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Misc / Open / Reclaiming an old damaged CB550F2/K3 rotor cover
« on: August 10, 2023, 02:50:56 PM »
Wasn't sure where to put this TBH, thought maybe start a project thread as this won't be the first casing I'll be trying to salvage but it will do here at present.

So here's the idea. I wanted to see if stuff that we think is maybe beyond saving can actually be restored to near to new. Not saying new or better than new, but maybe close to new.

The idea came about when I spotted an old box sitting on the top of one of my cupboards in the garage, I was looking for something else and thought that maybe I'll put it in the box, even though TBH I couldn't remember what was in the box So I got it down and when I opened it there were 2 500/550 oil pans or sumps in the bottom of the box, fully restored, all clean and ready to be ceramic coated. However on top of the them was an old CB550 rotor cover, I have a CB500 so I wouldn't be using one of these, main difference of course is that the 500 has a removable plate covering the field coil fixing screws, the 550 hasn't got this and has them exposed with the Honda logo embossed into the alloy. A little research showed that these covers aren't readily available and if you can find a NOS one it's not far off £200, so fixing one can save you a lot of money.

The cover was damaged, clearly the bike it was on had slid down the road, first on the lower edge and then when it had almost stopped onto it's side, the lower edge and the upper part where the logo is were both damaged, I'll let you decide how badly you think it's damaged, personally I'd class that as light to medium but make up your own mind. The rest of the casing was encrusted with really bad crud, not so much corrosion as baked on road dirt that was really hard. However this coating can hide a multitude of damage and it's not uncommon to find severe corrosion underneath.

Here's what I started with.



Close up of the lower edge damage. Notice how the Made In Japan engraving has been smeared across, some of the metal removed was actually forced down into the letters and proved a problem later on.



And the upper surface damage.



I'll do a separate post for each step to keep it tidy.

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CB500/550 / Cutoff denim jacket and patches
« on: July 28, 2023, 05:01:07 PM »
I found my old cutoff in the wardrobe the other day, had badges on there that would be rare now, stuff long gone, like an Ogri badge or a Bike magazine badge, plus old club membership badges etc. A lot of these were either sew on or iron on. The sew on ones still look great, not so much the iron on ones. My favourite bike has always been the 500-4 and there are 4 iron badges from the 70s depicting this bike, they say something like Honda 500 four, they were made of felt with printed letters IIRC, when the jacket got washed the felt contracted and distorted the badge, the edge lifted and you could see the glue underneath still attached to the denim, not a great look.

The cutoff doesn't fit me anymore, ok just by itself but still tight around the shoulders but over a leather jacket it's a no go. So I've decided to buy another cutoff and transfer all my old badges, those that can be transferred that is, the 500 ones won't make it and for some reason that kinda upset me. So I decided to see if they were still available to buy and no they are not. Bummer.

With that in mind I looked around and frankly the badges that are around are pretty bad. So I thought of having some made, properly made, sew on, with proper background not felt, proper embroidery etc. The question was what design should I go for, same as the old one or something else. I decided to go for the side panel badge, it's sort of unique, got colour in there and anyone seeing it knows what bike you like or own. So I send a pic of the badge to a specialist firm and they are going to do a mock up of how the badge will look. I struggled with the background colour TBH, the edge of the badge is black so I thought black background would be out, not enough contrast. However after discussing it with the firm they say the background would be black twill, the edge of the badge in black embroidery and then the rest in chrome and orange like the badge itself. May go for the edges of the badge in gold. They'll be 150 x 50mm so not huge but approx the same size as the badge.

It's the cost of them that concerns me however, minimum order is for 10 but if you increase it to 25 the cost halves per badge and for 50 it's a quarter of the cost.

So I thought I'd see if anyone would be interested in buying these badges when they are made, I'll buy them anyway, I'm not relying on uptake here, I can put any excess on Ebay I suppose.

So, any thoughts? except of course how sad I am for thinking of wearing my cutoff again, you don't need to say it, I know. I'm reliving my youth and I make no apologies for doing that. Roo, shut up before you say anything.

