Post by: Oddjob on July 28, 2023, 05:01:07 PM
The cutoff doesn't fit me anymore, ok just by itself but still tight around the shoulders but over a leather jacket it's a no go. So I've decided to buy another cutoff and transfer all my old badges, those that can be transferred that is, the 500 ones won't make it and for some reason that kinda upset me. So I decided to see if they were still available to buy and no they are not. Bummer.
With that in mind I looked around and frankly the badges that are around are pretty bad. So I thought of having some made, properly made, sew on, with proper background not felt, proper embroidery etc. The question was what design should I go for, same as the old one or something else. I decided to go for the side panel badge, it's sort of unique, got colour in there and anyone seeing it knows what bike you like or own. So I send a pic of the badge to a specialist firm and they are going to do a mock up of how the badge will look. I struggled with the background colour TBH, the edge of the badge is black so I thought black background would be out, not enough contrast. However after discussing it with the firm they say the background would be black twill, the edge of the badge in black embroidery and then the rest in chrome and orange like the badge itself. May go for the edges of the badge in gold. They'll be 150 x 50mm so not huge but approx the same size as the badge.
It's the cost of them that concerns me however, minimum order is for 10 but if you increase it to 25 the cost halves per badge and for 50 it's a quarter of the cost.
So I thought I'd see if anyone would be interested in buying these badges when they are made, I'll buy them anyway, I'm not relying on uptake here, I can put any excess on Ebay I suppose.
So, any thoughts? except of course how sad I am for thinking of wearing my cutoff again, you don't need to say it, I know. I'm reliving my youth and I make no apologies for doing that. Roo, shut up before you say anything.
Post by: Johnwebley on July 28, 2023, 05:30:52 PM
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Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2023, 05:43:37 PM
Anoying thing was they didnt tell you which caption you won with!!
Post by: Oddjob on July 28, 2023, 06:50:16 PM
Any pictures?
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Not yet John, I have to accept the quote first and then they'll do a couple of digital designs, I choose the one I want and they make them. Just imagine a side panel badge mounted on a small piece of cloth and you should be close.
To accept the quote I have to decide what amount to order, hence why I was seeing if they'd be any interest. Might just take a chance and order 50 and sell the ones I don't use.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 29, 2023, 01:12:06 AM
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Post by: Oddjob on July 29, 2023, 02:56:44 AM
Will you be getting any with white roses incorporated in the design Ken?
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I want them to sell Roo, so no, heaven forfend.
However you have given me an idea for something.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 29, 2023, 10:43:58 AM
Any nomenclature similarity between living people or members is completely coincidental.
Post by: Oddjob on July 29, 2023, 07:29:07 PM
Once I have some concept pics I'll post them, cost if you're interested will be around £6-8 depending on whether I go with metallic thread on parts of the badge.
Post by: Oddjob on August 03, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
Don't forget, these are just 2D digital images, the real badges are fully embroidered so the side panel badge part will stand away from the backing twill or cloth.
This is the way it looks now. The background is this material. Just so you can get a visual of the finished badge. I thought black would be better at first but then the edge of the badge gets lost with black on black etc and I wanted a colour that wouldn't show dirt that badly.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zqq6gpX7/IMG-3315.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvVKtgxw)
The gold border is this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJd174Ln/IMG-3319.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Q09Rb9f)
The chrome lettering is done is metallic thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLwqtMJH/IMG-3316.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDgdGNzK)
The orange F part in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXY8LsHc/IMG-3318.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2Vy3HF3n)
And these are the final images for me to chose between.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjv6Dycg/IMG-3314.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kD5QWSNt)
I asked them to change the odd bits on the border, the little pinched bit on the 5 and the outline of the F to reflect what the actual badge looks like, it's surrounded by a raised chrome border. This arrived this morning.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMvfsfQY/IMG-3313.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ny76k7PR)
I now have to chose which version looks the best. Hence why I'm posting. The bottom pic is closer to the actual badge but the top pic has the F part better defined.
