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Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 22, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
Omg, I would look for another set rather than tackle that
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Casting look good inside though Pete ..no nasty water damage and part that main jets fit into look good I reckon. I have seen three sets of 500 carbs that looked pristine on the outside but old fuel and water ingress have rendered the bodies to be almost scrap.
Post by: Trigger on August 22, 2019, 10:54:55 PM
Looks like everyone is doing carbs at the moment. I have just finished a one set have another set to build and just stripped a 500 set. Yours should look like these soon ;)
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Post by: Trigger on August 23, 2019, 10:43:13 AM
When you got the new plate, did it come with the alloy arms x 2 ? The set I have just taken apart had one of the top arms broke and am looking for another.
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Post by: Trigger on June 09, 2020, 07:35:53 PM
When I investigated recently I found that the zinc plating on 400/4 steel carb parts was originally gold passivated finish. Anyone know if this was the case on early CB500/4's?
Yep, but not all the parts were yellow ;)
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Post by: Trigger on July 07, 2021, 06:27:39 AM
The bottom collar is 18231-323-000 fitted to the CB500 Four ;)
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 07, 2021, 12:58:17 PM
Nice to see the thread back up and running, isn't retirement great👍
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 07, 2021, 01:09:10 PM
Nice work Ken. 6 hours to clean and polish each clamp is dedication! Hopefully the hard work will pay off and may your clamps never rust again😊.
Nice to see the thread back up and running, isn't retirement great👍
I would have been tempted to just leave them in a tub of Evaporust for a few days - lightly brushing with a paint brush every 12 hours or so.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 23, 2021, 02:50:22 PM
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment".
"We are our choices"
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 23, 2021, 07:56:34 PM
How far off are you with your project Ash, I was thinking if you have a later style camcover
I am OK thanks Ken .. The only later cam cover I had was the one I sold to you. I managed to get a decent non-pinned shaft early cover with decent shafts for my 500K0.
Post by: Seamus on September 24, 2021, 08:46:09 AM
Keep the story going.
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 03, 2021, 11:29:32 AM
This forum is great 8)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on October 03, 2021, 06:52:31 PM
Yum.
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I keep joking I have OCD but in fact I don't, I just like perfection and will strive endlessly to try and achieve it, I do however always leave one part deliberately wrong, like the Japanese symbol, if I ever get perfection then there is nothing to strive for. I'm not 100% happy with the slider TBH, I thought it would be brighter but maybe it just needs more polishing. We'll see. Got some stainless studs for the spindle, stainless bolts for the oil drain and stainless fork caps along with the hard chromed fork stanchions, new dust covers as well, should look ok once assembled.
Very bling!
Post by: philward on January 02, 2022, 10:39:08 PM
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Prey tell Ken?
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Post by: Nurse Julie on January 03, 2022, 09:54:13 PM
I'mnot sure what you mean by pigtails Ken. Not herad that one before,what do you mean?I'm not sure what pigtails are but this is the type of attachment we use on the polisher for holding the mops etc.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2022, 09:59:01 PM
Nice one Julie,I didnt know they were called that,what a weird name to call it! I didnt even know they had a name. It's always, "Put them on't bench wheel"" not, "Go wind that onto those pigtails" not heard that reference before.
Cheers Julie x
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2022, 10:36:06 PM
Sorted though, happy bunny!
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2022, 11:06:07 PM
I've nothing set up on Mejima and never had so have no experience of the throttle strength, have they an issue with 'over officious' carb springs giving you a dead hand?
A spring that would allow that would be great if they do. The 400 is quite a hand ful too and The Long Haired General has passed comment on it being a bit strong, similar to the clutch being a bit of a pull. I've ordered a selection of cranked clutch levers to see if I can sort it or I may even swap some springs over with some milder ones I have from a Ducati basket I've got lying about. She's only tiny and finds it a bit of a grab, bless her soit needs a bit of a fiddle to get it right for her.
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2022, 11:07:30 PM
Post by: heli_madken on January 04, 2022, 03:33:17 PM
.... and to aid it I've been in touch with a Chinese spring manufacturer to see if I can get a carb return spring the same dimensions and look as the original but with a much lighter poundage....
Ken, Have you tried Lee Spring in Wokingham - https://www.leespring.co.uk/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3ezG4XRpFhEs8SFAWo55rx5dR6HhRYhQia3M99vMiq749VmU05j-_30aAn__EALw_wcB (https://www.leespring.co.uk/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3ezG4XRpFhEs8SFAWo55rx5dR6HhRYhQia3M99vMiq749VmU05j-_30aAn__EALw_wcB) They have millions of springs and can make to order. You can enter the dimensions of the current spring and choose the weighting you want, perhaps several for experimentation. Might be worth a try as it will be quicker than working with China
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 04, 2022, 04:21:18 PM
If you need a personal visit I’d be happy to help.
Steve
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 06:57:23 PM
cheers heli_madken
Post by: Seabeowner on January 04, 2022, 07:08:47 PM
But I just fitted a small strong keyring between the spring and the top fitting and still had to stretch into place. Been on one bike for nearly 20 years, I just occasionally check the throttle closes ok when I let go and check at a few bar positions.
