker I will do I was hoping to ride my bike on the Easter holiday!!

I keep you all posted! Hopefully good news!

Thanks!!


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 05, 2016, 08:42:17 PM
I forgot to mention that I still have the old registration number from the USA would that make any difference?


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: RGP750 on March 06, 2016, 07:13:11 AM
I have just put an application in and i used North Leicestershire Motorcycles
To verify the  age.
The certificate they issued had the info on it DVLA asked for so hopefully my application will be ok.
I will let you know as soon as i get it back if it was acceptable.
good luck.
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 06, 2016, 11:16:14 AM

I have just put an application in and i used North Leicestershire Motorcycles
To verify the  age.
The certificate they issued had the info on it DVLA asked for so hopefully my application will be ok.
I will let you know as soon as i get it back if it was acceptable.
good luck.

I just emailed Stuart and asked him,
What did you need to provide them with?
How long did it take you?

Thank you!


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Bryanj on March 07, 2016, 06:18:56 AM
Usa registration number on its own is no good, you need the US "Title" document
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 07, 2016, 10:04:27 AM
Got a reply from John Wyatt 

Not good!!

Hi. Sorry stopped doing dating letters in 2014. The vjmc are the only ones doing them now. Cheers John Wyatt



Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: royhall on March 07, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
Go directly to Honda, they are always accepted. Costs £25, if my memory is correct.

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Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: fryerk on March 07, 2016, 10:26:52 AM
Hi Noella

Just registered my 500 K2 with a VJMC dating letter - no issues at all and they turned it around in little over a week.

Kevin
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Chris400F on March 07, 2016, 10:41:29 AM
Go directly to Honda, they are always accepted. Costs £25, if my memory is correct.
Honda UK will only issue letters for UK supplied bikes.
I'd go down the VJMC route - I too know that one works.
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 07, 2016, 12:27:10 PM

Hi Noella

Just registered my 500 K2 with a VJMC dating letter - no issues at all and they turned it around in little over a week.

Kevin

Hi kevin,

What infirmation/paperwork did you provide to them?

Regards


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: Noelia on March 07, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
Hi all I spoke with someone from the VJMC and and I will be sending the form tomorrow, the bad news is that it will take like a couple of weeks... Plus DVLA... Easter ride it's not going to happen!

Thank you all for your advice and support!


Noelia
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: fryerk on March 07, 2016, 05:43:50 PM
Hi Noella

VJMC dating certificate, proof of Nova registration email and the completed form along with mot and insurance. I did send pictures of the bike showing the frame and engine numbers ( not necessary but recommended by the VJMC)

Kevin
Title: Re: Registration rejected from DVLA
Post by: MrDavo on March 07, 2016, 07:23:48 PM
What Kevin said, but I didn't have any documentation for the NOVA, just the number. They did miss it the first time (despite me putting a fecking great ring around the number with a red felt tip) and sent the forms back anyway, though. I rang the HMRC number they provided me with who advised me, on checking the number  that:

(a) The duty on the bike was 'secured', ie paid up.
(b) DVLA were a bit thick.
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