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Site Feedback / FAQ / How to... / Topics going missing
« on: July 26, 2023, 04:07:00 PM »
Is it just me or are topics I'm getting notifications for going missing? 2 days ago I got one about a petrol cap vent, clicked on the link, not there. Today I got one which was a topic I looked at yesterday, might even have answered on it and clicked the link and it's gone again. If it's been deleted for some reason can't we get a notification saying that instead of not there son.

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Member 4 Sales / O-Ring sale CB500/550
« on: July 14, 2023, 08:48:12 PM »
As promised in my measuring oring thread I have managed to start supplying orings for certain parts of the CB500K and CB550F/K. Please check with me first if your not sure if the rings will fit your particular bike.

The range is still fairly small but it will expand as time goes by. I need to buy in bulk in order to get prices as low as possible and the initial outlay is well over £1000. As the new rings start to arrive I'll expand the list.

If the rings come into contact with modern petrol they will be Viton™ rings, if they don't they'll be Nitrile.

Oil Pump kit, 5 rings included. The first batch though will have 6 rings. There will be 1 x Oil Pressure relief valve 91315-044-000,  2 x Dowel rings 91301-268-020, 1 x oil pump to crankcase 91302-250-010, 2 x Oil Pump cover rings (these are not listed by Honda) this is because it's this ring I'm still assessing, I have 2 members testing which is best. However I'll provide both and you can decide which you prefer until I get some feedback either way on which works the best. All the orings are the exact size required. I've taken pics of genuine rings fitted out of a full gasket kit and my rings and they are identical. I can safely say this is the best kit out there. Cost £7 inc P&P. DS want £15.83 plus P&P for the 4 rings that are available.

I also can do the 4 oil gallery orings, these are the 3 plugs which fit in the lower crankcase and the one which is fitted to the plug in the main oil gallery inside the generator cover. So 3 x 91315-044-000 and 1 x 91319-300-000. Cost £5 inc P&P. DS wants £16.06 plus P&P for these 4 rings.

I also have available.

Camshaft end cover cap rings, 91319-323-000. These are in Viton™. 40p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set

Dipstick oring 91354-702-000 30p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set

Starter motor end cap, 91309-300-000 40p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set

Starter Motor internal oring, 91206-286-158 40p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set

CB550F/K clutch adjuster bolt, fitted low down on the clutch casing. 91301-040-000 40p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set.

Tacho Drive and oil restrictor orings at base of barrel 91309-035-000 40p each plus P&P or free postage if ordered with any set

Coming soon will be tappet cover rings and inlet manifold rings, 91302-001-020, the EXACT size as specified by Honda. These have to be specially made to order.

Also a full carb set of orings in Viton™. Again specially made to order and the exact size needed. I've already tested the float bowl ring and this one stays inside the groove without needing glue, unlike any others I've fitted in the past.

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Misc / Open / Veritable bargains
« on: June 24, 2023, 03:21:52 AM »
There's taking the piss and then there's this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225330799896?hash=item3476c32518:g:wSYAAOSwMY5jtNnJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Mk7qx83MqxOYZnXyl4%2FL4hqF58g554BShmFvKUOvrDV%2B5cbESi1q15A%2F%2FNP4utsd5WhPbj2o5CphjjIdkjVX0o4r6o0U%2FHNzm8Oa9t2md2QGJv1lKYbNo8jNi7TBD9m6ZKiGWDYgbG68xvVJcR7%2FjLI8%2FIeMo%2FtEs%2FKCCK1GgrxFt4WERs%2F9C6aq%2F3hFH4VYp5XIbORavVJJ2ueP%2FYK0ku02br0jZJmhOMkfTGx3T%2FxTsj%2B14Sa%2FdB26HpnAVSFxuGQnPGfVzvDbCvKztHFZIaxO1tMQT3B%2FWAy%2BXWqE%2Bxu%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4be6LKdYg

