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Title: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Siloxious on October 14, 2023, 12:32:02 PM
Hello everyone

I'm currently restoring the fuel tank (inside). I filled the whole tank with white vinegar and let it sit for 48 hours. The results are quite good. But now I need to treat the aluminium against corrosion. I plan on using WD-40 to coat the inside of the tank (I plan on using a lot of WD-40). After soaking for a bit, I'll fill the tank again with fuel (I think the best fuel for the CB500 Four is E95?).

Is the WD-40 a good protection against corrosion?
Is this the right fuel that I'll be using?

Thanks in advance!

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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Orcade-Ian on October 14, 2023, 01:17:48 PM
Er,
Which bits are aluminium?  Whatever you put in the tank will get washed away with the fuel fairly quickly.  If it's just for storage, then diesel swished around is better.  Those pits in the surface look quite deep.  When you have finished cleaning, I would fill it with petrol before any painting, just in case of pin holes appearing.

Ian

Did you mean E5?  Here in UK we only have E5 and E10
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Siloxious on October 14, 2023, 01:55:32 PM
Here in Belgium E95 is used a lot in cars, so I thought this could be the same fuel type for motorcycles.

What fuel do you use?
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Orcade-Ian on October 14, 2023, 02:06:25 PM
Ah!
I think you will be referring to 95 Octane fuel, that is also available here.  E5 here is 5% ethanol content, E10 is 10%.  We would run a mile - or a few kilometres if we saw E95 on the pumps - that would be 95% ethanol and our old Honda engines would probably dissolve before our eyes!

Ian

 
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 14, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
The tank on my 400 was similar to yours - I would use something like a fine gravel now with some Diesel to act as a mild abrasive to remove any loose flakes of rust. I actually used some flower arrangers glass beads. When you have removed the gravel I would soak it again in something similar to Evaporust.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Sesman on October 16, 2023, 11:03:22 PM
Use Bilt hamber  diox c and fish tank gravel. Use hot water to make the solution and agitate every 6-8 hours over a 24 hour period. Rinse with de-ionised water and flush with a pint of diesel.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: DomP on October 17, 2023, 07:29:01 AM
I did mine with a mix of electrolysis and phosphoric acid, I'm not entirely happy leaving it bare but everything I read about liners puts me off them
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 17, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
Bilt hamber  diox c

What does that mean Phil?
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Athame57 on October 17, 2023, 09:35:04 AM
Bilt hamber  diox c

What does that mean Phil?
I googled and got this: https://bilthamber.com/product/deox-c/
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: taysidedragon on October 17, 2023, 12:29:35 PM
I used deox-c in my tank for 24 hours and it came up really clean. 👍
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Sesman on October 17, 2023, 06:39:16 PM
That’s the stuff. Works really well.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 18, 2023, 01:07:25 AM
Tip noted, cheers chaps, I’ve to sort the 550 tank out before I send it in for paint.
 I’m in the states from next Thursday until late December so going to tackle it when I get back.
I was going to go the vinegar route but this gubbins sounds just the job. Is there a specific recipe for a 550 tank, eg. Can I do it with one tub? Just so I order enough to be here waiting for when I get back?


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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 18, 2023, 01:12:06 AM
Just found the recipe page on the website, please disregard last message


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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Matt_Harrington on October 18, 2023, 06:30:07 PM
Roo, I've found Evaporust great at removing rust from the inside of a tank.....

If the tank is pitted, I'd be tempted to seal with tank sealant.

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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 18, 2023, 06:35:48 PM
It’s not that bad Matt with little putting, it’s about the only bit of the bike I lucked out on

I’d love to use evaporust but it’s a bit cost prohibitive tbh. This gubbins described earlier has a good right up and I can do the tank from top to bottom for 16 quid so it’s looking favourable. It would cost about £50 to do the same with the evaporust. I do use it but only on bits n bobs. How’s the hand doing, you managing a yet ?



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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Matt_Harrington on October 18, 2023, 06:40:57 PM
I'm just about ready to try my hand a thumbing a lift! ;) Seriously, its much better and should be on 2 wheels soon!

The other stuff to try is oxalic acid - I have some you can have on your return
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 18, 2023, 06:43:33 PM
Ooo, I’ll have a read on’t interweave and come back to you bud……Fanks mate.

Top news about yer paw,  be nice to get you back out and rolling


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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 18, 2023, 07:00:13 PM
Might be tank sealers have improved over the years but I'm not a fan. When I tried it on my XJ900 it still leaked - ended up buying a new tank.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Athame57 on October 18, 2023, 08:30:16 PM
I used deox-c in my tank for 24 hours and it came up really clean. 👍
What size did you need to use?
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 18, 2023, 08:35:23 PM
Citric acid is the main ingredient in Deox-c. We've used citric acid dissolved in boiling water on a few occasions, with excellent results on fairly rusty tanks. It's very cheap to buy on ebay.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Sesman on October 19, 2023, 08:34:50 AM
I used deox-c in my tank for 24 hours and it came up really clean. 👍
What size did you need to use?

The 1kg pot is all you need….£16
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: taysidedragon on October 19, 2023, 11:31:50 AM
I used deox-c in my tank for 24 hours and it came up really clean. 👍
What size did you need to use?

The 1kg pot is all you need….£16

Exactly. If I remember right it can make up a 20 litre solution. I didn't have a big enough container to do it in one go, so dissolved half the tub in a large clean bucket, poured it in the tank, then did the second half. Fill the tank to the brim, close the cap and leave it. Just agitate/rock the tank every now and again.
It's worth getting a large container to keep the solution in when you're finished, it can be used again several times.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 19, 2023, 06:29:18 PM
Ordered, thanks fella’s et all


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Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Seabeowner on October 19, 2023, 06:41:01 PM
Make it up as hot as possible. I used it as part three of my cleaning. Insulated the tank to keep it as hot as possible and it was all over in 5hrs.
Title: Re: Rusty tank restoration
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 19, 2023, 09:24:10 PM
Good tip, cheers for that


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