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 07:55:16 PM
Surely wouldnt it be easier to have some cables made up once uyou know the required legnth Len, Failing that make your own, I think the kit I bought was only £15 or something daft. You didnt actually say what the mod was as that sounds the most satisfactory way of sorting it. If youre keeping it quiet until testing, no worries but interested in what ever it might be; I was thinking about poly welding some small plastic cutouts to the throttle tube so that I could vary the distance from closed to open but it got a bit complicated so thought about something else for a bit and then fprgot. Besides I'mmilesaway from there yet bu t at the stage of fitting thenew carb spring I ordered from DSS some weeks ago. Do you remember the picture of it bent up like an S from the PO? ;D
As for spring strength Roo, try this. Get the spring off your 550 in your hands whilst the carbs are apart. Try pulling both ends apart, it's surprising hard for such a small spring, ok you've got leverage with the throttle pipe but it's heavy enough for a softer spring to be really attractive. Even in my youth I got sore wrists after a few hours, so much so that fitting the Honda throttle grip retention setup was done on my 550 switch gear, the 750 and 500 got it as standard but after them they stopped fitting it, it's a god send on motorways as you just tighten it up until the throttle stays open and reduces the wrist ache considerably, in an emergency you can still close the throttle due to the pull/push cable arrangement. It can be fitted to both the 550 and 400 switches and is a fairly easy mod.
Ive read about thesebefore so i might revisit those blogs and have a look, thanks.
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 08:05:39 PM
Roo, check the cable routing on the 400, make sure it follows the PDI instructions perfectly, remove the cable and hang it up if possible, slowly drop silicon oil (and only silicon oil not normal oil) down the cable until it comes out of the other end. Check the cable first for rubbing spots, sometimes the inner cable can grate against the braided metal sheaving as it's get's worn inward. Grease the lever pivot pin, grease the actuating lever point on the clutch case as well. Everything must move with little to no effort, the 500 four is renowned for having a heavy clutch but mine was so light I could pull it with one finger, it's all about how it's setup. Test the cable when fitted but not attached to see if it feels like it's snagging or binding anywhere.
Thnaks for all that mate, I'll cast an eye but on the rebuild I've fitted NOS where I could but had to get pattern bits when I couldnt:-
New cables,
spring on the bottom in the cover plate,
new clutch and springs and plates,
new sleeve on crank case,
new lever and clamp.
I think its ok if a little on the firmer side but with Rae being so dinky, finds it a bit of a claw full so anything just to make it a bit easier will help immensly. I have since found the holy grail of the chrome ring that sits on the crank case breather cover the other day in the wrong drawer which I though was well lost so that might make a bit of difference once fitted. Apart from that is as the book describes on the fit. I checked all the cable lengths against all the old ones and the only differing one I had was the speedo as it was miles too long but apart from that all were spot on to fit as required.
I'll have another go before she comes off the ramp but worked great on her maiden voyage up the lane on the sly the other day ;D
Carb work required I feel, oh, and the silencer fitting 8)
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 08:16:38 PM
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Post by: Lobo on January 06, 2022, 08:23:50 AM
My grinder is a Bosch jobby with 150mm wheels, and due the local Bunnings selling a 150mm polishing wheel range I thought I’d stick with this versus your 200mm wheels. Thoughts there?
Cheers,
Simon
Post by: Seabeowner on January 06, 2022, 09:14:33 AM
The ring is not there to help put the spring in position. It is there so that the spring is not so stretched when in the closed position Therefore it will also not be so stretched when in the open positions = less effort to open.When the carbs are closed the spring still needs quite a bit of stretching to fit so they are very firmly closed.
But I just fitted a small strong keyring between the spring and the top fitting and still had to stretch into place. Been on one bike for nearly 20 years, I just occasionally check the throttle closes ok when I let go and check at a few bar positions.
I don't find it hard at all to fit the spring on the carbs BTW, spring puller works great.
On the subject of the throttle travel there is probably enough play in the cables of the 500 to increase the diameter of the throttle slightly. But there is not much clearance between the throttle and and parts of the lower clamp. But you could shave a mm or so off internally so it would not show and get 4mm on throttle dia. 14% less travel.
Post by: K2-K6 on January 06, 2022, 09:18:40 AM
Logic follows that they made the spindle rpm for linear cut speed of 150mm stones, and continued with same to size the mops. Increased diameter would usually require a motor with higher torque output to maintain speed under load too.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 08, 2022, 12:17:13 AM
When the position of the spring is fully extended at max throttle, hook to hook is 113.5mm
This might be +or- a mm only because it’s quite tricky to orientate, hold and measure but out of 5 measures the average came to the above number
Any other dims let me know bud.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 08, 2022, 12:25:10 AM
Hook to hook please Roo and same again fully extended, so full throttle.I was looking at those threads on Wednesday and ended up ordering 2 x 20mm JIS screws in an attempt to sort that very issue
Oh and the screws used by Honda to secure the carb top onto the body are too short, they quote 16mm but if you look inside the bottom of the screw hole you'll see there is LOADS of thread left unused, I fitted 20mm stainless JIS screws with a flat and spring washer and even then there was a few threads left untouched. It's no wonder these screw holes get stripped out.
Strange as the bolts used to hold the carb lifter brackets onto the bar are miles too long. What happens then is the bottom of the bolt starts to rust and if you need to remove it then the thread gets stripped out or damaged as it passes through. Same thing on the front of the rocker cover next to the tappet covers.
Hopefully the zinc plating will help things to last a bit longer and not rust with any luck. A good point well noticed though
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 11, 2022, 10:24:09 AM
Got a reply back from the manufacturer, he's recalculated the spring rate and at full throttle the pull is 7.94lbs, even at rest is 5.92lbs. Like holding a bag of spuds for a long while, no wonder it hurts after a bit.Well done Ken, good skills mate, see what turns up.
I've asked for a price for 20 at 50% spring rate and 20 at 75% spring rate, we'll see what the figures are like when they come back to me.