If you're tempted I've got one you can have for £10 less than that AND I'll throw in free postage.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134604807070?epid=1023297749&hash=item1f57125b9e:g:tjoAAOSwvqtkgj6x&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4ANVkOCFbPKKd%2BRHRD8RZ2O6aQV%2BGoOh%2Bd0b5v43HqWQh%2Fi6eOZG4nAkoquOXeojb0ZPVyU0N0W7wHeA2rtyJ%2BgnGeTjNeGezdnURKCYNPdvtaUxFX8Dhv5DdIU%2BgduRyZuDjjbDjtQe6DcW8FDpG1zhGINraa0kC6ZpiBgPZKBnus9CNSeHKkkIfni2ipEWpDPZ6L6o2e3s3GrvBndsRw%2BA2n2JwHyTwQ5xY85l2lsGtPz%2F0Ky66M9Gj24JOgW%2Fd5O6lfBsF1Sm7Xok9VPV2RTU2KHpkVsprJablGutwVfr%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4agsbOdYg

Got 3 of these, £10 less each and you can have one with pleasure. I'll even throw in a free oring.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256074827159?epid=1123989947&hash=item3b9f3fc597:g:isoAAOSwDI1kX~BA&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Gvkj%2F18lKf%2B938vY3XrbqAdzcvWNy8b3BpTBd32w%2BMkQbjp6m%2FposfSJ7NK%2FAmdgdBb%2F9mBokYTfBr6Cz0baXpscJLjHgMpPQLxCcoa9IXUE5AzhzxnJXxS5j2HDLNjyMM6eVvrjLyW8qnJGLjzYiaKNc%2Bj4M33GNrfUaGjMw6L9v4MS%2Fsue2lXqyJMLtarubfm8uAQju%2BaYJigi1ZJx%2F6Be5s%2BJPaGRybQY0n89EV%2BjhWJOfrHPZnVGPPPYGA1Ww6rkZMua8f%2FAmnkCD0d0eikpy2VQvw3T85NmxurWPtt%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4ygsbOdYg

£52 for a single shell, I just sold a load of these, damn I wish I'd know they were worth so much. I still have some left though, lets say £40 a shell, bargain eh?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134570167277?epid=1123989947&hash=item1f5501cbed:g:Nd0AAOSwOpxkXp1r&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwPhxEJ2J9UGUHgLPUZAjiCy8yVuS1esTrE1JF9PJgWWEI5NzTeFVptxufvUhvf7mPcth3rDq%2BIOvCLTmBbCt6wzUnw9%2FLre0PofVqHn%2B5tjRJaIiqGvyojDsWvG%2BbwNR12EfbvkeW9gJD537sZRtevU2r4R6TuExDmB5FHTJ8SSz%2ByITw9i5CUU4DphfMOvCjMQfEpiZ3UBtHQiPTjuxL4g5UDe26CQsNgv6t1sYiJjHw98NQekS3mjRGJlhJ6745g%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4ygsbOdYg

£64 a shell, got some of these as well. Damn I'm sitting on a fortune and yellows aren't even as rare as blacks and I've got over a hundred of those.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354361280089?epid=1827715561&hash=item5281940659:g:LrMAAOSwFlNj-NOU&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwFFVMwGjg8%2BKAm50vP0ZUTuoc9Z%2FYMWa2uBaqEfRHYAfzuuAOWpJk57X2OO27h3jD6ElPUbPlCybXuL%2BNyekIEYUAOKVrjZb4t00MTjdY%2Fb9pJDWsiEHhAiy8D07VjoFWUNZ8j6nYrxSRtb8gT0xKcJobk%2Fr39qZNkF8XuaWE8o7hu2szkXVPZp8f1A8OK5RUCvULbyxUd1vDYD2jiW06AqTu9lKLAuM8p4INrXiR4XK6upMwBnJLOBmk5jEVLxjWQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_af47OdYg

