Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 30, 2019, 02:53:27 PM
Bl**dy expensive I know but looks like a quality product and claims it has a 48 hour pot life, which I didn't expect.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2K-aerosol-SprayMax-SATIN-Lacquer-Clear-Coat-Spray-400ml-art-no-680067-German/262191462765?hash=item3d0bd4396d:g:YUwAAOSw7FRWbudz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNRKHGNiveo
Post by: UK Pete on December 30, 2019, 03:21:21 PM
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 30, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
Its says do not polish, that puts me off a bit
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It's also available in full gloss Pete ... see video clip.
Post by: Orcade-Ian on December 31, 2019, 08:24:23 AM
Hope all is well down in God’s own Shire,
I’ve been using 2k aerosols for a good while with great success. Never tried clearcoat but can’t see it would behave any differently.
Auto Paints in Courtney Street, Hull (on the small industrial estate) have supplied the paint for my Norton 350 and some parts I painted on the ‘Scottish’ 400/4. Might be worth a call to them to discuss your needs?
http://www.stallard-engineering.co.uk/stories/Bikes/British/norton_model_50_350cc%20Part%209.htm
Ian
Post by: Bryanj on December 31, 2019, 08:31:36 AM
Post by: Trigger on December 31, 2019, 09:00:40 AM
Pot life is more like 3 to 5 hours as soon as the can has been activated the hardener is working.
Spray nozzle will need cleaning after every coat and it needs to be done in a controlled environment , 15 to 20c and dry air.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 31, 2019, 10:33:45 AM
Most 2k lacquer will yellow over 60c. Have never found a high temp one yet that works.
Pot life is more like 3 to 5 hours as soon as the can has been activated the hardener is working.
Spray nozzle will need cleaning after every coat and it needs to be done in a controlled environment , 15 to 20c and dry air.
So what do you recommend then for engine covers ?
Post by: paul G on December 31, 2019, 10:39:05 AM
Post by: Trigger on December 31, 2019, 10:59:41 AM
Most 2k lacquer will yellow over 60c. Have never found a high temp one yet that works.
Pot life is more like 3 to 5 hours as soon as the can has been activated the hardener is working.
Spray nozzle will need cleaning after every coat and it needs to be done in a controlled environment , 15 to 20c and dry air.
So what do you recommend then for engine covers ?
Lacquer will not stick to alloy polished covers, you will get runs. Easy to lacquer a large flat area, than a undulating surface. Just polish the covers and keep buffing to keep them in good order ;)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 31, 2019, 11:08:50 AM
Most 2k lacquer will yellow over 60c. Have never found a high temp one yet that works.
Pot life is more like 3 to 5 hours as soon as the can has been activated the hardener is working.
Spray nozzle will need cleaning after every coat and it needs to be done in a controlled environment , 15 to 20c and dry air.
So what do you recommend then for engine covers ?
Lacquer will not stick to alloy polished covers, you will get runs. Easy to lacquer a large flat area, than a undulating surface. Just polish the covers and keep buffing to keep them in good order ;)
Nah ..don't like that .. will finda decent clearcoat mate.
Post by: Trigger on December 31, 2019, 11:17:39 AM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 31, 2019, 12:53:12 PM
The original Honda Lacquer was a etch lacquer that had a acid in it. This has been banned for many years, maybe you will find it in the outback of china somewhere ;)
I understood it was a pre-treatment to the alloy with chromic acid based etchant. You can still get it Alodine 1001 is a typical product and an alternative is Iridite NCP (chrome & cadmium free). I understand you don't need to go to China to have it done ... Leeds is a bit closer for me.
http://www.silchrome.co.uk/products--services/conversion-coatings
Post by: Trigger on December 31, 2019, 01:35:19 PM
I had a NOS new 500 four clutch housing in. The flat outer face had no coating on it whatsoever but, the rest did.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 01, 2020, 01:26:32 PM
Is that I clear coat ? It looks like a dipping process.
I had a NOS new 500 four clutch housing in. The flat outer face had no coating on it whatsoever but, the rest did.
Yes it's a surface treatment and this can then be clear coated... just like he great Vic World does to his Sandcast restorations.
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Post by: Trigger on January 01, 2020, 07:26:21 PM
You can easy get etch primer but, I have never understood why you can't get a etch clear coat.
Post by: JamesH on January 01, 2020, 08:08:07 PM
I wish I could have a chance to build a sandcast engine one day, then I could have my name in lights ;D ;D ;D
You can easy get etch primer but, I have never understood why you can't get a etch clear coat.
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 01, 2020, 08:57:24 PM
I wish I could have a chance to build a sandcast engine one day, then I could have my name in lights ;D ;D ;D
You can easy get etch primer but, I have never understood why you can't get a etch clear coat.
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Joking aside James ;D Do you have any recommendations?
Post by: JamesH on January 01, 2020, 09:03:39 PM
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