Brake plate looks ace, don’t be so critical, it looks fantastic
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 11, 2022, 01:02:13 PM
What's your Moto - Have buffing wheel will polish?
Post by: Seabeowner on January 12, 2022, 08:57:58 AM
The spring is already stretched quite a bit even in the closed position. The ring gives less stretch when closed and therefore less stretch when open. Hookes's law applies over this limited type of stretching. Stretch length directly proportional to weight required.The ring is not there to help put the spring in position. It is there so that the spring is not so stretched when in the closed position Therefore it will also not be so stretched when in the open positions = less effort to open.When the carbs are closed the spring still needs quite a bit of stretching to fit so they are very firmly closed.
But I just fitted a small strong keyring between the spring and the top fitting and still had to stretch into place. Been on one bike for nearly 20 years, I just occasionally check the throttle closes ok when I let go and check at a few bar positions.
I don't find it hard at all to fit the spring on the carbs BTW, spring puller works great.
On the subject of the throttle travel there is probably enough play in the cables of the 500 to increase the diameter of the throttle slightly. But there is not much clearance between the throttle and and parts of the lower clamp. But you could shave a mm or so off internally so it would not show and get 4mm on throttle dia. 14% less travel.
I'm not sure whether in fact the ring is helping at all, I'm thinking the effort required to stretch it remains the same anyway. Maybe I'm wrong, only way to know is to test it.
But the extra force required to open the throttle from one position to another position will not alter as that is determined by the spring rate so I'll add that a different spring rate will probably give a better result.
Post by: heli_madken on January 12, 2022, 05:51:11 PM
Sorry to hear about your health issues it sounds horrendous, all the more wonder at what you can achieve with all that polishing, it is actually quite tiring to do.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 13, 2022, 06:12:58 AM
The only funny part about this is when me and my daughter went to the first meeting. I introduced her as my daughter and they were as condescending as hell to her, she didn't say anything all meeting. At the end of the meeting they said hang on while we give you a copy of the notes, so whilst we were waiting for them to xerox them we had a little chat. And what do you do my dear they said, Oh I'm a partner in a large law firm in Manchester and I specialise in Industrial Diseases she said. Well the looks on their faces was worth a fortune, I still smile about it now. After that the next 3 meetings they were walking on egg shells around her. But by then the damage had already been done.
Oh and the Chinese manufacturer has quoted $200 for 20 springs. Not sure about that.
That first meeting sounds priceless - it's often the case that when you struggle with one aspect of your life like health issues something else happens to kick you in the teeth when you least need it. Hope it all works out for you Ken I really do. As they said in The Life of Brian song - always look on the bright side of life.Cheers Ted
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 13, 2022, 07:02:33 PM
The only funny part about this is when me and my daughter went to the first meeting. I introduced her as my daughter and they were as condescending as hell to her, she didn't say anything all meeting. At the end of the meeting they said hang on while we give you a copy of the notes, so whilst we were waiting for them to xerox them we had a little chat. And what do you do my dear they said, Oh I'm a partner in a large law firm in Manchester and I specialise in Industrial Diseases she said. Well the looks on their faces was worth a fortune, I still smile about it now. After that the next 3 meetings they were walking on egg shells around her. But by then the damage had already been done.
Oh and the Chinese manufacturer has quoted $200 for 20 springs. Not sure about that.
Blinder Ken, that made me laugh when I read it. ;D ;D
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Post by: K2-K6 on January 26, 2022, 01:25:55 PM
Probably worth a new thread if you want dedicated discussion of it.
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 26, 2022, 02:51:45 PM
If not bothered, I can copy the relevant posts into a new thread.
I had one of those quick action throttles in the 70s too. It pushed the grip about 1/2” down the bars as it fitted between the grip and the switchgear.
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Post by: K2-K6 on January 26, 2022, 08:50:32 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on January 26, 2022, 10:45:52 PM
Big market is MTB downhill bikes with monoshock rear suspension, pretty close in size to motorcycle rear (could get a size if you need) along with usual lb rate from 250~650 so plenty of wire guage is in general use.
Post by: Sesman on January 27, 2022, 07:42:31 AM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 27, 2022, 08:05:33 AM
Second the paramos. It’s the only paint stripper stuff I’ve found that behaves as advertised.
Yes it's great and at autojumbles it tends to be typically £25 a tin there. The 1st time I bought it, I quizzed the woman selling it, asking if it works OK, as she was recommending it over some cheaper unbranded stuff she was also selling. This was the reply .... 'I can tell you for sure that it works fine for removing paint, love... my daughter cadged a tin off me and threw it over the roof and bonnet of her ex-husbands car' ;D ;D
I have also used some stuff at £7/1 litre tin branded 'Final Systems' CS20 and that work well (gel type). OK if you don't want to buy a big tin.
I think any paint stripper that contains methylene chloride and formic acid (y'know the stuff in ant bites, that's why it stings like hell if you get a splash on your skin :-[ ;D), it will work pretty well.
All of the paramose I have bought from autojumbles is the runny type but evidently you can get it in gel form too
Post by: K2-K6 on January 27, 2022, 02:10:05 PM
Fair enough.
If you're interested in practical input though;- worked a bit on those some considerable years ago for travel and lightness of operation. A friend on 750 F2 amalgamated (from scrap yard) a 750 switch block by machining off the throttle chamber, then the opposite from a CB900 with the twin cables exiting in much more gentle arc to weld then finish a hybrid switch/throttle assembly. It may have used a larger diameter pull for the cables which made it quicker. The reduced friction from cable route seemed to give lighter response to allow faster travel without increase in twist grip weighting. Standard carb end was used though I recall.