£117 for a piece of twisted metal. I have one of these as well, yours for £100.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204097868683?epid=1723026401&hash=item2f852e538b:g:TjAAAOSwlTpj-NN4&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4EjIwwED8X6Mf7YhQqpJ7LIS4EuRos1rlilXSnM9rJ6HVBHTKyiw8A8d6XjzDyDOzKO3f2GmWT%2FWsF9aqmWUZMx7lUWZyKA3BlFQM72uczb3zuL07sRkkIoe2ik9Vae%2BppcBWh0f0qVK6v6MEbU1PwCpqelJs0EEtGyU%2FUQigZGPUPS%2Bdb3gqrXREKqzAXx8l4FT2bBIsD0zPyOcBU%2Bw2Sw2Yzs8BOrvW%2FDiUJ8clmPhGrbW60EqSyLon9glhNwC6P%2FU3FWGZAu2RVinmDUX8G6KEO%2Fmuh2r7FSOgXWrkkna%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_6f47OdYg

Speechless, I don't have one of these but for that price I'll sell you mine off the bike.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274890722631?hash=item4000c38d47:g:bgUAAOSwjphhCfXJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4EpCmNKfiVJZsnJYuka%2FcmepqiuMtW4TXF%2FlpJE8h7zinMTNwiqVk5VVLwLQ4Rmze0F5b5%2BTDUhQax3Rj4P5TtWBtBAfN5b6e1eV7HxWoQeDGDrx4exk5Ic0dTyXH4X7to4btw%2BAFXAcpJqLNZi0ReXxIFTTUJcNHD97iG7E%2Fmfcg9RQdWhrSN%2BKdrEeGCnyefIdziIOuHVnKib%2BeFvLQWkTzR2MvJsSNOzP5ZDhqe6Uj%2Bi5XRPMIpX51yWcQM%2BInzV9Af6KPXkycXI2KDYPymO64CrLCN6DwMJUtqgZt%2B%2F%2F%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-jSr7WdYg

I've thrown these away in the past. Oh for a time machine

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124553332441?hash=item1cfff506d9:g:MpYAAOSw~4tgCvXq&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKtDEl5kDmvlbaKug0eS0Wtiqo8eHCGJZwf7FRpclTMmqOOjegFo7rhQsQuGjdDfpQf%2BAxQWUIwg6tfNiRXpHKGrP4bQu0wXPgBHVje1ebttnnFr3R82vIMa93l8BNLfGQXBTCX%2FTG723nl2mITs4F%2BoPXnTi79WTOuVrv2N6XfNLXOyGL4y5zq70dhd%2BmkTCzWTQPtWGWsGa%2FASSFVfbwy2KB5uFUB6SB%2BB9ruZUZb8F9lsEKcO0GrBSg7MlaPRJA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5KT3rWdYg

HOW MUCH!!!!!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124399390671?epid=1428623497&hash=item1cf6c80fcf:g:b1YAAOSwmXJfkGJk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwJHTvzi1xNaX5zt36ZcHDgAcqWpBc%2FX5c0xuUNJEU8PScX6CWyS4EnyyG1kv2KiQqHF7iSyBtljVjiQ%2BNTV8UW9EsOXzcTah%2F%2B3Bl0YD4AEYb8Mbh5IHvbbL0r58y7bFOzJ394zlyknWHpqKzyI7rNZDqa1bAAL1hEX7TG7wMIjD3mMaHjHaKg3AhIUvriecMp3QTc203xS%2BtL0m7S3%2FIzuZC1ZlaJK9O11ak766EgDbh0iEMBJi9jP4MwO0VVYBXA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9LDrLadYg

You can buy a complete tensioner for that much.

