Post by: Moorey on February 02, 2019, 11:08:54 PM
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Post by: gtmdriver on February 03, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
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I've repainted the coloured panels, fitted a new exhaust and rear spring/dampers, reconditioned the forks, swinging arm, wheel bearings and brakes and fitted electronic ignition and an electronic regulator but the frame, engine and chromework is all untouched. I just want to ride it rather than restore it.
Post by: Nurse Julie on February 03, 2019, 07:10:56 PM
Post by: Moorey on February 03, 2019, 08:49:15 PM
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Post by: Moorey on February 03, 2019, 08:50:40 PM
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Post by: Moorey on February 03, 2019, 08:54:37 PM
Exactly what I've done with mine.
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I've repainted the coloured panels, fitted a new exhaust and rear spring/dampers, reconditioned the forks, swinging arm, wheel bearings and brakes and fitted electronic ignition and an electronic regulator but the frame, engine and chromework is all untouched. I just want to ride it rather than restore it.
That all looks very nice. Are the exhausts repo's from Silvers
Post by: matthewmosse on February 03, 2019, 11:43:18 PM
Post by: gtmdriver on February 04, 2019, 09:30:26 AM
That all looks very nice. Are the exhausts repo's from Silvers
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They are repros but not from Silvers. 5 or 6 sets turned up on eBay a couple of years back for around £800 so I grabbed a set.
Post by: kevski on February 04, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Post by: Moorey on February 04, 2019, 08:07:48 PM
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Post by: Rob62 on February 04, 2019, 09:21:16 PM
Post by: Moorey on February 05, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
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Post by: Green1 on February 05, 2019, 08:27:25 PM
The chrome looks good in the pics
Post by: Moorey on February 05, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
Post by: Green1 on February 05, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Post by: andy120t on February 07, 2019, 07:49:35 AM
Post by: Moorey on February 07, 2019, 10:48:45 AM
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on February 07, 2019, 02:57:33 PM
Post by: Moorey on February 07, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
Nice bike. Crich this year so we can all inspect it??
Schools still out on that one yet.
Post by: Moorey on February 08, 2019, 03:48:13 PM
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Post by: JamesH on February 08, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
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Post by: Moorey on February 13, 2019, 08:54:14 PM
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Carbs back in and new cables. What a pain in the arse getting the carbs back in. A lot worse than doing the 750. Is there a easy way. Am I missing a trick somewhere.
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New internals in the petrol tap tank back on and seat with new cover. There are a couple of dings in the tank that I will try to remove when I can get to make something to try and press them out from the inside.
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Post by: Moorey on February 13, 2019, 09:19:26 PM
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Plugs back in, swilled the tank out with diesel, put some petrol in the tank and away it went. I have 1 float bowl leaking on the gasket. Bugger. I hoped I would get away with re using them. New ones now coming. :) I obviously need more practice with them carbs anyway.
Post by: Nurse Julie on February 13, 2019, 10:09:29 PM
Post by: kevski on February 14, 2019, 09:02:02 AM
Post by: Rob62 on February 14, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
Post by: mattsz on February 15, 2019, 07:05:03 PM
I'd like to get it all clean, then degreased; maybe do something about the frame surface rust where the paint's off...
Post by: Moorey on February 15, 2019, 07:55:39 PM
This is a spare tank I bought for the 750f that someone in their wisdom thought would look nice with a black stripe up it. So I rubbed it away.
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Post by: mattsz on February 16, 2019, 11:28:53 AM
No bench for me, the bike is still in one piece! I do have lots of rags, though, so I'll just start at the top and work my way down...
Post by: Moorey on February 16, 2019, 01:04:26 PM
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Time to start on the back end, out with the wheel, swingarm and off with the mudguard, started with a bit of a clean down with a petrol, diesel mix which leaves a bit of a oily residue.
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Hopefully I will never need to refer to these.
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Now off to exercise my hip by walking to the pub. ;)
Post by: K2-K6 on February 16, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
Or wall paper stripper/steam thing. Always nervous about sloshing flammable stuff around inside buildings. :o
Just get a drip tray underneath to let it flush down.
Post by: Moorey on February 17, 2019, 05:33:27 PM
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Attacked a couple of dings in the rear mudguard and they are far less noticeable now.
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Post by: taysidedragon on February 18, 2019, 08:23:10 AM
Post by: Moorey on February 18, 2019, 08:49:35 AM
Post by: kevski on February 18, 2019, 09:31:42 AM
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Post by: Moorey on February 21, 2019, 12:37:46 PM
The last pic is the seal and valve springs removed with the engine still in the bike with the head and carbs still on.
I will have to give some thought to putting it back together, but I have until the new seal comes. ;D
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Post by: Rob62 on February 21, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
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Post by: Andych on February 22, 2019, 01:50:47 AM
Looks to be in really good condition inside though..
Post by: kevski on February 22, 2019, 06:59:59 AM
Post by: Moorey on February 22, 2019, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: kevski on February 22, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
Post by: Moorey on February 22, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
Post by: Moorey on February 23, 2019, 10:17:13 AM
I thought the early ones did not have stem seals on the exhaust side, i have not been into mnine so unable to verify.