What do you think?
Post by: Oddjob on August 03, 2023, 04:08:08 PM
How about a "sohc members" badge with crossed swords for dueling between Centurions with a Latin motto underneath "Kynus v Gyrhus" os something phonetically similar. Or our site moderator as Umpire Independus.😁😁😁
Any nomenclature similarity between living people or members is completely coincidental.
Not a bad idea Ted, we could maybe think about a SOHC members badge, maybe in cloth and metal. It's just the artwork that may be a bone of contention.
Suggestions anyone? We clearly can't have one for each model but maybe we could have the most common, 400, 500, 550 and 750.
Post by: taysidedragon on August 03, 2023, 05:58:50 PM
Post by: Oddjob on August 03, 2023, 06:24:14 PM
I would definitely buy a 400four badge in the side panel font, maybe a SOHC one as well. Great idea. 👍
If these go well I'll think about doing a 400 four one as well.
Gold lettering? on what colour background though, black might be nice. Good contrast. Or maybe so many red, blue and yellow?
Post by: philward on August 03, 2023, 08:57:07 PM
Just got the artwork through from the manufacturers.First one in my opinion Ken - I'd have one of those please
Don't forget, these are just 2D digital images, the real badges are fully embroidered so the side panel badge part will stand away from the backing twill or cloth.
This is the way it looks now. The background is this material. Just so you can get a visual of the finished badge. I thought black would be better at first but then the edge of the badge gets lost with black on black etc and I wanted a colour that wouldn't show dirt that badly.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zqq6gpX7/IMG-3315.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvVKtgxw)
The gold border is this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJd174Ln/IMG-3319.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5Q09Rb9f)
The chrome lettering is done is metallic thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLwqtMJH/IMG-3316.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDgdGNzK)
The orange F part in this thread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXY8LsHc/IMG-3318.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2Vy3HF3n)
And these are the final images for me to chose between.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjv6Dycg/IMG-3314.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kD5QWSNt)
I asked them to change the odd bits on the border, the little pinched bit on the 5 and the outline of the F to reflect what the actual badge looks like, it's surrounded by a raised chrome border. This arrived this morning.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QMvfsfQY/IMG-3313.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Ny76k7PR)
I now have to chose which version looks the best. Hence why I'm posting. The bottom pic is closer to the actual badge but the top pic has the F part better defined.
What do you think?
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Post by: Athame57 on August 03, 2023, 11:02:47 PM
Unfortunately I will have to pass on this one Ken. I still have my old bodywarmer (remember them, Barry Sheene used to wear one over his race leathers) that I used to wear to Wimbledon Speedway back in the 80’s, it is full of the metal badges I used to buy at the time including the ‘Happiness is 40-38’ classic :DBody warmer, that's what I had for a long time. The best had a lot of Suzuki and RG500 badges on it, my steeds of the day. Alas, no pics because I lent it a GF at just the wrong time, we parted ways and I never saw it again. (the body warmer I mean! In a way I lost two body warmers! ;D )
Post by: Athame57 on August 03, 2023, 11:04:59 PM
I would definitely buy a 400four badge in the side panel font, maybe a SOHC one as well. Great idea. 👍Me too!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 03, 2023, 11:14:42 PM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 04, 2023, 09:35:06 AM
I would definitely buy a 400four badge in the side panel font, maybe a SOHC one as well. Great idea. 👍
+1
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 04, 2023, 06:46:36 PM
They said it was copyright Honda.
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Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2023, 07:11:17 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 07:26:24 PM
I was banned from cafepress a while back for making 500 Four t-shirts using a photoshopped version of the side panel badge.
They said it was copyright Honda.
