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Title: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 12, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
I'm beginning to get a little frustrated with this after working on it for hours. I noticed that the filter element didn't sit poperly in the housing and noticed that the reason is there is an M6 nut in the way. The washer 17318-323-010 has a captive thread and doesn't protrude into the case very much at all but a nut does. This washer sits inside the case at the bottom and connects the housing with the carb intake box.

This part is listed as unavailable, although there is a seller in Italy with one that will cost me £30.00 shipped... >:(

I'm sure I'm not the first to come across this issue and there must be a work around but for the life of me I can't work it out. How have others got along without this part please?
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 12, 2018, 04:50:15 PM
Might have cracked this, just found an M6 chimney nut 19mm wide on Demon Tweeks for £1.35 pluss 95p P & P that looks as if it will do the job. I'll keep you posted in case it works and others have the same problem...
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Trigger on August 12, 2018, 05:31:05 PM
Are you on about this unavailable part  ;)


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Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 12, 2018, 05:38:24 PM
That's the one Graham.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Trigger on August 12, 2018, 05:41:37 PM
Nope, there are two  ;D ;D You have to be very careful, as all the spacers have to be the right size or it will crack the plastic when you tighten up the bolts  ;)
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 12, 2018, 05:44:20 PM
The spacers appear correct Graham, could you please measure the width and depth of the chimney on those when you get a chance please? I can probably make something usable with what I've ordered.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Trigger on August 12, 2018, 05:53:43 PM
Depth is 7.20mm and width is 20.70 with a length of 40.20  ;)
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 12, 2018, 06:08:13 PM
Thanks Graham, I will make something with those dimensions and post the final result.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 13, 2018, 08:26:56 AM
Sure I have one of those around somewhere, seem to recall spotting it in a box of bolts only the other week. You need it?

If you have a spare I would really appreciate it. Let me know the cost and I will be more than happy to reimburse you.  ;D
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 13, 2018, 11:00:29 AM
While I'm at it, could some kind soul please measure the air cleaner plate, part number 17331-323-000 and looks like the picture below. It goes between the air filter body and the carb intake box and is now unobtainable.

I need the metal thickness, maximum width and height please. The rest I can make up as I go along using the picture and housing as a guide. Thanks, Sye
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 13, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
Doesn't look like that Sye, goes between the filter case and plenum chamber on the top bolt. Thought that didn't look familiar, just looked at my parts book and no idea where CMS got that picture from but it's not the CB500K

It doesn't look like the picture above, that's something else I need to make. It looks like this:
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 14, 2018, 06:44:58 AM
Are you on drugs Sye, that's a pic of the first part you were after.  :) :) :)

Looks like the right one tome same as Trigger posted  ;)
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 14, 2018, 07:13:47 AM
Are you on drugs Sye, that's a pic of the first part you were after.  :) :) :)

Yep, that's the part I'm after Oddjob.

I also need dimensions of the second one I pictured. Dohh, serves me right for going off at a tangent. I should have started another thread.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Trigger on August 14, 2018, 07:59:20 AM
Doesn't look like that Sye, goes between the filter case and plenum chamber on the top bolt. Thought that didn't look familiar, just looked at my parts book and no idea where CMS got that picture from but it's not the CB500K

I got a air box from Germany or was it Holland some years ago that had one of those plates Ken. Not sure if it was for the European 500 four that had that scoop/ram air top, as we had the tool tray  ;)
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 14, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
I got a air box from Germany or was it Holland some years ago that had one of those plates Ken. Not sure if it was for the European 500 four that had that scoop/ram air top, as we had the tool tray  ;)

Are you saying I don't need it Graham, the parts fiche shows it fitted on the UK K1?
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Seabeowner on August 14, 2018, 09:00:47 AM
It was fitted to my all original US K0. It doesn't do a lot, maybe just keeps the two bits of plastic flat where they bolt together. I bought one for my K1 when they were available, but think they were quietly dropped. Doesn't appear on later models.
It's 0.42mm thick.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 14, 2018, 09:23:20 AM
I think Oddjob has answered this question but it isn't fitted to our UK CB500/4 K1. The parts fiches are not to be believed at times 😁😁😁.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: Seabeowner on August 14, 2018, 11:19:46 AM
I think it was possibly dropped before the K1s, but it does show on all the parts lists K0, K1, K2.
One thing I have never seen is a rubber bit over the front top of the air cleaner shown on the p/l.
17315-323-000. According the parts list it was fitted to countries A, D, E, F. Clauss Studios sell it.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: petermigreen on August 14, 2018, 04:03:53 PM
I think it was possibly dropped before the K1s, but it does show on all the parts lists K0, K1, K2.
One thing I have never seen is a rubber bit over the front top of the air cleaner shown on the p/l.
17315-323-000. According the parts list it was fitted to countries A, D, E, F. Clauss Studios sell it.
My 500 has that rubber piece. May also have the metal plate as well, need to check.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: petermigreen on August 14, 2018, 08:14:31 PM
Just for Seabeowner

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Can't make out the flat plate but seem to recall one? ???
Peter
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on August 16, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
Here's the result of my efforts, all dimensions are correct although it could look a little prettier I suppose. Fits fine and seems to do the job. Just waiting a day or so for the paint to dry fully and then assemble.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: deltarider on May 08, 2019, 12:51:43 PM
I have my airfilter case apart and forgot how that part (17318-323-000) should be oriented. You have to look well, but the pic in the CB500K2 (ED, F, G) parts list seems to suggest it protrudes into the chamber and not into the hole. https://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/honda-cb500k2-general-export-f-16-air-cleaner_big3IMG01171138_b55e.gif Is that right?
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on May 08, 2019, 02:29:49 PM
I have my airfilter case apart and forgot how that part (17318-323-000) should be oriented. You have to look well, but the pic in the CB500K2 (ED, F, G) parts list seems to suggest it protrudes into the chamber and not into the hole. https://images.cmsnl.com/img/partslists/honda-cb500k2-general-export-f-16-air-cleaner_big3IMG01171138_b55e.gif Is that right?

Yep, into the chamber is correct and the filter is slanted at the front to accommodate it.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: deltarider on May 09, 2019, 06:52:22 AM
Thanks Sye.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: deltarider on May 09, 2019, 11:16:44 AM
... and the filter is slanted at the front to accommodate it.
I am not sure I understand what you mean by that... (forgive me I'm not a native speaker)
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: sye on May 09, 2019, 11:30:51 AM
There is an angled slope on the bottom front edge that gives a little more clearance for the threaded part to protrude into the air filter case. I've attached a picture that may help you visualise it.
Title: Re: Air filter case washer 17318-323-010
Post by: deltarider on May 09, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
Aha! Never noticed that. Thanks Sye. I learn everyday.
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