The parts book lists 8 for the F. Unless there is some confusion as the first engine number listed is 1068969.
It does say at the beginning of the book.
If there is a production change to a part, the frame or engine number to which this part become effected will be indicated in the " Serial No " column. However, in the case the part is used from the initial serial number, its applicable serial number is not shown.
I read that as it should have them, But could well be wrong . Hopefully someone more au fait with the Honda parts system will enlighten us.
Post by: royhall on February 23, 2019, 10:45:16 AM
Some engines (mine included) had stem seals on the exhaust side and some had unsealed guides that are machined to a point to shed the excess oil. According to some on the internet the excessive wear is due to the stem seals on this engine and the lack of oil on the valve stems, and they should have the other type. Many others disagree and say to fit the 400 type with the seal (which as we know should be designed to leak slightly). I even checked the ones on Yamiya's site for the 400 and if you buy the full set they all have seals, if you buy the exhaust guides separately they don't have seals? All the guides on CMS for the 350 are without seals except for the French bikes. This is all a bit weird.I rang CMS with my engine number and they say the non sealed version so that is what I have gone with (even though seals were fitted in my engine). On top of that there are 4 different versions of unsealed guides so I went with the latest version. Just hope it's the right decision as I have fitted them now.
Post by: Moorey on February 23, 2019, 11:50:54 AM
I guess you pays your money and make your choice then. ;)
I had read your smokey thread and the one on the US forum and then when I saw this bike was a smoker I just thought "Bollocks." We shall see though.
Post by: Moorey on February 23, 2019, 02:14:35 PM
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Post by: Moorey on February 26, 2019, 01:50:28 PM
Just need a V5 and plate now. :)
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Post by: Nurse Julie on February 26, 2019, 01:51:49 PM
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Post by: Moorey on March 12, 2019, 03:09:02 PM
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So I put the disc cutter through them and pulled them into what I thought a better looking line. Actually a 3inch rise at the end of the silencer. Then rewelded the 6mm gap I had made in pulling them up and cut down the huge mounting bracket.
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The end result I am far happier with and can live with. Still awaiting the V5.
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Post by: Nurse Julie on March 12, 2019, 03:59:09 PM
Post by: Moorey on March 12, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
Those silencers look very good at that angle......a huge improvement.
I am glad you agree as I didn't really want to get rid of them as they are Hookers, which were very big in drag racing in the 70s.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on March 12, 2019, 07:28:53 PM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 12, 2019, 08:04:22 PM
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Post by: Moorey on March 12, 2019, 08:07:16 PM
Hookers in drag.
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Post by: Moorey on March 12, 2019, 08:15:12 PM
Post by: Rob62 on March 12, 2019, 08:25:42 PM
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Post by: Moorey on March 21, 2019, 09:29:52 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 21, 2019, 09:42:29 PM
Post by: Moorey on March 21, 2019, 09:53:16 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 21, 2019, 10:26:21 PM
Do you know the size of the O rings on the connecting pipes between the carbs Julie. Or anyone else for that matter. :)I have no idea Chris, I always buy them as part of a kit. You could measure the ones you have or ask Gerben.
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Post by: Moorey on March 22, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 22, 2019, 09:14:40 PM
I've measured them up 6mm ID x 2mm CS. You get 2 with each carb set, but need 12 in total if replacing them all.I can send you 12 of them Chris. PM me your address and i will get them in the post.
Post by: Moorey on March 22, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 22, 2019, 09:42:27 PM
Just ordered some before I put the post on, but the offer is appreciated thanks Julie.Trigger has been in the outside workshop for ½ hour, with a torch to find a bag of them for you. He has to use a torch as there are so many lights in the workshop, he can't afford to put them on just to look for some bits of rubber. He says that's the last bloody time he offers to help you.........only joking, no probs Chris, just glad you got sorted.
Post by: Moorey on March 22, 2019, 09:56:04 PM
Post by: Moorey on March 28, 2019, 04:21:57 PM
When I put the carbs back on every carb overflowed and no amount of tapping on the bowls would stop them until I turned the fuel off added a bit of 2stroke oil to the tank and started the bike with the fuel turned off then after a minute or so turned on the fuel and run the engine until it got warmed through and they have been fine since.
Ps I think the exhaust looks a lot better now , I might lift it at the back end a little more yet as its not hard to do.
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Post by: Nurse Julie on March 28, 2019, 06:04:55 PM
Post by: Moorey on March 28, 2019, 06:57:42 PM
For what its worth, i think the exhaust looks just spot on where you have it now Chris.
Input is always welcome. :) Anyone else care to pitch in.
Post by: K2-K6 on March 28, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
I think the bike is an unusual blend of design, it looks very classic with fork shrouds, overall colour and graphics etc, but at the time of issue so advanced to have a four cylinder of that capacity.
Looking back at old bike magazines, British and other manufacturers were always proposing production four cylinder engines. Honda just went ahead and built it almost as an aside to other bikes.
I do think the original four pipes on the 350 are one of the best looking of all those from that era though. Surprises me that they are not a more numerous model bike though. I'd choose one over the contemporary twins without hesitation.
Very nice bike.
Post by: Rob62 on March 28, 2019, 07:41:33 PM
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