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Was working on an XR 500 Honda years ago and couldn't identify sizing on a bolt in the head, turned out to be 9mm........yes nine!! only one I've ever seen.

You may be lucky to get a straight match off the shelf, if so I'd buy a spare set as well.

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CB750 / Re: CB750 K3 Oil leak
« on: July 24, 2010, 09:55:57 PM »
Didn't put enough detail in last post but the question about how big a skim has an impact on cam chain tensioner also as the total shift is doubled (2 runs of chain, up and down) so the tensioner will reach max tolerance earlier in the chain wear cycle.

Be interesting to see how you get on as I've never worked on one with a skim to my knowledge.

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CB500/550 / Re: Pictures of my Honda
« on: July 24, 2010, 09:44:38 PM »
Two birds with one stone there, could be a 350 strimmer......with apes! I think you should start an apes appreciation thread. ;D

My 750 K6 is currently sorn and leaning at the back of the garage, bought it crashed years ago and used it a lot for commuting so very tatty but all there and needs restore / recommission.

I usually keep them clean but think they are for using so don't go in for the factory fresh stance that some prefer, but it's good to see anything out and about.

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I'm not sure if this will be suitable for your timescale and don't know if they are still going but:- there was a company called "PRECORIL Seals" in Frimley that I've bought o-rings from to my spec years ago and they just seemed to specialise in this stuff. I lived near there and just went in with examples that they matched so they don't specifically do bikes but in depth application of seals.

Will be going past there this week so will look them up if I can't find on www.

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CB750 / Re: CB750 K3 Oil leak
« on: July 23, 2010, 08:48:31 PM »
It'll be interesting to see how you get on, did they say how much they skimmed from each surface?

Hopefully you'll soon have it oil-tight and able to enjoy a good run out, thanks for keeping us informed it's alway's good to see the full story and eventual progress.

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Misc / Open / Re: Nice Bike.......... Not sure about the tyres !!!
« on: July 22, 2010, 10:11:28 PM »
Kawasaki's new anti-lock brakes really played havoc with the wheel design.

But really why would anybody spend part of their life doctoring a photo to look like that!! I can think of better thin...........................................

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CB750 / Re: Phil Read Replica CB750
« on: July 22, 2010, 07:03:16 PM »
The spoke end covers were used on the road bike but not on the racer which this is a replica of (the RCB of 1976 I think) so I guess either could be considered correct or of that period.

There is a good book that covers the racers of that period which the style was taken from "RIDE IT!" The complete book of Endurance racing by John Robinson.

Even got a picture of Phil Read on the works RCB in 1977 Bol d'Or, bike No5, partnered but Tony Rutter, as well as lots of wierd and wonderful "developments" from mainly european teams.

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CB500/550 / Re: Pictures of my Honda
« on: July 22, 2010, 06:42:11 PM »
I like that pic of the 350, is the garden grown along the lines of patina as well ;)

Apes on that one as well, If you had an RC30 do you think you could get a pair of apes on that? ;D

I think everything is good fun to ride, you have to have what suits you, thanks for the pictures.

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CB750 / Re: Phil Read Replica CB750
« on: July 21, 2010, 10:24:15 PM »
Try cranking it with throttle held wide open to get some air into it, DON'T pump the throttles as they fill the motor with fuel that is not used and then backfire the unburnt fuel in the exhaust.

Or get someone to push you in second gear with throttles open........close if it fires......quickly!

Sounds like the ignition / points are producing something as it wouldn't go bang otherwise.

One coil should supply No's 1+4 with the opposite from the other coil.

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CB750 / Re: Your opinions on this "Barn Find" please
« on: July 21, 2010, 06:41:47 PM »
Appears to be all there, I guess you'd go and look at it if you were serious.

Like anything at will have it's own value to who-ever wants it, I was speaking to someone the other day that lost 18k in two years buying a new chrysler voyager yikes!! you could get two of these and pay for a build and still not reach that amount.

Also it would still come in under many newer bikes to buy and repair AND hold it's eventual cost for years if looked after.

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CB500/550 / Re: Replacing the forks or not?
« on: July 21, 2010, 06:20:33 PM »
They do look good with twin discs of original type as they are quite big and suit the cafe racer style, I had a pair on CB750 and they are quite potent compared to a single and the power you've got.

If you want a neater look and are having new rims laced up then you could go to an 18" rim at the front also as this gives a different choice of tyres, and with a small drop of the fork yolks, say 25 mm will massage the steering into a slightly quicker response without changing much (this assumes you are using clip-ons as the fork legs will hit standard bars. Also need to check mudgaurd to exhaust clearance at full compression.

Shorter american spec rear mudgaurds look good too if you are keeping anything like that on it.

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Misc / Open / Re: The Dreded Rust
« on: July 21, 2010, 06:04:47 PM »
I like a good bit of test pilot-ry? Pete.

When I saw that suggestion I thought what a good way to do it, I know that in shot blasting that they can use sharper or more rounded grit depending on what there is to remove, although it sounds alarming it is quite a gentle low risk way to do it.

Let us know if it's any good.

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CB750 / Re: Phil Read Replica CB750
« on: July 20, 2010, 11:25:02 PM »
If they are standard coils / leads I don't think they'll reach the wrong plugs. but worth checking.

Some nice bikes there though.

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CB750 / Re: CB750 K3 Oil leak
« on: July 20, 2010, 11:10:48 PM »
Hi again. To me that would confirm that you need a sealant at key points if not all (I've always covered total area) on any gaskets pattern or otherwise.

These are my reasons:- Honda clearly designed (original gasket proves it) to have some type of sealing additional to the gasket material around the oil ways.

I don't believe that sufficient torque can be exerted to do it totally dry with no additional sealant of some sort (copper rings, factory applied sticky-bits).

If you don't have that original spec of gasket OR something superior to it you'll have to use a substitute.

You can't increase the torque without stepping outside the original design spec, anybody that knows anything about the engineering design process will tell you that looking at this design (layed down in 1967 ish) was an absolute masterpiece then and still is an example of how to make a first off reliable engine from scratch; just one example is the stud design that is waisted (thinner) in the centre than at the threads to give equal torque load over the whole length and cross-section of each stud!!! also how the bottom threads are buried down into the casing so that the load is pulled from further within the material again to spread load indicates how thorough the design team went to work.

To me, the risk of using Blue Hylomar is only to avoid ANY loose sealant floating around as it survives in oil. The rest is all upside, as previously posted (by rigwit?) this stuff is seriously good.

With a nice new tube you can get a really thin spread coating onto the gasket, it even looks and feels like the original coating when it's dry.

Be interesting to see what your barrel / head inspection shows, let us know.

Maybe a bit too enthusiastic design appreciation there, maybe should be filed under "soapbox" but they are really good...............really.

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CB500/550 / Re: Replacing the forks or not?
« on: July 20, 2010, 09:51:55 PM »
Most things are possible but it depends if you want it to work afterwards.

You see many specials with changed forks so not a difficult mod, just have to be a bit careful about the geometry that you construct to give the ride you want.

Going from a 19" rim and quite a bit more Kg's with lazy steering, trail etc will take some informed guestimating to arrive at 17" rim and modern trail, also you'll have the older head angle (rake) still mixed in to give you a good pot to stir!

Not trying to put you off, but you do need a reasonable plan to get there.

Don't know if it's possible, 600legs into original yolks could be the way to go as less variables will come into it (you'll have to measure it). Then lift or drop the front end on the legs to trim head angle approx.

Then you may need a test pilot+parachute :o

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