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Title: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Niko on April 16, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
Hi...can anyone tell me the difference please.
I have fitted the only one that came with the bike ....not sure which other one I need.

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Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: mike the bike on April 16, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
That looks like the push cable, where the locknut goes the other side of the bracket to keep it in place.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Johnwebley on April 16, 2017, 07:17:55 PM
you have fitted the the pull cable,

  also you havn,t quite got the 2 nuts fitted correctly,the nut are supposed to clamp onto the mounting bracket,to prevent any chance
of the cable falling away,

 I think the bottom "push" cable has a half round mounting to locate it as well as the 2 nuts as well,

I am sure others will be able to advise you better than I

 
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Niko on April 16, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
you have fitted the the pull cable,

  also you havn,t quite got the 2 nuts fitted correctly,the nut are supposed to clamp onto the mounting bracket,to prevent any chance
of the cable falling away,

 I think the bottom "push" cable has a half round mounting to locate it as well as the 2 nuts as well,

I am sure others will be able to advise you better than I


Cheers..

I've since repositioned the securing nut.



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Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Green1 on April 16, 2017, 07:26:42 PM
Johns spot on I'm currently sitting in front of a box of cables separating them ready for posting.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: florence on April 17, 2017, 08:31:50 AM
what is the function of the push cable?  The spring is so strong, when I release the throttle it whizzes back all by itself.  My bikes never had the push cable.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: hairygit on April 17, 2017, 08:39:09 AM
It's there to cover the remote possibility of the throttles jamming open, such as seized or poorly maintained linkage or frayed and sticky cable. The second cable forces the throttles shut as the twistgrip is closed. Honda put it there for safety, and insurance companies have used the lack of one being fitted as an excuse to avoid paying out. You have been warned!

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Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: florence on April 17, 2017, 08:49:24 AM
The stop switch is much more effective in that situation.  I've told the insurance company it's modified with higher bars, perhaps I will be more specific.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: hairygit on April 17, 2017, 09:08:36 AM
It wouldn't be the first time I've worked on somebody's bike and found the kill switch bypassed as a cheap fix for a dodgy switch. Insurance companies will use any excuse to avoid paying out these days, and even if the accident isn't your fault, the other party's insurer will look for any excuse. Also, most policies these days state in the small print that the vehicle must be kept in a well maintained roadworthy condition, and not fitting or removing "safety" items fitted as stock can invalidate your policy, so always tell them everything!

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Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Niko on April 17, 2017, 09:13:02 AM
Thanks gents...
Push  cable to be ordered then.

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Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: florence on April 17, 2017, 09:54:30 AM
how annoying.  I think I will get the garage to make up a set of cables when I go for the MOT at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: deltarider on April 18, 2017, 07:32:16 AM
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Insurance companies will use any excuse to avoid paying out these days, and even if the accident isn't your fault, the other party's insurer will look for any excuse. Also, most policies these days state in the small print that the vehicle must be kept in a well maintained roadworthy condition, and not fitting or removing "safety" items fitted as stock can invalidate your policy, so always tell them everything!
So far I've not heard of one example of that practice. And I've never heard of one example where a rider in a fall was so conscious that he switched off the run switch and praised it afterwards. Although a kill switch can be usefull, my push cable is still new in its plastic bag (really don't know why I bought it). Maybe somenone has a suggestion I could use it as a pull cable. The push cable is probably an American hobby like texts in rear view mirrors warning that objects could be nearer and texts on microwaves not to dry pets in it.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: florence on April 18, 2017, 08:32:56 AM
I used the kill switch on a Kawasaki 550 once.  It wouldn't start after I had been working on it and I flattened the battery trying to turn it over.  I decided to give it a go bumping it down a hill.  To my great surpise it burst into life and took off at full throttle.  Fortunately I was able to use the kill switch.  When I took the petrol tank off I realised I had trapped the throttle cable with the tank and consequently the throttles were in the fully open position, which explained why it didn't want to start.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: deltarider on April 18, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
Nice bikes, them Kawa's 550. Have a spirit of their own, haven't they? ;)
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Ashdowner on April 28, 2017, 07:53:09 PM
Now I agree theses are different carbs to my PD46's but assuming the same basic principles apply doesn't the photo show the pull cable wrongly fitted to the push bracket with the nipple inserted into the push locator on the wheel? The pull cable goes under the wheel and the push goes on top.
Title: Re: Push and pull throttle cables
Post by: Ashdowner on April 30, 2017, 07:42:11 AM
Ok. Turns the opposite way to the PD46 carbs then.
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