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Title: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 05, 2024, 01:21:09 PM
Spring cleaning like many others!

For Sale:
400/4 fuel tank, tap, cap and genuine side panels (no grommets) Tank is good inside, tiny mark on left side top and v small chip where you accidentally bump it against the headstock when fitting.  Tank and panels were painted almost 20 years ago in Ford Metallic black with gold lines and big H wings. Not been welded but many small dings filled prior to paint.  Side panel badges have bubbles under but lacquer not split.

£180 (won't split) plus post at cost.

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Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 05, 2024, 04:32:07 PM
Could be interested Ian, if it will fit a 550f frame - tank that is!
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 05, 2024, 05:16:04 PM
Hi Johnny,
Not sure if it would fit, the 550 has quite a bridge in the middle - someone on here might know but you are welcome to try!

Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 06, 2024, 08:04:40 AM
Ian, just reading a bit about it and thinking that I’d probably be better sourcing a 550 tank. So if there’s someone else on here that might be interested rather than wasting time so you can hopefully move them on. Thanks.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 06, 2024, 09:47:27 AM
Hi Johnny,
I have the original tank from my orange 550 - it would need a repair on the left side (pin holes) Frankie Bain might let a piece in for you.  It's free for the taking - yippee, even more space in the shed!

Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 06, 2024, 10:41:52 AM
That sounds like a possibility Ian, FB is the man! I’ll hopefully be out west soon on a mission.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 06, 2024, 10:59:18 AM
Anytime Johnny,
Ring first just in case.  We will hopefully be out Saturday after lunch into the great metropolis, so I could drop it off, unless you are out this way meantime.

Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 06, 2024, 07:11:24 PM
Still for sale:
This is what it looked like with them on - perhaps not for the purists?

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Ian

Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Moorey on February 07, 2024, 09:01:14 AM


    It makes it look quite GB500TT ish.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 07, 2024, 10:05:24 AM
Never mind the purists Ian they look very nice on your 400. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 07, 2024, 10:25:49 AM
Who said GB500TT??

This was my GB400TT in the same colour scheme, which prompted me to do a kit for the 400/4

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Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 07, 2024, 10:56:00 AM
I agree, quite like the colour scheme reminds me of my smoking days JPS!
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 07, 2024, 12:35:55 PM
There used to be a Lotus Twin Cam Europa Special in BoT circa 1972/3 in those JPS colours it really suited the odd rear end shape.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Moorey on February 07, 2024, 12:42:16 PM
Who said GB500TT??

This was my GB400TT in the same colour scheme, which prompted me to do a kit for the 400/4

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Ian




   I quite fancied one for a long time but they rarely came up for sale.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 07, 2024, 12:56:41 PM
Ted, that's a lovely looking Europa - FAT Hull reg too!  Don't remember the car though - wonder if Ash does? 
I sold mine Moorey to a chap in our Jag and VJMC clubs - he still has it too.  I then got a GB500TT in that Burgundy colour.  I still think the 400 was better than the 500.  With the kickstart operated decompression system, my party trick was starting the 500 by hand on the kickstart - try doing that with a 500 Goldie!

Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Laverda Dave on February 07, 2024, 01:02:52 PM
They were lovely cars and especially in that colour scheme. I remember them being nicknamed 'The flying Milk Float' as a result of the long, flat rear engine cover.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: andy120t on February 07, 2024, 03:31:29 PM
There used to be a Lotus Twin Cam Europa Special in BoT circa 1972/3 in those JPS colours it really suited the odd rear end shape.
I still have e a toy Europa but it's blue...I think it says 'from the TV series The Man from Uncle' underneath.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: AshimotoK0 on February 08, 2024, 04:35:44 PM
Ted, that's a lovely looking Europa - FAT Hull reg too!  Don't remember the car though - wonder if Ash does? 
I sold mine Moorey to a chap in our Jag and VJMC clubs - he still has it too.  I then got a GB500TT in that Burgundy colour.  I still think the 400 was better than the 500.  With the kickstart operated decompression system, my party trick was starting the 500 by hand on the kickstart - try doing that with a 500 Goldie!

Ian

No I don't remember it in Hull Ian. My friend in Hull is just restoring a 60's  Elan Roadster. He got the body painted by SMS in Spalding last year..... ££££££. The car he bought in late 1970's from Ced Francis. Do you remember that dealer Ian? Cost him a few hundred quid when he bought it.

Interested about your comments on the de-compressor fitted to kick-start mechanism. My newly acquired CB250RSA has that arrangement. Does that mean it will be easy to start too? LaverdaDave will know.

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Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on February 08, 2024, 05:00:08 PM
Tha guy that services our cars has one of those sitting awaiting restoration in his garage. The roof line is so low to the ground. He is well over 6ft but says once in, its fine.

Always liked them. The early ones had a Renault 16 engine i recall didn't they?
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: AshimotoK0 on February 08, 2024, 05:09:14 PM
Tha guy that services our cars has one of those sitting awaiting restoration in his garage. The roof line is so low to the ground. He is well over 6ft but says once in, its fine.

Always liked them. The early ones had a Renault 16 engine i recall didn't they?

Do you mean the Europa or Elan Tim? The Elan had a Ford twin-cam I think (like the Cortina had ).
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on February 08, 2024, 05:13:32 PM
Sorry Europa, hadn't realise the thread had moved on. 😜
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 08, 2024, 05:34:15 PM
Sorry Europa, hadn't realise the thread had moved on. 😜

I drove a Renault Engined Europa back in the 1970's when I was in the trade it was surprisingly quick and handled as they used to say - like it was on rails.  Sold in less than a week - it was as noisy as hell in the back so it felt fast at 40 mph.
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Orcade-Ian on February 08, 2024, 05:55:54 PM
Ash,
The GB (400 and 500) were really easy to start - no fumbling around finding compression like on a Brit single, just give it a good prod and away it went!  Is the RSA leccy as well as kick?  I have a  CBX 250 RSE which I ought to move on - running out of years left!
I don't have any recollection of the dealer Ced Francis - where was he based?  I left Hull to go to Huddersfield Teacher Training College in 1975 and then landed my first teaching job in Southport, so have been away a lot longer than I lived there - still visit rellies and friends now and then.
Ian
Title: Re: CB 400F Tank and side panels
Post by: Laverda Dave on February 10, 2024, 02:27:47 PM
Ted, that's a lovely looking Europa - FAT Hull reg too!  Don't remember the car though - wonder if Ash does? 
I sold mine Moorey to a chap in our Jag and VJMC clubs - he still has it too.  I then got a GB500TT in that Burgundy colour.  I still think the 400 was better than the 500.  With the kickstart operated decompression system, my party trick was starting the 500 by hand on the kickstart - try doing that with a 500 Goldie!

Ian

No I don't remember it in Hull Ian. My friend in Hull is just restoring a 60's  Elan Roadster. He got the body painted by SMS in Spalding last year..... ££££££. The car he bought in late 1970's from Ced Francis. Do you remember that dealer Ian? Cost him a few hundred quid when he bought it.

Interested about your comments on the de-compressor fitted to kick-start mechanism. My newly acquired CB250RSA has that arrangement. Does that mean it will be easy to start too? LaverdaDave will know.

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You have to make sure you follow the procedure in the Haynes manual with regards to free play in the cable for the decompress or to work properly. I definitely couldn't start mine by hand as the compression was quite high on these engines although Bill at the bike shop said he knew of someone who could start theirs by hand. Maybe I need to use my Bullworker a bit more but I don't have the strength to get it out of the box.....🙄
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