The springs Honda use appear (yes an assumption) to be most in demand at low slide position when engine over run causes the slides to be most affected by vacuum and risk of not being closed. They look to have set the spring rate to counter this and ensure, for example, as you roll off the throttle from fast straight into a corner that they could be confident it wouldn't get stuck there.
Coil springs I understand as linear in rate. Which means that if you have to pull it at 2lb to travel 10mm then the next 10mm would require another 2lb. So spring linear response, but throttle grip accumilative to give that heavy feeling.
They may, with geometry (you'd have to check it) get the initial weight as they want it but with further travel cause the mobile end of the spring to move in an arc above the fixed end, and so deliver an accumulation initially but by not lengthening the spring further it would stay at that. Observation of existing would show that.
If the above isn't true and it keeps accumulating throughout travel, then it's problematic to reduce the overall spring rate as it will most likely affect competent closure of slides but not necessarily improve much.
What it could really do with (it won't fit in though) is a much longer spring application, that's just to let you use the initial rate through the whole pull as the spring moves a very small proportion of it's total accumulation with the carbs at full travel. That would give low end rate to close slides but not get any heavier in practical reality.
Someone (we were apprenticed in engineering) made smaller diameter "butterfly" for the main carb rod where the cables attach, in effect turning an new wheel and then milling off the surplus, but I don't know what happened to that.
Post by: taysidedragon on January 27, 2022, 06:00:53 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on January 27, 2022, 06:23:02 PM
The return is of course pushed back by the twist grip, but should always effectively have slack in it as they are non adjustable (certainly on 750) from Honda design.
If you've ever ridden a 750 with the little nylon sleeve down inside that first tight corner on the pull cable as it leaves the twist grip, then fully closing the throttle at higher revs gives a significant vacuum on the slides, such that it's hard to start the opening smoothly against that suck. As the revs come down you can feel it gets easier with vacuum diminishing. This area of use seems to demand most from the spring in automatic closing.
The earlier suggestion to use a "key ring" ? Will actually work as it simply puts less initial accumulated load on the spring before you even start to pull it open.
A functional test could be to remove the spring (not in riding use) and rig up a lightly tensioned bungy cord to the mech, this should demonstrate a long spring with low percentage movement (very low accumulation of tension over the range of use) to see what it feels like.
Post by: taysidedragon on January 29, 2022, 01:40:21 AM
Post by: K2-K6 on January 29, 2022, 04:59:01 PM
I've been working a fair bit on MTB bike suspension which has a lot of leverage ratio changes built in, but with adjustment to set up on some of them. Sit there looking at them thinking, right this travels that way, that moves there, so that must rise ?......right start again. Some of the swingarm run seperate from frame on two individual levers and so effectively float. Look like they'll collapse if set down on the floor, but incorporate anti squat during pedalling, running to soft mid range travel, then ramping up toward the end to take a big compression from jump landings. Coil springs using a rising rate with air springs needing a reducing rate linkage as they naturally accumulate higher spring lb as they are compressed.
A thought about throttle travel;- you could bring the nipple location much closer into the spindle, but leave the cable channel out at it's original radius. This would give you initially soft throttle just off idle but gain speed through progression the further you open it. In effect a progressive rate but with overall shorter travel.
You'd have to do the same for return cable too in avoiding potential conflict.
Post by: Lobo on April 02, 2022, 10:16:12 PM
Strangely I had a Voltmeter (0-20V declared range) that came in 4 colours jury rigged into my 400F, whilst I was trying to ‘understand’ the Voltage Regulator vs RPMs.
The highest voltage I saw was 14.2V, and yet the bloody thing blew in a very short time. Cheeky I know, but can I suggest you wind the voltage up to specified near max for a few minutes on the bench to check it didn’t come from the same Chinese shop…. before committing to buttoning the Speedo back up.
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 03, 2022, 04:34:25 PM
Very neat Ken.An 18v zener diode across the feed voltage with a suitable series resistor will protect it... Ken I can send you the bits if you wish.
Strangely I had a Voltmeter (0-20V declared range) that came in 4 colours jury rigged into my 400F, whilst I was trying to ‘understand’ the Voltage Regulator vs RPMs.
The highest voltage I saw was 14.2V, and yet the bloody thing blew in a very short time. Cheeky I know, but can I suggest you wind the voltage up to specified near max for a few minutes on the bench to check it didn’t come from the same Chinese shop…. before committing to buttoning the Speedo back up.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 03, 2022, 06:22:47 PM
The meter has 3 wires Ash, ones earth, ones feed and ones the voltage sensor. Which is best to protect it, I think feed but I'll defer to your judgement.
Can you send me details of the module Ken and then I can advise better.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 03, 2022, 08:53:48 PM
I'll send you one Ash, might be better.
OK ..Sounds good ... I will add mods for you and send back
Post by: Trigger on April 04, 2022, 12:01:36 AM
Parts fail, it’s a safeguard against that. Also an early warning indicator of when they start to fail. If it prevents even one incident of a roadside breakdown then it’s done it’s job. Plus I think it looks cool.
I’ve never been and never will be one of those who think that original must be best, my bikes are built to suit me and that includes changing anything that I consider to be wrong from the start, the single fuse on the 500 being a prime example, how anyone can think that’s a good idea is beyond me, if it blows the bike stops, if you can’t find the fault your either walking home or getting a mate out with a van etc. After having one blow in a dark country road in Devon one night whilst on my honeymoon and trying to fix that in the pitch black I vowed never to go through that again.
