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Title: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: cb750stu on January 22, 2014, 07:47:37 AM
Hi Folks,

Just wondering if anyone can recommend a good chain tool there are loads out there but most of the ones look like they would break just by looking at them !!!

Also I'm after a good spark plug socket it took me ages last night to change 4 plugs on my 76 750 F1,

Cheers,

Stuart
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 22, 2014, 09:37:21 AM
Hi Stu.
Middle 2 a bastard.I found that my Yam XJR1300 albeit shorter was good at getting them out as it has a spanner head whereas the honda one has a hole through it.Just do not over tighten with the spanner head.Bryan may remember if I am right but Honda had a two piece plug tool that was bloody good a bit like the one in the photo.The one in the photo is ok for the outer ones and ok for all when the engines out,hope this helps.
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: matthewmosse on January 22, 2014, 10:12:47 PM
I use an angle grinder to knock the rivett heads off and punch them out with a parrelell pin punch if shortening. If joining a rivett chain I pein the rivetts over carefully using a hammer. That said I prefer the old split link chains and lower hp bikes (cb550 being the biggest chain bine I have owned). If you have something modern and sporty then perhaps the proper tool might be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Waggles on January 23, 2014, 11:47:14 AM
I have a rivet tool that worked OK but have only used it once so can't really say how reliable it will be over time. Will try and remember / find out where I got it. Think most are broken when trying to remove a link, the instructions with mine said you should grind the head off first, seems sensible.

As for plugs I use the socket from the original tool kit. Yes the middle two are a bit fiddly but not too bad if you don't over tighten ( quarter turn only )
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: matthewmosse on January 23, 2014, 01:48:11 PM
I haven't done the plugs on a 750, but on my 550's I found a draper one was just about able to get in there to do the job, but might well decide since I have 2 I may turn the shoulders off the spare in my lathe to inprove access - the main issue was the sockett getting stuck in there and dropping off the extension bar.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 23, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
Get the correct Honda plug spanner from Silvers, you won't regret it.

Is the 750 different to the 550 in that regard?
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 23, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
Does anyone have the part number for the plug spanner?
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 23, 2014, 09:43:36 PM
550 is 89216323000

http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/parts/by-part-number/partnumber_4826/

So far I've discovered it fits 500/550/650 and 750. Still checking.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 23, 2014, 10:00:27 PM
Thanks lester.just ordered one £14.10.no more arsein about with box spanners.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 23, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
Sorry stu for the hijack!
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: cb750stu on January 23, 2014, 10:05:01 PM
No worries man I've just ordered one as well cheers
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 23, 2014, 10:07:33 PM
Well I've just discovered the one for the 400 is different.  :-\
Different part number anyhoo. May be the same tool.
http://www.gearhead.com/honda-99004-18002.html#/s/HOM//99004-18002/1
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 25, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Well I've just discovered the one for the 400 is different.  :-\
Different part number anyhoo. May be the same tool.
http://www.gearhead.com/honda-99004-18002.html#/s/HOM//99004-18002/1
They are les,left is the 400 tool and 550 to right
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Trigger on January 25, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
How did this get on to spark plug sockets? What happened to the chain rivet tool?
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 25, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
Hijack trigger
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Trigger on January 25, 2014, 11:07:37 PM
Hijack, take a look at Resin in tank.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 26, 2014, 01:21:50 AM
Well they come in sealed honda packet from dss.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 26, 2014, 11:01:34 AM
This is from my 500/4 toolkit.


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Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Lobo on January 26, 2014, 12:42:49 PM
...that looks just the job Steve, but what's the 'waisting' for towards the plug end?

I too have 'Honda' plug spanners in my 400/750 'kits (or so I thought upto now).... cheapish alloy box spanners. To be honest though, exactly as I remember from 1978 when I bought my first 400F (new)

Might go hunting a couple of these...
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Norniron on January 26, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
...that looks just the job Steve, but what's the 'waisting' for towards the plug end?

I too have 'Honda' plug spanners in my 400/750 'kits (or so I thought upto now).... cheapish alloy box spanners. To be honest though, exactly as I remember from 1978 when I bought my first 400F (new)

Might go hunting a couple of these...

Dont go buying this,it isnt genuine enough
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 26, 2014, 01:47:07 PM
That's the same as mine. Honda probably revised them.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 26, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
Well it works perfectly so I can't complain.
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2014, 07:28:22 PM
The originals were knurled? so it was easier to turn with your fingers.I too have one in the sealed Honda packet but I think its a re pro
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Oddjob like I have said previously reading stuff on here is re vitalising my bonce I have forgotton so much. I knew all them years ago getting hitched and becoming a car nerd would not be good for me and now it has breathed new life into me again saying that cant wait for the rain to stop.
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Chain breaker Rivet tool ??
Post by: Bryanj on February 13, 2014, 08:02:05 AM
Being as I also bought one from western hills i may be interested, then they might mate and suply a 6mm box!!
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