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Misc / Open / Measuring O-Rings
« on: June 17, 2023, 03:57:19 PM »
I was looking for something else yesterday and found 2 old oil pumps for the 500/550 lying in the bottom of a huge box, I decided on a whim to restore them, both were complete except one has one of the small collars missing that have the bottom O-Rings around, will probably find one of those somewhere. So I took them apart and cleaned them both up, must say they cleaned up very nicely. However the O-Rings will need replacing so I decided I'd see if I can find them without having to buy genuine Honda. After recently seeing a tappet cover O-Ring provided by an Ebay seller which claimed to be a perfect replacement for a genuine Honda O-Ring and finding it so bad I couldn't trust using it, I decided this time to source my own. The problem though is that Honda are kinda sparse with the info for the oil pump, the pressure relief valve (both of which were stuck BTW, that's both oil pumps and 3 filter bolts now where the relief valves are stuck, that could be from standing so long, they've been in that box since before 1980 I reckon) is the only one listed with it's full info, 19.4 x 2.8mm. Honda state the big O-Ring is 47mm but no section is listed. Same for the 2 collar O-Rings, just 14mm is listed, no section. The O-Ring under the cap isn't even listed as being available and it isn't included even in a full genuine Honda gasket kit so that will require some thought.

I looked online on advise on how to measure an O-Ring, looked easy enough but nope that didn't work. The 47mm O-Ring now measures 52mm, the 19.4mm is the closest to being correct at 20mm, the 14mm is now 15mm. The other problem is, if the diameter has changed so has the section, being squashed distorts them over time. I measured them all and wrote down what I thought they were, then I remembered having a genuine bottom end set in the loft, so that came out and I measured a brand new non distorted O-Ring and they were quite different. None of the measurements I'd carefully taken were correct, which means the one not even listed will have to be carefully thought about. It's now a loose fit on the top of the pump, it fits inside the cap just fine but there doesn't seem to be any compression taking place when the cap is fitted with the old O-Ring, I reckon it must have been a tightish fit around the flange on the top of the oil pump when new, it must be slightly taller than the flange as well or it wouldn't seal too well.

So now I have some on order, I've done a few choices for the cap O-Ring, I'll see which one I feel is best.

One word of caution on buying none genuine Honda O-Rings, first off they are all nitrile rings (AFAIK) and unless the ring comes into contact with petrol that should be just fine to keep using. Viton is usually harder to compress, not a huge difference TBH, a normal ring is 70 and Viton tends to be 75 or 80. A number of the genuine Honda rings are also really odd sizes, that can normally mean they aren't available to buy from a UK manufacturer, the tappet cover is one, which is also the same ring as the inlet manifold rubbers, on a tappet cover is not absolutely vital to get a perfect seal but on an inlet manifold that's another matter. The one I was given to fit was so bad I ended up robbing an old one from a tappet cover and fitting the new one there instead. You cannot buy these rings off the shelf, you have to have them made specially and the minimum order is normally 500. It's the same for the pressure relief valve cap on the oil pump, it's such an odd size they don't make it anymore. Incidentally it's also the same ring that fitted to the 3 oil gallery bungs in the crankcase, that's why there are 4 of them in the gasket kit. You'd need to order 500 specially to get a perfect fit, that can be expensive.

I'm in contact with a large UK manufacturer of O-Rings about getting some rings specially made for me,  tappet covers and inlet manifolds will be one, the relief valve and oil gallery plugs will be another if I feel my replacement doesn't fit the bill well enough.

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Desperately Seeking!! / CB500 & CB550 exhaust clamps needed
« on: June 08, 2023, 02:11:47 PM »
As per my thread on my project I need 1 x CB500K exhaust clamp and 2 x CB550F/K exhaust clamps. Condition not important so long as they are still intact, no fins missing etc.

The difference between the 2 types is the back wall on the underside.

CB500K clamp



CB550F/K clamp, not 100 sure if the 550K is the same as the 550F but I assume it is.



Let me know if you can help and a cost inc P&P.

After checking on CMS it appears the CB550F/K use the same clamp but it has a 333 middle part number meaning it's off a CB400F model, never knew that. So I assume the 400 four clamp will be ok as well.

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Misc / Open / One for the electronics expert
« on: June 04, 2023, 04:11:26 PM »
I bought an Ultrasonic bath in January to use on a bank of carbs I was restoring, used the bath twice and the last time it blew with 2 loud pops. Contacted the Ebay seller who asked me to take pics of the PCB boards, the PCB mounted fuses have clearly blown and after much toing and froing they gave me a full refund. They also stated I could keep the bath, they didn't want it back. This got me thinking, could I replace the fuses on the board and get the bath working again?