This bike will have a combined reg/rec, mosfet type, they are more reliable and better at controlling the output than the mechanical regulator Honda fitted. Plus the charging system is being updated to provide more power. The volt meter provides a way of monitoring the new system, to be honest I got the idea from Alan Millyard after seeing him fit one on his 6 cylinder Z1 Kawasaki, I liked the look of it in the video so decided to copy it for myself.
As for never seeing any problems on a standard system, how many 500 fuse wires have you seen melted, fuse holders almost falling apart due to burning. It’s not being set up right that’s the problem, it’s coping with parts well past their intended life expectancy, connectors going blue etc. Wires just breaking where they are crimped to the spade connectors, if just one of those happens whilst on a ride and you don’t notice, you risk an electrical fire at worst or a breakdown at best, seeing the voltage start to drop could warn you that there’s a problem, giving you time to head for home before it gets worse.
I have come to the conclusion that the standard electrics good and have never had a problem with them even when they are more than 30 years old. Out of the six SOHC's we have on the road, 3 of them run with a single standard fuse box
( non of mine show any signs of melting) and in the thousands of miles we have put on those bikes Julie has only been let down once with a flat tyre less than a mile from home.
I did go down the LED path with my silver 550 ( lets build a bike for a grand ) and found that the stop and tail lights were not as bright as an original bulb. All the led bulbs blow within 100 miles and the number plate lights just melted. Ash kindly made me a box of tricks so, i could run the number plate LED lights. All the rest apart from the cob led head light bulb have been put back to standard bulbs. For some reason that cob led bulb still works today and that is the most important light on a bike. On that bike my conclusion was, that if you mess about with the original electrics then, they become unreliable and will let you down ;)
Post by: Bryanj on April 04, 2022, 05:28:59 AM
Simply for convenience of supply i fit a blade fuse holder if using original loom but keep the original if nos loom.
I had many odd electrical problems when in the trade, mostly caused by owner error and the only bad regulator i had was on one of my own where the contacts would "stick" on half charge but start working again at the next pothole, similarly the only stator fail was on another one of mine where there was a broken wire where it had been dropped on the floor, soldered it back together, insulated it and caried on for years.
I believe these bikes were well over speced and have lasted well, hopefully to carry on for much longer
Post by: Trigger on April 04, 2022, 06:39:52 AM
I must of bought 100 single honda type fuse holders 5 years ago and have only sold 5 in that time via ebay and the forum so, owners never seem to have too much trouble with them :'(
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 19, 2022, 07:30:57 AM
Nickel is more difficult to strip .. I got some stuff from Youplate but not tried it yet although with all of those strippers, using reverse current rather than just dipping is the quickest method and will probably be kinder to the base metal.
The way I check for all removal of nickel is to give the item a quick dip in acid copper solution.. .. this solution will give you a thin copper plate, which removes really easily (doesn't adhere) as you can't directly plate acid copper onto steel, without a nickel strike plate first (they used to use cyanide copper directly onto steel in the 'good old days' ;D. Any areas with nickel still present will show up easily, then you just buff off the copper. The acid copper is simply a mix of copper sulphate and weak sulphuric acid... Garetos sell it I think or it's available on eBay. That copper method is used by old school engineering guys for marking out steel .. i.e. a thin removable copper layer .. a bit like the blue stuff commonly used now.
Can't say a lot about the power unit ... as I said in a previous post both myself and Caswell Europe (was owned by Motoclassic in Hamphire) tested that same supply and deemed it very poorly built and basically not fit for purpose. We had the same problems as you and I stripped one down and the build quality was awful. If you connect a cheapo mulitimeter in series with the positive lead on 10A range you can monitor the current properly. I didn't trust the digital meters on that cheapo unit. Just calculate the current required .. typically 0.1A/square inch of surface area for most plating, possibly higher for stripping but Gateros will confirm that.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 19, 2022, 09:35:51 AM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 19, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
As Ash has identified some very toxic waste that needs proper disposal certainly not into the sewer.
True and most chromers ...even the guy in Hull ...happy to just strip parts for you .... just tell them you are going to paint or powder coat them. Not a lot of money and they actually strip in the chrome bath in reverse plate mode. Turnaround usually a week at most. Personally, unless it's a valuable part you don't want to trust with somebody else, I would leave stripping to the pros.
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 19, 2022, 11:59:59 AM
I used the stuff from the builders merchants that you have to sign a disclaimer for.....(in case you accidentally drink it and decide to sue ;D).
Its a behoind the counter job and is pretty evil stuff, you open the bottle and it bloody chuckles at you :o
Its nasty stuff and has sulphuric acid in it so works in about 20 mins. I did the exhaust clamps too and theyre really spotless now. Just thought I'd mention it as it works so well and all for a tenner 8)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 19, 2022, 01:39:32 PM
I stripped the chain guard and the headlight ears down to the metal with Caustic drain cleaner. Wet them up , pop in jug and gently pour on top and stand back, plenty of fizzing and bits coming off before being consumeed by the solution. They rapidly turn orange afterwards so I'm prettu sure they are down to the metal and ready to be cleaned up and worked on.
I used the stuff from the builders merchants that you have to sign a disclaimer for.....(in case you accidentally drink it and decide to sue ;D).
Its a behoind the counter job and is pretty evil stuff, you open the bottle and it bloody chuckles at you :o
Its nasty stuff and has sulphuric acid in it so works in about 20 mins. I did the exhaust clamps too and theyre really spotless now. Just thought I'd mention it as it works so well and all for a tenner 8)
If it's the stuff I am thinking of, then it's almost neat concentrated sulphuric acid plus some other additive. There is a place in Hull makes a version of it called 'One-Shot' . drain cleaner ... .really nasty stuff ... not sure how they are able to sell it really .. but as you say you have to sign for it. Bloke behind counter said .."Do you know who John George Haigh was" So I replied "Yea he was the acid bath murdered from Crawley" and the bloke replied 'Well this stuff is three times as strong as the stuff he used ... Sign here!
