Post by: billywingnut on November 06, 2019, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 06, 2019, 06:25:19 PM
Post by: MCTID on November 06, 2019, 06:44:12 PM
On cleaning up the Crash Bar to prepare it to have the broken lug re-welded, I was surprised how soft the steel is, but I'll be quite happy to refit it knowing that it will fail first if it has to do its job in a slow speed slide in the future (God forbid).
I would be wary of any Crash Bar which was bolted to an Engine Block, but I suppose you have to weigh up Crankcase damage which could be prohibitively expensive whereas fitting or replacing a Crash Bar might cost £100.
Post by: mattsz on November 06, 2019, 10:15:08 PM
I have the proper ones fitted as supplied by Honda back in the day on my 400/4. Look great, very useful if you just have a stationary or very low speed drop as they would protect the engine and some other sticky out bits but I am fully aware that if I came off the bike at any decent speed and the bike hit the deck quite hard, the bars would bend, if not snap the engine mounting lugs and possibly the frame.
Got a pic handy, Julie?
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 07, 2019, 11:15:54 AM
You can see the fixing points on these Rickman bars. They come in 2 halves and are a complete tube pipe design, unlike what DS sells now which are only half a tube, if you get my driftI have the proper ones fitted as supplied by Honda back in the day on my 400/4. Look great, very useful if you just have a stationary or very low speed drop as they would protect the engine and some other sticky out bits but I am fully aware that if I came off the bike at any decent speed and the bike hit the deck quite hard, the bars would bend, if not snap the engine mounting lugs and possibly the frame.
Got a pic handy, Julie?
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Post by: mattsz on November 07, 2019, 11:48:08 AM
You can see the fixing points on these Rickman bars. They come in 2 halves and are a complete tube pipe design, unlike what DS sells now which are only half a tube, if you get my drift
I don't, but that's ok! The ones currently offered by DS are rather... busier than yours:
(https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/PEB%20400F.jpg)
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 07, 2019, 12:01:12 PM
Thanks!If you look at the top pic, you can see the vertical bars are only ½ a tube, so in effect they are ornamental. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191107/b4cdcf7e975bea8eddc4f7086ba69693.jpg)You can see the fixing points on these Rickman bars. They come in 2 halves and are a complete tube pipe design, unlike what DS sells now which are only half a tube, if you get my drift
I don't, but that's ok! The ones currently offered by DS are rather... busier than yours:
(https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/PEB%20400F.jpg)
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Post by: Nurse Julie on November 07, 2019, 12:07:05 PM
Post by: mattsz on November 07, 2019, 12:10:07 PM
If you look at the top pic, you can see the vertical bars are only ½ a tube, so in effect they are ornamental.
Ah-so! The entire "web" structure within the outside tubing is indeed half-round - horizontal and vertical, I think. I initially thought you meant all of the tubing.
I wonder if those extra half-round bits would do anything at all if called upon to help provide protection in any kind of fall. I think yours look better; less is more to my eye...
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 07, 2019, 12:15:08 PM
I don't think the half round bits will do anything at all in a drop, that why there is no need for them there. Yes, I like my basic design ones.If you look at the top pic, you can see the vertical bars are only ½ a tube, so in effect they are ornamental.
Ah-so! The entire "web" structure within the outside tubing is indeed half-round - horizontal and vertical, I think. I initially thought you meant all of the tubing.
I wonder if those extra half-round bits would do anything at all if called upon to help provide protection in any kind of fall. I think yours look better; less is more to my eye...