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Title: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 19, 2014, 10:57:56 AM
Bought a CB350 camshaft last week from DK. Very rare as they never usually strip 350 twin engines.
Normally they pack stuff really nicely but this was wrapped in a piece of bubble wrap and then in a plastic bag. result ...see attached  :'(

Phoned them rather than opening an issue with eBay and they are short on staff this week but promising a replacement, which surprises me as they never will normally strip a CB350 twin engine. But what a shame to see such a rare part scrap due to crappy packaging/courier (DPD).

Cheers ...AshD
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Johnwebley on August 19, 2014, 11:07:18 AM
be glad you didn't fit it,that looks like a faulty casting,

 I can't imagine the force required to break/shear that off,

glad your getting a replacement
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on August 19, 2014, 11:26:18 AM
Ash
Feel for you that drives me nuts and what a bloody waste.Wait to the replacement arrives b4 celebrating
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 19, 2014, 01:12:42 PM
Bought a CB350 camshaft last week from DK. Very rare as they never usually strip 350 twin engines.
Normally they pack stuff really nicely but this was wrapped in a piece of bubble wrap and then in a plastic bag. result ...see attached  :'(

Phoned them rather than opening an issue with eBay and they are short on staff this week but promising a replacement, which surprises me as they never will normally strip a CB350 twin engine. But what a shame to see such a rare part scrap due to crappy packaging/courier (DPD).

Cheers ...AshD

Never underestimate the force of a courier driver chucking stuff around  ::). Obviously a weak point where the auto-advance mechanism locating pin is fitted.

Cheers ...AshD
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: UK Pete on August 19, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
As you say , lucky they have another, I usually  get my items from them packed extremely well
Pete
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: matthewmosse on August 19, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
I think I only ever had one dk spares item, a brake caliper, and dpd took a week of lame excuses before delivering a box that whilst the contents were well protected in multiple layers of bubble wrap, the box itself looked like it had been well kicked around. Personally I have had and heard of more issues with dpd than any other courier.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Green1 on August 19, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
I'm not going to bad mouth DK they sent me a brand new k1 rear mudguard by mistake it has picked up a small scratch but I wont be complaining.

Mick
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 19, 2014, 05:39:21 PM
I'm not going to bad mouth DK they sent me a brand new k1 rear mudguard by mistake it has picked up a small scratch but I wont be complaining.

Mick

Not really bad mouthing them. To be fair they offer stuff at reasonable prices. I think I am just unlucky with them. They certainly have a no quibble returns policy and always pleasant on the phone?

Anyone know their actual email address as I can't send any pics via eBay of the damage. I tried the one in their contact details on eBay but it just bounces back.

Cheers  ...Ash
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Trigger on August 19, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
I have always had a good relationship with DK. I bought a sub harness and a full harness arrived. Reported the mistake and the sub harness arrived the next day. They did not want the full harness back, so knocked it out on fleabay.  ;)
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 20, 2014, 12:17:23 AM
Back in 1992 sorry about quality. I do have high res scan.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: singal.satish007 on May 11, 2020, 10:22:39 AM
Hi everyone,

I am also struggling in camshaft and three rocker, I have the set of 312',bit when I will assemble the set, I found lots of  clearance between the rocker and the valve tip, @ on TDCC position, I have found the markings on the rocker adjusting spindles, and I have set them on standard position like exhaust side is on 7 o'clock & inlet one on 5 O'clock, seen in many videos, the gap is almost around 4.5mm,i don't have standard measurement of camshaft &  the rocker?

Can any of you people's help me with

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Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Tomb on May 11, 2020, 10:54:44 AM
That camshaft will repair Ash, get a replacement from DK but don't bin that one.

Couriers? a mate had a new head gasket delivered, they shoved it through his letter box - folded double!!!
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 11, 2020, 10:57:39 AM
Hi .. Make sure that,   if you have 312 rockers , you don't have the early camshaft

You can't mix 312  rockers with the earlier cams and vice versa. The earlier cams need the 286 rockers (312 rockers have 312 on the castings , 286 don't have anything other than production marks). One of the early cams is a 'fat' version (centre section fatter than late version)  and easily identified. But there is an intermediate one that looks similar to the later cam (K3 model onwards and very late K2) . Best thing to do is post pics of your cam and measure the base circle and lift if you know how to do that. Hope this helps
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 11, 2020, 11:03:22 AM
That camshaft will repair Ash, get a replacement from DK but don't bin that one.