Not sure how gentle that is to the base metal particularly if the part is badly pitted to start with but if it works for you fine.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 19, 2022, 09:24:46 PM
I use an industrial laboratory type bench supply with adjustable accurate current limit but they tend to be a bit expensive something like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275054250693?hash=item400a82cac5:g:elAAAOSwss1hrgJ2
Only 4A which would be fine for me but depends on the sizes of items you are plating. There are a lot of cheapo ones out there but you basically get what you pay for. Also ideal for testing electrical components on the bike. I treat something like this as being an item that you will always nearly get all of your money back if it becomes surplus to requirements .. a cheapo Chinese one will only really be fit for the bin.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 22, 2022, 11:36:00 PM
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Post by: K2-K6 on May 12, 2022, 03:15:23 PM
Just looked again.
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Post by: SPR on September 11, 2022, 07:43:26 AM
Simon
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Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 11, 2022, 08:29:32 AM
Great work again there Ken. My problem is if it’s not shiny in 10 mins, I’m bored with it! 🤣
I recon Ken was a parade guardsman with shiny boots. Final finish on these alloy bits is spit and polish I would imagine. Super stuff.
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 11, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
Stunners as ever Ken, too much of a filthy job for me, bloody hate it but my hatred of polishing has been muted on here before. Hats off not just for the technique but the staying power, did I tell you I hate polishing? ;D
The bits I've done in the past through necessity have come out well but not after sanding for hours. I use ABRANET sheets that you can get on ebay in assorted sizez, it wears much better than wet n dry and works out a bit cheaper. I got the tip from watching Alan Millyard do his bits in the shed, utter genius. But, like Ken says, all about the pre work, sanding ally is a horrible job but if you've the time and the will, results like Ken's can be achieved to a fantastic finish as Ken shows on here. Well done mate, they look the cats swingers mate.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 11, 2022, 12:55:50 PM
Well done mate, they look the cats swingers mate.
That's a new one. Are cats parts seen as better value than run of the mill canine tackle ? (maybe a stronger bag?)
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 11, 2022, 01:21:07 PM
This chap does a mix bag of vrious grits Ken, at leastthen you dont need to buy loads and y0u get to see if its good fpr what you want for only a tenner. I've found this the most cost effective but appreciate that you have a load of stuff to do so get some and count it as an experiment.
Slept in before joining up, love it..................Probably not the right mind set there for the Navy, eh? ;D
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322284949822
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 11, 2022, 01:44:18 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 11, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
Great work again there Ken. My problem is if it’s not shiny in 10 mins, I’m bored with it! 🤣
I recon Ken was a parade guardsman with shiny boots. Final finish on these alloy bits is spit and polish I would imagine. Super stuff.
Ah "Bulling" boots with Parade Gloss shoe polish by KI-Wi that was part of the old police initial training - spending hours with a dab of cotton wool with spit to lubticate the polish - tiny circles was the key.
Post by: Lobo on September 12, 2022, 01:25:42 PM
Post by: Lobo on September 12, 2022, 09:36:04 PM
Kinda regretting now that I’ve done the above on everything I’ve polished. 🙁
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 27, 2023, 10:32:53 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 28, 2023, 10:06:33 PM
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 28, 2023, 11:59:46 PM
The F on the 500s badge is a doddle to remove, it doesn’t look it but it’s not a perfect fit, there’s usually a gap somewhere, usually on the bottom edge. Get a Stanley knife blade and just force it in and lever gently up, the glue used looks like double sided tape tbh, as soon as the bottom edge lifts slide the blade in further to minimalise the risk of it snapping. I’d imagine other badges from that era used the same method.
I have quite a few of the orange Fs, kept them from broken badges, Menno sent me a few some years ago.
I have some orange acrylic sheet to make some new inserts, the surface isn’t flat it’s domed, so cut the acrylic to the correct shapes file into shape and then quickly subject it to a blow torch flame, this melts the upper surface and gives it that glassy look that it has as standard, back with gold leaf and it should look authentic.
You are correct Ken I looked at one of the NOS ones you sold me a couple of years back and the orange 'F' is an insert not cast in. I wonder if you could make a silicone mould of one and cast some inserts, using the orange dyed resin I described though.
Post by: andy120t on January 31, 2023, 06:57:59 AM
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4868497
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 31, 2023, 07:12:32 PM
I've hot even looked at side panel badges yet and it kind slipped my mind that I haven't got any at all. Are they 'hen's teeth'as I better get looking I suppose? ::)
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 31, 2023, 07:34:44 PM
Well I don't like those so might have to do something a little different and quite like those you've been doing up on the thread Ken, are they off a K something then? They look great and as the bike's going to be a type of orange, those would be a great alyternative. Not keen on decals and quite like badges and these would suit the tank badges Ive done for her. Would that be considered a 'frowned upon' move?
Post by: K2-K6 on January 31, 2023, 08:08:52 PM
Just had a look and it appears that they are decals, but you lot already knew that ;D
Well I don't like those so might have to do something a little different and quite like those you've been doing up on the thread Ken, are they off a K something then? They look great and as the bike's going to be a type of orange, those would be a great alyternative. Not keen on decals and quite like badges and these would suit the tank badges Ive done for her. Would that be considered a 'frowned upon' move?