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I had a similar issue with using the registered brand name Viton. Last year, someone reported me to Ebay for selling O rings advertising them as Viton, which they are and I couldn't understand how I couldn't call them Viton, when they were. The Viton brand name is owned by Chemours in USA. I had to get my business lawyer on the case to sort the issue with both Ebay and Chemours as I was threatened with prosecution. I now have an email from Chemours stating I can use the registered trade name of their product. I also had an apology from Ebay. Lawers don't come cheap but it was worth it in the end.
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 04, 2023, 07:55:37 PM
You also run the risk of being prosecuted for allowing counterfeit goods to be sold on the forum ;)
As Mr Zuckerberg will tell you, currently the hosting company or app cannot be prosecuted for stuff that members may post. As long as they can prove that they have effective moderation policy and act to remove illegal content they are home and clear.
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Post by: K2-K6 on August 04, 2023, 08:35:12 PM
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Oops ! I've just copied that, think it must be copyright protected :)
Post by: K2-K6 on August 04, 2023, 08:45:03 PM
Post by: Oddjob on August 04, 2023, 08:46:44 PM
My badge isn't the same as the original badge, it's just a collection of letters and numbers arranged in a certain order using a similar font. It's also cloth not plastic, it's also worth noting that you cannot seem to find non genuine tank badges but there are plenty of side panels badge copies circulating and advertised on Ebay, you can also buy 500 aftermarket side panel badges sold by DS and we all know he doesn't fall foul of Hondas legal dept.
Roo I spotted this the other day when I was originally looking, not as good as mine should be and more expensive as well, plus only the F part is embroidered so when it gets washed the printing will fade over time.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263386731879?hash=item3d53129567:g:ZNMAAOSwIJlaMctT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8LdznWBP6ikjagyApCdu9xRHfox307nIoNB%2BxzLZjcROM%2BDsFDN%2FON5l4JdlwNhoW%2FamD7v6Rl%2FaLPiC0%2FNX%2F3lr%2FkV3NCQtBk2HpMTeJTUFxuVUbWg0BvGvXFVqmZLZYeqL8EoysIpFAoC2pZbSnRfqC14Inu8DRfSXjYOPDNJX0jukYGs5R5faEUgxtQX8rgvmRNOv%2Fax%2BKsBTG7FbR0D65aPTnI5xOyBuTxiFW206fz6wr3tJUhihSOPNlFc%2FHBa%2BfsgqUppqdmoQ3c%2B37nUqKn%2B9aJt9Db3WTzU4XLMadscZl7ExyhZ4gTnRHFXwlA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6KPzK60Yg
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2023, 08:51:41 PM
This is interesting read too https://fabrikbrands.com/copyright-vs-trademark/ and whether the 500 Four on this badge is protected without having "Honda" also there, that may be more nuanced.
You can buy a copyright from Honda under a licence ;)
Post by: K2-K6 on August 04, 2023, 09:02:48 PM
Example, buy a surprisingly expensive bar of chocolate from Ken, and you will get a free badge of his choice thrown in ;)
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2023, 09:18:31 PM
Honda seem to strenuously protect the Honda logo, which as you say Nigel is a Trademark not copyrighted. Plus my daughter has just been made a partner in a large law firm so she can always defend me ;D ;D ;D
My badge isn't the same as the original badge, it's just a collection of letters and numbers arranged in a certain order using a similar font. It's also cloth not plastic, it's also worth noting that you cannot seem to find non genuine tank badges but there are plenty of side panels badge copies circulating and advertised on Ebay, you can also buy 500 aftermarket side panel badges sold by DS and we all know he doesn't fall foul of Hondas legal dept.