One odd thing to note however, not sure if this is the case with all of them but mine refused to heat the liquid in the bath unless the vib motor was also running, this meant it was running around 90 minutes in total and could be the reason the fuses blew. Are they all like that? This is the one I bought https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314275396344

I'll heat the liquid in a pan on the stove in future so I don't need the vib motor going as long.

So are these fuses available to buy, if so where and what do I look for..









I was thinking of not demounting the old fuses, just tag onto the existing wires, saves risking the PCB being damaged by excessive heat. I'm fairly proficient at soldering BTW and have quite a few different sizes and heat ranges of soldering irons.

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Desperately Seeking!! / 500/550 advance retard cam wanted.
« on: June 02, 2023, 08:16:59 PM »
I don't need the entire advance/retard unit, just to central cam, I know these are removed for some electronic ignition system to be installed, not sure which systems do that. So I'm hoping someone has one lying around spare, my cam has some bad rust spots on it that have pitted the surface and I'm thinking those will chew up the points heels.

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Misc / Open / Found this in the shed.
« on: May 30, 2023, 04:04:44 PM »
Finally got around to dismantling my old shed whose roof collapsed some years ago, I'd already removed most of the bike stuff out of there a couple of years ago so all that was left was some really old stuff left on shelves etc.

I did find some old bike stuff though, couple of indicator bodies in really good nick, some tools and some stuff that was way past it's sell by date and was send to the big scrap house in the sky.

This made me chuckle though. Been a long while since I've seen any of this stuff. Still got some of their stickers on my Snap On tool box.



Even found some Cow and Gate baby food tins with parts inside and my twins are 35 years old today.

Plans now for a new 12 x 10 shed to be fitted where the old 8 x 8 shed was, then I can install my new bike lift and move the bikes back from the rented garage 2 streets away, saying that anyone got an idea on how high a bike is on a lift when it's fully up in the air? just so I can ensure the new shed has a high enough roof.

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Other Bikes / CB160 parts
« on: May 19, 2023, 03:57:12 PM »
Met an old bloke, 85, last night at a bike meet. We got chatting and he mentioned he'd had various old Hondas over the years with the last one being a CB160. He'd since sold it and bought himself a little monkey type bike (which he was riding that night) but he did mention he still had quite a few parts for the CB160 that he wanted to get rid of. He mentioned a tank and some cranks but I got the impression there were lots of other parts lying around. I mentioned the site and told him to pop on and see if they were of any interest to members on here who were restoring a CB160, are they? I have no idea of how rare these parts are or even if they have any value, if he fails to come on I may see him again next week and I can ask for a phone number if there is any interest.

Anyone interested?

He also mentioned a CB77 and a C100, I got the impression he still had the C100, 1965 I believe.

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CB500/550 / Carb spring pressures-info
« on: May 10, 2023, 02:05:05 AM »
I've just finished a bank of CB500 627B carbs for another member on here and oddly when they arrived I noticed the return spring wasn't standard. I asked where it had come from and was told that David Silver supplied it, if they did they no longer do as the original part number 16036-323-004 doesn't link to anything. I did note however how much lighter it was in operation.

After finishing the bank of carbs and oiling all the linkages I decided to test how much lighter it is in comparison to the standard spring. Results are quite interesting.

The non genuine spring is slightly shorter than the standard one and is quite stretched even with no throttle open, it takes 7lbs of pressure before the carbs begin to open.

In comparison, fitting a standard spring makes the throttle much harder, a hefty 14lbs of pressure required to get the carbs to start to open.

As an experiment I fitted a small 10mm stainless steel split ring and tested the standard spring again, just doing that reduced the pressure needed to 12lbs. Not a massive amount I'll admit but around a 14% reduction.

I tried the non genuine spring with the same split ring and that dropped it to 6lbs and the throttle felt extremely light, so light I was thinking maybe that's a little too light as it didn't exactly shut the bank down hard when it's let go.