Allankelly on here may be able to offer you more insight roo. I believe he's producing in this sort of area for RD yamaha owners.
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 31, 2023, 08:32:28 PM
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Post by: Seabeowner on February 03, 2023, 07:21:33 PM
Phil
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 03, 2023, 07:37:24 PM
Super stuff mate and a top price bud ;)
Has it increased the size of the spindles by much if at all, alyhough a gnat's chuff is appliedm it must have some size increase overall?
The zaust clamps are epic, I had mine chromed as I couldnt face rubbing them down to how you have although yours look far nicer and as you say shouldnt deteriorate as fast hopefully. I'd be really chuffed with that lot. Even the master cylinder is supurb, might take mine off and have it done, even though I've painted it as I love the finish youve got on that, its ace. ;) :D
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 03, 2023, 07:39:26 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on February 24, 2023, 11:23:50 AM
Are the Brembo a straight swap onto existing mount or do they need different brackets?
Post by: taysidedragon on February 24, 2023, 11:38:15 AM
Post by: taysidedragon on February 24, 2023, 12:12:45 PM
Need new pad pins for the Brembos, £65 for 4 pins, bugger that.
Ouch! Must be gold plated.
Post by: Oddjob on February 24, 2023, 01:09:34 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 24, 2023, 03:32:36 PM
I did a steel line swap on the VFR, including the clutch, there's 14 braided lines on it! similar to what you found, bloody lines everywhere, it's some monster plumbing!!
New lines, pads and EBC discs however, work brilliantly and probably the best set up I've had on her!
Post by: Sesman on March 06, 2023, 03:56:58 PM
Post by: Sesman on March 06, 2023, 04:26:38 PM
If James can sort me out with a seat pan I’ll have them powder coat it as you suggest.
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 06, 2023, 08:25:19 PM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on March 08, 2023, 03:00:16 PM
Obvs, my cap sits under the fuel flap so is covered but I dont want to open the tank at the petrol station and see a crap petrol cap. AND I'm determined to use it! 8)
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 08, 2023, 03:18:36 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 08, 2023, 04:28:39 PM
If I zinc plate it dont you think it'll look a bit naff? I was hoping to open the flap, (leave it Phil), and be dazzled by shiney! I'll put a piccy up on my thread a bit later on and you see what I mean.......
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 08, 2023, 06:06:15 PM
Post by: taysidedragon on March 10, 2023, 08:28:52 PM
Reply from Philpotts today.
To hard chrome the 2 damper rods is £110 per rod, how the hell is that justified. I bought 2 NOS rods from Italy the other year, after the dreaded B word, for £70 a pair. I was going to have the old ones redone and sell them on but how could you do that if they already stand you at £220 not including the cost of postage back and to Luton.
I guess they don't want to do it. ☹
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Post by: Laverdaroo on March 27, 2023, 12:51:23 PM
Just saying……
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 27, 2023, 12:58:12 PM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on March 27, 2023, 01:26:24 PM
Go on then Ken, if I have to I’ll do the fourth one, you just get the other three sorted then for us
Offer accepted
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Post by: Bryanj on March 27, 2023, 02:17:01 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 27, 2023, 02:36:58 PM
I suspect safe is sometimes just stupid. :-[ :-[ :-[
At this point I mentally blame she who must be obeyed. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 27, 2023, 02:39:36 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 20, 2023, 11:48:59 AM
A brief description of the contents of a box is then listed on a spreadsheet. New parts are currently stored in a cardboard box with contents listed. I rarely print off a boxes contents I have a PC in my garage office so easy enough to update or check what's where. My baskets are stored on shelves so even if I put one back on the wrong shelf the lettering is still there.
I also have a work log where I record what I have done and flag up in red things that need torquing up with desired settings. As this is a hobby I have the time to be meticulous with written records & photos. Like most filing systems once it's in place really easy to maintain.
So Ken I guess it's a personal choice in the end - just think of all the saved time you could spend doing one more buff up instead of looking for parts. My search for a brake return spring that I never actually had was the catalyst for my orgainisational phase.👍👍👍
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 20, 2023, 04:21:48 PM
Anything thats shagged gets slung in the scrap or the 'might make something with that lot and the welder in the future, maybe' pile, yer know something to sit and go rusty in the garden or something.
Simple system, seems to work ok but like you Ken, I have to go through the newparts box if Iwant to find anything which is a bit tiresome but we like simple and do it quite well. 8)
Post by: Johnny4428 on April 20, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 21, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
All plating in the post, recorded del bud, going to your lasses work
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Post by: gary123 on June 08, 2023, 06:28:39 PM
Still got your address, Ill let you know when they are posted.
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Post by: gary123 on June 13, 2023, 01:57:45 PM
Ive got a couple of the 550 ones, at least I think they are going by your pics. You can have em for nowt but cant get to PO till next week.
Still got your address, Ill let you know when they are posted.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on June 22, 2023, 09:02:56 AM
Never tried two tone either - neat.
Post by: Johnny4428 on June 25, 2023, 03:26:57 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on June 25, 2023, 03:48:47 PM
110v @ 710w
There's Makita made too with 240v supply available.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on June 25, 2023, 03:50:14 PM
Post by: gamma on July 05, 2023, 06:56:56 PM
Interestingly I had a set of those beautiful Stradas on a CB750 F1 that got stolen in Germany in 1980. It also had Raask rear sets and other good bits like finned covers.
I also like all the parts to look clean and polished, and spent god knows how many hours achieving this. I probably could have done it all quicker if I had you used a bench grinder with polishing wheels
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 30, 2024, 05:40:29 PM
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Post by: Johnny4428 on January 31, 2024, 07:55:20 PM
The originals are very rough.