Roo I spotted this the other day when I was originally looking, not as good as mine should be and more expensive as well, plus only the F part is embroidered so when it gets washed the printing will fade over time.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263386731879?hash=item3d53129567:g:ZNMAAOSwIJlaMctT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8LdznWBP6ikjagyApCdu9xRHfox307nIoNB%2BxzLZjcROM%2BDsFDN%2FON5l4JdlwNhoW%2FamD7v6Rl%2FaLPiC0%2FNX%2F3lr%2FkV3NCQtBk2HpMTeJTUFxuVUbWg0BvGvXFVqmZLZYeqL8EoysIpFAoC2pZbSnRfqC14Inu8DRfSXjYOPDNJX0jukYGs5R5faEUgxtQX8rgvmRNOv%2Fax%2BKsBTG7FbR0D65aPTnI5xOyBuTxiFW206fz6wr3tJUhihSOPNlFc%2FHBa%2BfsgqUppqdmoQ3c%2B37nUqKn%2B9aJt9Db3WTzU4XLMadscZl7ExyhZ4gTnRHFXwlA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6KPzK60Yg
It is not just the Honda logo, it can be a bearing, decals without the Honda word on it and so on. It also depends on the county of manufacture and were it is sold from.
Post by: Oddjob on August 04, 2023, 10:21:38 PM
Mine is roughly the same as Supermarkets selling own brand stuff that looks almost the same as the brand name but it isn't.
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2023, 11:24:01 PM
Well as DS are selling copies of these badges I think I'm safe.
Mine is roughly the same as Supermarkets selling own brand stuff that looks almost the same as the brand name but it isn't.
Is Sliver sell them then, he will have a licence in place with Honda to do so. DSS have been taken to court quite a few times by Honda so, Sliver has learnt the power of the Honda lawyers.
Bryan used to deal with a company in Canada that did decals and i know they were fined a large amount of $$$$
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 04, 2023, 11:29:28 PM
Sugar free of course though
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Post by: Oddjob on August 05, 2023, 01:10:31 AM
They don't appear to have trademarked any of the words you'd expect, 750 four also isn't trademarked. They did trademark the letter H though but it only applies to anything resembling their version of the letter or we couldn't use the letter H in any writing, which of course would be ridiculous, you cannot trademark something in common use. For instance the soap powder Surf is trademarked but if I was to say I want to go and surf they can't do anything about that, if I was to have a badge made saying born to surf, they couldn't do anything.
Post by: Trigger on August 05, 2023, 05:47:52 AM
I have a Business lawyer that specialises in patent and Copyrights for a reason. You can not even have crank cases made in the UK that are registered by Honda, When i was doing loads of crank case repairs i looked in to it.
Post by: Sesman on August 05, 2023, 07:05:06 AM
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 05, 2023, 09:18:47 AM
Kin hell. Is the balm eater going to jail or not? Careful in the showers Ken…..Think he’s gone to ground to hide from the ‘badge making Po-Po’ in case they get a tip off and come looking. There’s probably a crowd of ‘Honda peasants’ and associated villagers collecting at his gate, bearing farming hand tools and flaming torches, shouting for justice
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 05, 2023, 10:06:42 AM
Copyright can be far reaching.
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Post by: K2-K6 on August 05, 2023, 12:43:08 PM
More correctly Mrs K will sub it out to me ;D I'm good for "Dundee" type cakes after plenty of practice.
Well it may be Dundee, but probably that's food of regional origin now, with London made dundee cake likely to infringe some law, somewhere. Dont grass me up if you get caught with illicit dundee cake.
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 05, 2023, 12:57:39 PM
I'll get Mrs K to bake you a cake with a hacksaw blade inside Ken .
More correctly Mrs K will sub it out to me ;D I'm good for "Dundee" type cakes after plenty of practice.
Well it may be Dundee, but probably that's food of regional origin now, with London made dundee cake likely to infringe some law, somewhere. Dont grass me up if you get caught with illicit dundee cake.
;D ;D ;D ;D
;)
Post by: Oddjob on August 05, 2023, 03:09:55 PM
"I've just received a cake by Nigel
He makes the bestest cakes, does Nigel"
Post by: K2-K6 on August 05, 2023, 03:50:36 PM
I was at a social event the other week, one in three of the breed in attendance, highly unusual :) a bus driver, a plumber and engineer no less.
On a more serious note, I've spent most of my driving life speeding to try and get the average speed of the breed higher than most observers would think appropriate.