Just goes to show how much pressure we are asked to provide to open the throttle on the 500/550, no wonder I had a bulging forearm but only on my right arm when I was younger. I do know it used to make my arm ache after a few hours.

A bigger split ring would reduce the pressure even further I reckon, there would be a limit though on how big, as you'd chance the spring coming off under fast contraction.

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I bought this some time ago and was surprised when I opened the packaging just how poor it really is, the paintwork whilst still good was very dull and lifeless looking, the finish on the castings was really rough and generally it just looked shabby. It wasn't rusty or had any corrosion on it at all, IMO that's just how they look, maybe the paint was better when it was brand new but if so age has really dulled it down. TBH I'd only bought the footrest for what I call the hero blob plate,(and of course I found the missing one after I bought it) this is a small plate that bolts to the bottom of the rubber footrest and has a small blob attached, it's commonly called these days a hero blob, the idea being that if you an get the bike that far over that these start to grind across the road surface you're a hero. Sad that isn't it. This plate is the main difference between the CB500K and the CB550F L/H footrests, I've had a CB550F L/H footrest fitted to my CB500K for many years and there is no difference in feel or location. I just liked the idea of saving the rubber from being scuffed to death on the road surface, I thought it looked unsightly and I'd rub them so badly they'd wear through to the steel pin inside.

So when I was getting some parts freshly powder coated I thought I'd spruce this footrest up, I stripped off all the dull paint, flatted the metal down so it looked smooth and had the pin and it's carrier done in gloss black. I didn't have the hero blob plate done. The rubber is of course still brand new, as are the screws that hold the plate on and the pivot pin. I have replaced the washer on the pin and the split pin with stainless steel ones, the split pin is now a stainless steel R clip. I still have the original washer and split pin and these will be included if you prefer the original look.

Here's a pic of a CMS footrest



And here's a pic of the one I'm selling.





The main advantage to fitting new is the way they hang, over time the pivot pin hole elongates and ovals, this allows the footrest to hang at a lower angle, follow another old bike and look at their footrests, it's very common to see them angling towards the ground so they don't sit at 90 degrees like they did when new. Also the pad on the footrest itself wears away due to the constant motion it's subjected to, only way to cure that is to have a blob of weld done and grind it back to shape, which is what I am doing with my own footrests.

You can see by the before and after pics how much brighter and fresher looking the newly powder coated one looks, not only does it look better but it will last far longer as well, no more unsightly rust forming within months of fitting. The pivot pin is a tight fit and has been well greased to stop any undue wear. The rubber has also has some lube on it so it will come off in the future with little problem when you need to replace the worn rubber.

CMS want £119 for this part, DS want £127 plus P&P and it's a special order.

I'll take £90 inc P&P and if you would prefer the hero blob plate to match the rest I'll replace it for one of mine done at the same time for £5 extra just to cover the cost of having the one fitted powder coated.

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Misc / Open / Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« on: March 16, 2023, 07:33:55 PM »
Fancied a drilled and slotted pair of discs for my 500 but can't find someone to do it. So after looking around I found someone who will do both discs for £58 approx and for another £10 will match a pic of another pattern if you find one he doesn't do.

So I spotted this pattern on ebay for cast discs and thought it looked ok. What do you think? Sent it to the fella who's doing the job and he reckoned he'd need another box of 5mm holes  ;D ;D ;D


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Misc / Open / Rear damper oil
« on: March 15, 2023, 06:26:32 PM »
I need to refill my refurbished Marzocchi AG Strada rear dampers, according to the blurb it's supposed to be Special Oil Marzocchi SAE5, you can't seem to buy that now. I contacted a dealer specialising in fork oils and such and he said not to use normal fork oil in dampers as it wasn't suitable. Yet, I've seen quite a few bottles of 5w oil which says it's for use in front suspensions and rear dampers. They can't both be right.

I have some Honda fork oil which I'm considering using, anyone else got any suggestions? I may go for 7.5 or 10w instead of 5w if that is hard to find.

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