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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 18, 2020, 01:03:27 PM »
Small update:

Bike runs fine from cold, for about 2-3 minutes. Then, once warmed up, the erratic idle starts showing. I have (abundantly) sprayed carb cleaner on intake manifolds with no change at all, so for now I tend to exclude an air leak as I could not find any evidence of it (and both rubber intakes and manifold o-rings are new).
I keep on thinking it could be something in the timing (or rather advance mechanism springs, maybe kicking in too soon) and/or unbalanced carbs (only bench synced visually, with a drill bit).

Maybe I'll start playing with the spring combination again, after all I am keeping the original ones as they are and just adding different ones, so anything I do can be undone quite easily.

Cheers


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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 15, 2020, 05:21:01 PM »
PD46, just about guarantee the pilot jets or pathways are blocked
Yes, I've known about the pitfalls of PD46s for a while now....but these have been gone through/into/over so many times that I feel confident they should be fine. Of course I could be wrong so if I find myself at a dead-end I will start from the carbs over again.
I will triple-check for air-leaks as soon as I have the chance :)
cheers guys, much appreciated!

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 08:38:44 PM »
Michele, a long shot, but is the petcock gauze clear. I had erratic fuel flow and cleaned it in vinegar and very gentle brush with an old toothbrush. Then a column of water from a tap would pass freely through it uninterrupted.

I find even when all clean, fuel often only manages to flow through one pipe at a time, so eg from empty, carbs 1&2 and 3&4 don’t both get full flow at the same time, and maybe a slight restriction could cause flow to fluctuate.

As I say very much a long shot, but quick and easy to check, and always good to know it’s ok.

Hi Jeremy, that has been one of the many things I have tried in the past. I have a new petcock filter (the one inside the tank), but I must admit I have not opened the petcock as it's not one of those that can be opened via a couple of screws. Petrol flow seems fine and constant though (I have observed while filling a bottle straight from the petcock) and I have a new fuel line, with no kinks and no inline filter.
I have therefore eliminated this as a possible source of my problems.
Cheers
Michele

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 08:31:32 PM »

It'll be interesting to see if there's any improvements by changing the plugs,  but think there's potential circumstances under which that would indicate another error.

Well, there's only one way to find out 😁
Still, it would make sense to have the "correct" resistance all along the line. Some time ago I checked all my coils and leads and changed the caps as a consequence as they seemed to offer too much resistance (and they gave 4 different readings). Did I notice a change? Not really, but I think the problems I have been having are a sum of little "off" things, so I am trying to chip at them all, one by one. It's a process of elimination.
Once I get the timing sorted with a strobe light and the carbs synced I'll see if the idling gets consistent. If not, I'll keep poking around...

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 03:29:19 PM »

Remove the resisted plugs and fit non resisted (D7ES or D7EA) . You only need resisted plugs fitted if you have non resisted plug caps fitted. Too much resistance weakens the spark. I don't think it will solve your problems but having both plugs and caps fitted with resistors won't help.
The DR7ES were the standard fit with the metal, non resistor caps, which were changed at PDI usually (well, thrown in the bin as I understand it).

A-ha! that is useful info indeed, I had not realised. Well it may not solve this problem, but it can't hurt and it is more correct. In fact from older pics I can see my bike came with D7EA, so I must have bought DR7ES just reading old specs around.
Thank you Nurse Julie!!

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 02:11:31 PM »
What spark plugs are you using?

Just plain NGK DR7ES they are fairly new, maybe have 30 miles on them. I cleaned them from carbon deposit because the mechanic I trusted to solve my troubles actually made it incredibly rich (4th groove on et needle!!) and as a consequence exhaust and plugs just got covered in black soot. BTW, I moved the needles back to the 2nd groove...
Not sure I have a new set of plugs to try if any difference now, would that be worth it?

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 01:25:39 PM »
Update of the day:
Just before thunderstorms hit (although it's still well sunny here) I decided to have a check at the timing.
-Points gaps were at 0.3mm and 0.35mm, so I made them both 0.3mm now.
-Static timing is spot-on for 1-4 and 2-3

I have tried using my strobe but the idling seems too unstable that I am not sure about anything, so I have not tried to adjust anything. I will try again just to see if I notice it being too far advanced at higher revs, but from first examination it does not look that way. It may be that it advances too soon though. I have tried in the past to use different spring combos in the advance mechanism but never really solved anything, so I reverted to the original setup (I was probably jumping the gun anyway).

Here's a video I shot today, just to give you an idea of what it sounds like when idling. Note that unless you see my hand on the throttle or idle screw, she's doing everything else by herself!

https://youtu.be/ESx_E8mv2vM

Carbs are standard PD46A with. standard jetting, This may not be ideal for the Delkevic 4 into 1 the PO put in, but it should not give problems when idling

As suggested above, I will try spraying carb cleaner on and around the inlet manifolds to check for air leaks there, but I have new manifods and o-rings so I doubt it will be that.

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 12:58:36 PM »
Are you positive you don’t have an air leak between carbs and head. That would also cause similar problems. Try spraying carb cleaner around the joints when running. I had exactly the same tickover issues with revs suddenly rising and fixed it with new inlet rubbers. I also used jubilee clips (thin stainless ones) as opposed to the old Honda clips as even the replacement ones I got (not  aftermarket ) from DSS were no sealing well.

From the sound of it this is more likely the problem

Thanks Paul, I have not really tried spraying carb cleaner because I have new inlet rubbers and new O-rings on the inlet manifolds, so I believe I have taken care of that possibility. I still use the old clips though, so I may as well give it a try. FYI, I will soon post a video of how erratically it idles today, just to give as much info as I can.