Patron Saint, Nigel Benn, environmental spokesperson Nigel Planer, Posh Totty Nigel Havers, breed treasurer Nigel Lawson, super Posh Totty Nigella Lawson, with cakes on top !
Watch it ! We're organised you know. And, of course, a prime minister in Nigel Farage ;D ;D :D
Post by: K2-K6 on August 05, 2023, 03:57:05 PM
Post by: Oddjob on August 06, 2023, 02:44:57 AM
I never mentioned Trademark :o It will be under Patent and copyright law . As i have already mentioned, Honda have lots of parts under patent laws in the UK including Bearings, decals and many, many other parts that don't have the word Honda on them ;)
I have a Business lawyer that specialises in patent and Copyrights for a reason. You can not even have crank cases made in the UK that are registered by Honda, When i was doing loads of crank case repairs i looked in to it.
I really think you're reaching here. A patent is to stop people making the same product, mine is clearly NOT a side panel badge. It's like the owner of a telephone claiming any toy telephones for kids to play with infringes his patent.
As for making crankcases, REALLY???? The cost would be enormous just to have the mould made, not to say how much they'd cost if you cast, then there's the engineering going into all the bearing surfaces etc. For the demand you'd never get your money back, far cheaper to just buy a second hand set or even a new set from Honda. Seriously, I've heard better stories on Jackanory.
Nigel, you forgot Nigel Mansell.
Post by: Trigger on August 06, 2023, 06:51:07 AM
Yes Ken, you can just go to the spares department and find another set of Sandcast CB750 cases, to replace the ones your working on, that are passed the point of repair :o
Very easy to make another set, when you have the right contacts and we have a member on this forum who is a well known patternmaker that has just made some 1915 Gladiator cylinder block and head. after he has done his magic, it is just a bit of machine work with the correct tooling. ;)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 06, 2023, 11:13:21 AM
In the used car section of the showroom we had an illuminated genuine used BMW sign & our adverts in the local paper would show the BMW logo at the top of our cars for sale listings.
All went well until we had a stop & desist letter from BMW legal department giving us a time limit to remove the sign & stop using the BMW logo in our adverts. After legal advice the sign was removed and the used cars for sale no longer showed the logo - we could use the BMW letter for model descriptions only.
Post by: taysidedragon on August 06, 2023, 11:37:41 AM
When I was in the car trade circa 1978/9 I worked for a Mitsubishi Dealer (marketed at the time as Colt) in Derby who also specialised in used BMW's. There was no BMW dealer in Derby at that time so selling late used BMW's was a good move as there was a large demand.
In the used car section of the showroom we had an illuminated genuine used BMW sign & our adverts in the local paper would show the BMW logo at the top of our cars for sale listings.
All went well until we had a stop & desist letter from BMW legal department giving us a time limit to remove the sign & stop using the BMW logo in our adverts. After legal advice the sign was removed and the used cars for sale no longer showed the logo - we could use the BMW letter for model descriptions only.
That's a very different situation Ted, using the manufacturers actual logo and sign. That implies that the dealer was a real BMW agent. Misleading the public.
Ken is not using the Honda logo. The embroidered badge copies a Honda side panel design, we know that it is not made by Honda. He could still get a letter from the Honda legals if they find it on a members only forum and they think that a few badges that they don't make themselves are worth the effort.
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Post by: Oddjob on August 06, 2023, 02:28:09 PM
Steve did not say it was copyright, he said CafePress said it was copyright and they may have just said that in the slight off chance it was to avoid any legal disputes. That's a totally different proposition. The manufacturers of my badge are aware it's a side panel badge, I supplied a pic of a real one so they could see what it looked like. They haven't mentioned copyright and you'd think they would if they were worried. I'm actually wearing a T shirt today with a big Honda logo on it, a pic of the 500-4 and underneath a side panel badge logo, not a single TM in sight, no label saying made under copyright etc. My son bought it for me off Ebay.