Post by: Laverda Dave on February 01, 2024, 03:33:54 PM
Are you going to spray the frame with wd40 or suchlike to protect it in its raw state and whilst you attend to the welds. I know powder coat doesn't like any kind of corrosion or are you planing on fixing the welds and then giving it another light dusting with the blast gun?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 01, 2024, 03:42:27 PM
Be good if its a straight fit but I guess it's not.
Post by: K2-K6 on February 01, 2024, 06:14:07 PM
The gaps are left as stress mitigation in part of the design and testing, normal to not connect bracing completely to avoid failure.
The swing arm ones (in exaggerated illustration) if you push one arm up the other down, then those gaps will move like a fish mouth as the bracing takes the stress. The top and bottom welds running along the arms themselves are in shear stress, with the brace itself in compressive and tensile loading diagonally across the flat surface.
Welding the "open" ends on the arm constrains it such that it can crack rather than "breath", the crack can then travel into the main arm tube via the weld, just where you dont need it.
Welding is often delineated in structure to avoid stress cracking to follow along the weld route in causing ultimate failure of the main component.
Post by: K2-K6 on February 01, 2024, 10:25:55 PM
Specialist frames likewise, but you'd not ordinarily change one to the other without good cause or background information.
A lot of special hand-built frames historically have been brazed joints that doesn't melt the steel during that process. These don't then have the same pathway through the principal structure t give failure of base material if that bronze material should crack.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 02, 2024, 12:42:18 AM
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Post by: K2-K6 on February 02, 2024, 09:35:11 AM
But don't think there's appreciation for structures and the impact it can make, or is seen conventionally. The swingarm bracing as it goes down along the arm is supposed to be a "soft" finish and why most bracing like this is shaped similarly. Welding that opening together in fixing it to the main tube changes that characteristic, first to remove flex and putting a circumferential weld halfway round the tube, making a failure pathway in that material section. Its now got a raised stresss point halfway along the arm, and with compromised structure potential as it was never designed to be welded there.
We could all see the problem of replacing a fuse with a stout woodscrew for example, feeling that's obviously going to risk a potential problem, but it would work all the time the circuit wasn't under too much stress. Modification like the brace compromise do exactly this though.
It doesn't matter to me what people do individually to their own frame, but I don't think it should be viewed as a reasonable path in modifications.
If anyone wants to feel swingarm flex, then hitting a dip in the road at speed while in a corner (amplified with a passenger) and the bike wallows, the line is altered and you can feel the steering move, that's swingarm flex, present in many of these old bikes with one arm moving up and the other down as the wheel cocks sideways from the load coming in to it. That squirrely feeling ;D
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 04, 2024, 08:35:08 AM
Post by: K2-K6 on March 04, 2024, 08:57:12 AM
Almost true Nige, when I get to 1000 I start again at 1, around 4000 of 9020 are now gone, everything from 2014 to May 2021 is now gone for good. Moorey stated my posts were causing members to leave the site so I'm remedying that.
Whether it has impact, I for one value your contribution Ken along with opinion and the presentation of work personally completed.
Between us we can have opposing views but still discuss and offer why those may be desirable or give clarification to the topic in question, essentially a part of having interesting conversations on a forum like this.
I'm OK with holding a different view of something, with sometimes the debate offering important insight to another forum member in possible explanation of why something has happened on their bike. You'll never know what these conversations will turn up.
Whatever you decide in personal position, I wish you well with your riding and projects.
Nigel.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on March 04, 2024, 09:01:06 AM
Almost true Nige, when I get to 1000 I start again at 1, around 4000 of 9020 are now gone, everything from 2014 to May 2021 is now gone for good. Moorey stated my posts were causing members to leave the site so I'm remedying that.
Whether it has impact, I for one value your contribution Ken along with opinion and the presentation of work personally completed.
Between us we can have opposing views but still discuss and offer why those may be desirable or give clarification to the topic in question, essentially a part of having interesting conversations on a forum like this.
I'm OK with holding a different view of something, with sometimes the debate offering important insight to another forum member in possible explanation of why something has happened on their bike. You'll never know what these conversations will turn up.
Whatever you decide in personal position, I wish you well with your riding and projects.
Nigel.
Plus one on this and Teds post.
Post by: Laverda Dave on March 04, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
At the end of the day we are all grown ups and are here to help each other, that's why I joined the forum and I'm 100% grateful to ALL the individuals on here for their help and advice.
So, make that a plus 2 with Nigel and Ted's thoughts.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 04, 2024, 10:08:11 AM
When Wendy says "I would love to go to Stafford Show with you" her voice intonation delivers the opposite message. I go with her brother every year with her blessing (relief) instead.
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 04, 2024, 10:35:40 AM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 04, 2024, 11:04:14 AM
You are effectively filling our forum with thousands of non-sensical posts. My server has reported tons of spam recently.
It's you.
So sorry but you are done.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 04, 2024, 11:20:52 AM
Post by: Laverda Dave on March 04, 2024, 12:03:09 PM
All very sad. I always appreciate yours or any other bike related posts on this forum so you and your old posts will be sadly missed Ken. I fully appreciate Steve's predicament too as he kindly keeps all of this up and running without ruling with a rod of iron like many other forums. A lot of the forums have either gone to the wall or hardly visited now due to the FB groups but this one seems to thrive. Long may it continue.
+1 on those thoughts Ash. This is the best motorcycle forum on the planet, end of. I would put the content on this forum far above my favourite Classic Bike Guide and Classic Bike magazines and that is simply down to the members of the forum and all the help they give :)