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Title: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 27, 2024, 05:40:22 PM


as the title says,I want to explore Scotland,

  as I live in the west mid lands,its will involve a ride  north,

 my general plan is,

 ride north,use the M6 to get past Manchester,then explore  the local areas,

I amexpecting to ride around 300 miles a day,that can be adjusted,

 so ideally a B&B  north of  Manc

I have a friend to stay with near Glasgow,
I want to explore the islands,so info on ferries  and B&B,so a nice cruise to John O'groats,

return south on the easter side,

  similar into england,down as far as Lincilnshire,then home,

 time is not critical,
 suggestions from those thatlive in the areas,

also reccomendations of places tovisit.


  some thing for 2025

  your help is appreciated
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Orcade-Ian on April 27, 2024, 06:24:09 PM
Hi John,
It would be great for Johnny and I to meet up if it fits with your schedule.  Any idea what month in 2025 you might prefer?  Late May/early June is often kind weather-wise and accommodation is probably a bit easier too.  If you are visiting Glasgow, then the West is maybe the best - the North Coast 500 is great too but buggered up a bit now by gobbins in hired campervans.  Hubert (honda enthusiast) might also have suggestions too.  We can get discounts for friends and family at certain times of the year on the Northlink Ferries - they go from Scrabster to Stromness (90 mins) and Aberdeen to Kirkwall ((7 hours).  If you are intending coming to Orkney, we can ask around for suitable places to stay and can certainly give you a tour and some visits to other toy cupboards.

Ian
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: magpie114 on April 27, 2024, 06:44:16 PM
A good starting point would be Moffat just off the M74 which is very bike friendly. Hotels and B&Bs will give out route maps with suggested rides.
Theres a description of the area in my site with some good helpful links. https://alanmedlock.com/2021/09/05/three-lochs-run/

Alan

Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 27, 2024, 06:48:00 PM
Thanks guys,



May/June sounds great,

I shall start exploring links



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: taysidedragon on April 27, 2024, 11:11:15 PM
Use A6 North of Manchester, good road roughly parallels M6.
Scottish Borders are beautiful,  Moffat, Kelso, St Mary's Loch.
Glasgow roads are horrible,  get out of town ASAP!

Loch Lomond, pretty but jammed with tourists. Roads to Inverary and Oban good, ferries to islands from Oban.
Lots of bikes stop at The Green Welly, Tyndrum for fuel, bike and rider. Glencoe, of course.

Eilean Donan Castle, Isle of Skye, lots to see on Skye. Plockton.
Applecross and Bealach na Ba, amazing road.
Applecross Inn recommended.
After NC500 avoid the A9 south, not a great road for bikes, 50mph average speed cameras full length.
Head to Grantown on Spey and Ballater, then Balmoral Castle, Braemar and Glenshee. (my favourite road) or to Aboyne then south over Cairn o'Mount, fantastic views from the top car park.

Dunnottar Castle near Stonehaven, A92 coast road, Glen Clova all worth a look.
Broughty Ferry is nice, sandy beach and Visoccis Ice cream. 😎 Friendly bikers too.

Coast road through Fife is great, lovely old fishing villages.

In the Highlands fuel stops can be a long way apart so plan ahead. Some close on Sundays.

If you need any help let me know. I'd be happy to meet up for a ride if you want.

Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Athame57 on April 28, 2024, 05:00:42 AM
Whatever you do, don't go in the MIDGE SEASON!
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/c908fee4606c181b63352280b6dfb2b6c7b2ac87.jpg)
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 28, 2024, 08:45:18 AM
Whatever you do, don't go in the MIDGE SEASON!
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/c908fee4606c181b63352280b6dfb2b6c7b2ac87.jpg)
When is it?


Thanks for all your inputs

With the rubbish weather so far, gives me time for some route planning,



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Athame57 on April 28, 2024, 09:03:34 AM
Whatever you do, don't go in the MIDGE SEASON!
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/c908fee4606c181b63352280b6dfb2b6c7b2ac87.jpg)
When is it?
All you need to know about the dreaded midge!  ;) https://www.calltoadventure.uk/journal-entry/midges-in-scotland/
Gawd knows how they survive in Kilts!  :o
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 28, 2024, 09:17:52 AM
Whatever you do, don't go in the MIDGE SEASON!
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/c908fee4606c181b63352280b6dfb2b6c7b2ac87.jpg)
When is it?
All you need to know about the dreaded midge!  ;) https://www.calltoadventure.uk/journal-entry/midges-in-scotland/
Gawd knows how they survive in Kilts!  :o
Any time between April and September

When the wind doesn't blow!!



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 28, 2024, 10:31:00 AM
Yikes I've just read the Midge link - thank goodness Scotland is so far away, it's no longer on my bucket list. Amusingly  written I started to itch by the time it reached Scottish Clegs.
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnny4428 on April 28, 2024, 11:05:17 AM
Not much of a problem with them up in Orkney. They don’t like the wind so not many days they get a chance here. Generally late summer they seem to be more prolific. And apparently they don’t like certain blood groups. Good repellant - Avon “skin so soft” better than the repellant they sell in the shops and keeps the skin soft!😂
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: taysidedragon on April 28, 2024, 11:25:24 AM
Plus 1 for Avon Skin so Soft. The midges don't bother me much but they really go for my daughter!
The East Side of Scotland doesn't have the problem. 👍
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: taysidedragon on April 29, 2024, 01:18:36 PM
A couple more places to see in Scotland are V&A museum and Captain Scott's ship RRS Discovery in Dundee, the Kelpies and the Falkirk Wheel, the Forth Bridges (Biker's Cove in South Queensferry for pitstop and viewpoint).

Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Honda enthusiast on April 29, 2024, 02:35:41 PM
John

Inveraray is a good central point to explore the Kintyre and Cowal peninsulas both back waters away from the hordes of traffic which swell the roads in the summer months. The two peninsulas offer beautiful rides along the sea lochs often just yards away for mile upon mile. I'd look into it if time allows.

Imho avoid the idea of doing the nc500 , an aerial view would show a mass of vehicles in transit round it, not what I'd like if seeking isolation beauty and peace. Perhaps a way of short circuiting that is to find a nice place to stay in the area and make forays to see points of beauty.

Regards Hubert
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: ozzybud on April 29, 2024, 07:35:49 PM
Coming to Scotland in Late August as part of a 3 week Vacation. Now ill be sure to Bring my Midge Repellent. This is the first i have heard of these Creatures. Living near Seattle Washington we don't have a lot of bugs.
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 29, 2024, 07:42:11 PM
Thanks for all your help,

Really helpful,

Thinking may/June time

Going to try and plan a route,

How easy is it to get B&B on the islands?

Or the mainland as well?



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnny4428 on April 29, 2024, 10:25:59 PM
Shouldn’t be a problem John booking now for next year. Having said that there is the island games held here next year 12 - 18th July not sure if that would be a problem for you.
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Johnwebley on April 30, 2024, 07:50:47 AM
Shouldn’t be a problem John booking now for next year. Having said that there is the island games held here next year 12 - 18th July not sure if that would be a problem for you.
I am feeling inclined to go middle of June,

Guessing a about an 18day jaunt,

Mind, I might have to cut it short if I run out of Avon spray



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: taysidedragon on April 30, 2024, 12:20:19 PM
Shouldn’t be a problem John booking now for next year. Having said that there is the island games held here next year 12 - 18th July not sure if that would be a problem for you.
I am feeling inclined to go middle of June,

Guessing a about an 18day jaunt,

Mind, I might have to cut it short if I run out of Avon spray

🤣 Plenty of midge sprays available in most shops where it's a problem.



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Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: teenybop1 on May 01, 2024, 06:31:56 AM
Coming to Scotland in Late August as part of a 3 week Vacation. Now ill be sure to Bring my Midge Repellent. This is the first i have heard of these Creatures. Living near Seattle Washington we don't have a lot of bugs.
I'm out on the hills every day with the guide dogs and my flatcoat,,wear decent repellent and midge net,DO NOT CAMP OUT,,lol,,,the flies are worse than australia,
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Skoti on May 03, 2024, 05:44:16 PM
Hello John,

here's a link to some photos from our Scotland tour last year.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEwzoqD49h1YrSQo7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEwzoqD49h1YrSQo7)

Hope you get nice weather like we did.
Our only regret is that we didn't use our CB750F1 and took a BMW instead because we were certain it would piss down with rain.

Anyhow over 3 weeks and 3000 miles we seldom got rain, but I got forced into a Travel Lodge once to keep the peace!

Hope the photos inspire you and others to explore Scotland.


all the best

Skoti   
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: andy120t on May 03, 2024, 07:32:02 PM
I toured a bit of Scotland a few years ago...the midges were horrendous until we camped on Skye when a stiff breeze kept the little blighters at bay - I haven't ever enjoyed a coastal breeze so much!
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Honda enthusiast on May 05, 2024, 04:51:59 PM
One of my favourite rides is from Tyndrum heading east to Killin and then turning off at LixToll towards Aberfeldy, lunch in historic Kenmore by the castle gates and then into Aberfeldy turning right for Crieff over the high road and then back to Tyndrum and Oban..
It's a super ride riding on the hillside road alongside the length of Loch Tay....bet you've done that and more Gareth 😊👍
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Orcade-Ian on May 05, 2024, 07:39:33 PM
I've done that run Hubert - on the 'Wing and also on my C125 Super Cub and as you say, it's lovely!  We are so lucky with some great riding scenery and although not exactly on our doorstep, we don't have to ride out through very busy places to get there.

Ian
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Honda enthusiast on May 05, 2024, 09:11:48 PM
You're absolutely right 👍 Ian all this is just on the doorstep.
I'm planning to do this tomorrow...
Btw have you a genuine small owners handbook for your 550F1?
A kind guy on the internet on the hoc FB page was giving one away and I put my hand up. I think it's arrived and I'll give it a few days as we still quarantine post (COVID measures) and open it. If you want it it's yours , no cost. Not sure if it's the F1 or F2..[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: Orcade-Ian on May 05, 2024, 09:47:40 PM
Hello Hubert,
Yes, I would appreciate the handbook, I don't have one so far.

Will ring for a yarn,
Ian
Title: Re: exploring Scotland
Post by: taysidedragon on May 06, 2024, 01:45:41 AM
One of my favourite rides is from Tyndrum heading east to Killin and then turning off at LixToll towards Aberfeldy, lunch in historic Kenmore by the castle gates and then into Aberfeldy turning right for Crieff over the high road and then back to Tyndrum and Oban..
It's a super ride riding on the hillside road alongside the length of Loch Tay....bet you've done that and more Gareth 😊👍

Yes, that's a lovely route, and the roads for me to get there. Killin and the Falls of Dochart are a good place to stop. 👍 On the nadgery little road on the other side of Loch Tay is the Cave where Monty Python filmed the killer rabbit scene in Holy Grail!
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