As I also said, I checked all the copyrights that Honda have registered and it's not registered, I doubt Honda are worried about a bike they no longer support (even though Sochiro Honda said they would always support past bikes) it's a 50 year old bike, no one is interested except us sad buggers.
Post by: Oddjob on August 07, 2023, 11:02:28 PM
I'll post a pic from my prison cell ;) ;) when I'm not getting bummed that is
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Post by: K2-K6 on August 08, 2023, 09:01:18 PM
I'm well practiced as Mrs K2 is rather partial to a nice Dundee cake, keeps me in the good books on household brownie points you'd understand ;D
Interestingly, not all cases pass as the originators feel they should https://www.autoweek.com/news/trucks/a33512240/land-rover-loses-defender-trademark-suit-to-ineos/ with this one a loss for the company complaining/seeking protection. Nuanced is the law and just how it's applied practically, illustrated here.
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 08, 2023, 09:19:50 PM
Ill be mixing with a Kenwood Chef tm perhaps some generic mixed fruit and peel, those sultanas all look the same to me :) McDougals tm flour or some that does look indistinguishable from this.
I'm well practiced as Mrs K2 is rather partial to a nice Dundee cake, keeps me in the good books on household brownie points you'd understand ;D
Interestingly, not all cases pass as the originators feel they should https://www.autoweek.com/news/trucks/a33512240/land-rover-loses-defender-trademark-suit-to-ineos/ with this one a loss for the company complaining/seeking protection. Nuanced is the law and just how it's applied practically, illustrated here.
Very interesting story Nigel. Harley Davidson tried to patent the 'potato potato' sound made by the exhaust of their bikes which they said was unique and shouldn't be copied. The judge threw it out after taking advice that all V-Twins make a similar sound to a Harley! We had a very small convenience store open up around here and it looked exactly like a M&S right down to the font used on the shop front. It lasted a couple of months before the real M&S had it closed down!
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Post by: Oddjob on August 25, 2023, 01:00:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lYNgCVwFo
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Post by: Oddjob on August 25, 2023, 06:37:29 PM
Here's what they look like. The gold around the edges looks a little faded in the pic than in real life.
They are approx 6" in length by 2" at the widest point.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x8WHJ2jZ/IMG-3351.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PvQN90wb)
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Post by: Oddjob on August 26, 2023, 11:31:35 AM
Anyone wants one it’s £5 plus £1 p&p. As many as you like for the same postage. I’ll list them on eBay for around £8 I reckon.
Checked the other night with an original badge and they got the dimensions perfect, lay one over the other and they are an almost perfect match.
The picture doesn’t do it justice tbh, it looks much better in the flesh.
Drop me a PM if you’re interested.
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Post by: Oddjob on August 27, 2023, 05:30:40 PM
Oh and don't forget a needle and thread.
Jesus, getting expensive to buy one of these badges.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 28, 2023, 01:47:25 PM
Buy a badge and then you have to buy a 500, you know it makes sense.;D ;D
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Post by: Oddjob on September 01, 2023, 03:32:38 AM
Just need to sell a load more now.
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 01, 2023, 11:14:22 AM
Post by: Bryanj on September 01, 2023, 03:49:42 PM
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 01, 2023, 04:05:33 PM
And whats wrong with that, im sure there are many that need a loving home!Problem is Bryan, needs to be right price for right bike. Difficult getting both!🤣🤣
Post by: Bryanj on September 01, 2023, 04:08:28 PM
Post by: Oddjob on September 01, 2023, 04:13:19 PM
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 01, 2023, 06:03:06 PM
If you buy a badge, you get the motivation for buying a 500, free. It's a win win.I’m sure you must have sold sand to that Arabian people at some stake Ken? 😂😂
Post by: Bryanj on September 01, 2023, 08:45:35 PM
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 02, 2023, 08:49:42 AM
No but the eskimos loved the ice cream🤭🤭