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 13, 2020, 12:54:29 PM »

To help in the interim,  it's sounds possible from your above observations that you may have a  cylinder not firing.  The points each run two cylinders so if either is a problem you get both from that supply stopping and it's even hard to pull away,  so doubt if it's that.

More likely it could be just one.  If you start it from cold and run for about 20 seconds,  switch off and then feel each of the exhaust pipes youll tell if you've a cold one ( that will feel more like the "something stuck in your throat" you describe) if that's the case then ordinarily you're looking at a fault of the HT part of the system from coil through plug cap to plug itself as initial suspect.

Anyway,  post how you get on and shout if you wish to have help.

Thanks K2-K6, all 4 are firing, I check by default every time I run the bike for 20 secs or so as I did have that problem in the past (but it was carb related).

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CB500/550 / Re: I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 12, 2020, 05:34:00 PM »
Thank you so much K2-K6!!!!
I'll see what I manage to do (or re-do) in the next couple of weeks and then get back to you on this. It would be great to have an expert check what I am doing :)
Cheers
Michele

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CB500/550 / I need a carb sync - Anyone in North London?
« on: August 11, 2020, 12:41:45 PM »
Hi guys,
I've been chasing gremlins (and possibly ghosts) on my 1977 CB550K3 ever since I got it 20 months ago. Done very little riding (almost none), lots of tinkering, got burnt by a mechanic that did some things right and some other he messed up completely, I cleaned the carbs several times, changed spark plugs and caps, air filter, manifold o-rings, new condensers.....basically everything I could think of that could cause my problems.

Aaaanyway, with 30 years of Vespa riding, I am a novice when it comes to Hondas. I have a great passion for mechanics and I believe I have done all I should have done so far (mostly a 3k tune-up) to a decent level, BUT, I have nobody to be able to check that for me, so I may be chasing my tail forever.
The bike starts fine, just a little choke, and idles ok, but as soon as it warms up (2 mins or less) the idle fluctuates, with no input from me, between 1000 and up to 3000 rpms. This is a great improvement to what it was as it used to shoot up to 5k and would hang in between gear shifts, which made it unridable.

The battery is fully charged....but then again, I am not riding this often at all and have recharged several times, so it may well be the battery itself giving me problems, but I need to eliminate other things before I think about replacing that.

The last 2 things I "believe" I need at this point are
-Timing set with strobe light (I have done the static, but assuming the advance mech. springs may be a bit weak only the strobe lamp will shed true light on this (sorry, this is a terrible "dad" joke....my kids would be ashamed)
- Carb sync: I have the necessary gauge tool and I have watched several videos on how to, however I have never done before and I don't have a proper space to do it (without annoying a few neighbours...)

My question to the audience:
Anyone in North London area (I am in N5) who could help me with these last 2 tasks? I have an old strobe light and the gauges set for the sync, but never really used them before and I would appreciate an expert and watchful eye from a more experienced member.
I tend not to trust my bike too much (it's probably all in my mind) and I am weary of getting stuck on the side of the road, but there are worst things in life and I will of course travel 10-20 miles to reach you.
I will also wear a facemask and keep social distancing, needless to say.

Anyone available around here?
Alternatively, anyone knows a good mechanic around here who would do it (and knows how to) without skinning me alive?

Cheers
Michele

[Edit]
Went for a short ride today (4 miles, city roads) and I have a feeling the bike is not as sharp as it should be, it feels it can't get all the power out (and I am just opening the throttle in 1st, 2nd or 3rd) a bit like when you have something stuck in your throat and your voice's not clear.
So, re-checking points gaps and timing (will try using my strobe light) will be my priority this week.
Any other suggestions are welcome, as I said, I have no real term of reference in my experience....

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CB500/550 / Re: CB550K3 Air scoop & Lower handle bar clutch casting
« on: July 08, 2020, 11:54:23 AM »
Correct, the  550 K3 (and K4, I believe) have a sideway snorkel (n. 9 in this picture)

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while the tool tray is actually a compartment with a flap under the seat, or rather "in" the seat (n. 4 in this image)

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Have a rummage around this site, you may find what you need (disclaimer: I have never bought from them - yet - so I cannot give any guarantee...)

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb550-four-cb550k3-1977-usa_model1015/partslist/F++16.html#.XwWlepNKjlw

Cheers
Michele

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CB500/550 / Re: Rear indicators: grab rail or brackets?
« on: January 31, 2020, 10:55:52 AM »
Thank you guys, but my grab rail has no mountings for the indicators (they must have snapped off as 2 holes are there, you can see them in one of the pictures I have posted.
I'll see if I can find any kind of clamp that may do the job. Something like this may work
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07L4RM9DS/?coliid=I16V898LLHPKQ7&colid=1NS5EFPD8B8IA&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
but may not be pretty.....

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CB500/550 / Re: PD carbs
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:01:37 PM »
Hi all

I spoke with the guy, he wasn't sure exactly what they were but he sold them last weekend at a bike fair.

Dave

thank you for trying, David.
Cheers

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CB500/550 / Re: PD carbs
« on: January 30, 2020, 01:20:16 PM »
Hi ..Not sure I was looking for 500K0/K/K2  627B  carbs myself, which is why the guy brought them for me to look at but they were deffo stamped PD on the side. I did put David onto them (see baove)  so you need to ask him if he has contacted the guy at all.

Thank you Ash, I have just sent Dave a PM

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