Couriers? a mate had a new head gasket delivered, they shoved it through his letter box - folded double!!!

Ha ha .. that was a long time ago mate .. I kept the broken cam (DK told me to bin it and refunded me in full )  but I have a few anyway. I did think of boring the shaft and fitting a new spindle for the auto-advance mechanism.

BTW do you still need a CB72/77 cover?  Also my mate is looking fora CB77/CB72  cafe racer/sprinter if you see one about.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Tomb on May 11, 2020, 11:27:38 AM
Haha sorry I didn't look at the original post date, it pinged up as Singal posted.

I would like to get a cover but not desperately, a damaged one will do, I know they are a bit rare in good condition with the kickstart hole undamaged, I don't need a kickstart.

On the parts side, I have a CB750 oil tank with some hoses free to a good home, it has a dent in the side.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 11, 2020, 05:33:38 PM
Haha sorry I didn't look at the original post date, it pinged up as Singal posted.

I would like to get a cover but not desperately, a damaged one will do, I know they are a bit rare in good condition with the kickstart hole undamaged, I don't need a kickstart.

On the parts side, I have a CB750 oil tank with some hoses free to a good home, it has a dent in the side.

I have a damaged one I earmarked for  you somewhere ..I will dig it out.

I am OK for an oil tank thanks so if anyone else on here needs one it may be worth putting in the sales section.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: Tomb on May 11, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
I am OK for an oil tank thanks so if anyone else on here needs one it may be worth putting in the sales section.

Ok, if anyone else wants it is cool. I'll mention it elsewhere.

As soon as we can move around again freely me and my better half are touring in my camper making our way south (I'm in Cumbria) with an end destination on the south coast to pick up an XS1100 in kit form for her, if I'm going past anyone I can deliver the oil tank.
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: singal.satish007 on May 12, 2020, 07:26:00 PM
This is my cam shaft, hope it's 312 match!! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200512/e1b4e4241915151795bf7e4d899e4fe2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200512/b97b60eb750d17e2e718f22603a763c5.jpg)

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Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 12, 2020, 09:00:24 PM
It's hard to tell from that photo. Can you measure the base circle and lift?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5srzJjHhjw
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: singal.satish007 on May 13, 2020, 09:07:54 AM
Sorry bro my micrometer is jammed, hence I used the vernier. What is the standard sizes. Of cam lobe and surrounding. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/1d07ad3f681655719fb6493380d1bb42.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/46792dffeb46dd372b94ae2b5dfbab80.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/7ca0a688f15e15752dcc49dd81cba1ed.jpg)

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Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 13, 2020, 10:37:10 AM
I think your problem is your cam is earlier than the one that uses 312 rockers as yours has a base circle of 30mm and the one that uses 312 rockers has a base circle of 33-34 mm . This is why you can't achieve the correct rocker clearances. Unfortunately, the 286 rockers are rarer and also much sought after by the CB350 classic racer fraternity.

If you look at the screenshot below I think your cam is the  -050 version

I don't have any spare 286 rockers but I will look out for you. The alternative is to source a -060 camshaft, which are more common as used on late K2,K3,K4,K5 (disc brake model) and of course you could sell yours. It really depends what you can find ...i.e. 4  x 286 rockers or a -060 camshaft.

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Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: singal.satish007 on May 13, 2020, 01:59:14 PM
The attachment is not opening, can you send me a link please so I can confirm it.

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Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 14, 2020, 08:17:23 AM
The attachment is not opening, can you send me a link please so I can confirm it.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kbqy9647cpm2ym/CB350%20cam.JPG?dl=0

The combined CB350K Parts Book scan  (essentially a bored out CB250 engine)  is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ohbdtqh5nvgvvf/Combined%20Honda_CB350_Parts_Catalog.pdf?dl=0
Title: Re: What is it with me and DK?
Post by: singal.satish007 on May 15, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
Thanks for all your help bro, this is suspense from almost a year cause not getting time to chk it thoroughly. For this I have dismantled engine twice,,

Thanks once again bro

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