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Title: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 19, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
Diesel at BP station £9.95 a gallion little wonder the place was deserted.
Typo meant  £8.95.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 19, 2022, 03:12:28 PM
Blimey, that's steep. We have been up in Argyle & Bute for the week and on the main A roads and Motorways / service stations, the highest we saw was £1.87 per litre for diesel 😢😢😢😢
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Moorey on March 19, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
 
 What year did we go metric. ;)
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: royhall on March 19, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
We stopped to get petrol and the woman on pump 2 behind us put a tenners worth in. My wife said "crikey where's she going, pump 6"

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Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: philward on March 19, 2022, 09:02:48 PM
Someones ripping us off - when crude oil peaked at about $180 a barrel in about 2009, we where paying about £1.35 litre and now its about $100 barrel we are paying northwards of £1.70 litre. Even taking into account the change in the $ to £ rate, we are being ripped off by 'Big Oil'
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 19, 2022, 09:11:18 PM
Has fuel gone up?
Its always been £20 hasnt it? ;) ;D

£1.82 at Tesvos this afternoon, I had a sense of humour failure! ??? :-X
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 21, 2022, 09:18:14 AM
In my younger days 4 gallons of Esso Golden was 19s 8p (that 4s 10p / gallon less than 25 pence / gallon or about 5p/litre) I could have a weekend camping in Snowdonia  for less than a fiver including drinks at the Pen-y-Gwryd.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Bryanj on March 21, 2022, 04:54:20 PM
I can remember 7s6p a gallon when beer was 1s10p a pint
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Sesman on March 21, 2022, 06:35:32 PM
Ahem…..

We made us own fun in them days
Do you know when i were a lad you could get a Tram down into't town
Buy 3 new suits n an overcoat, 4 new pair of good boots
Goo n see George Formby at Palace Theatre ,
Get Blind Drunk,
Have some Steak n Chips, Bunch of bananas n 3 stone of monkey Nuts
And still have change out on a farthing..
We did lots of things in them days
They haven't got today
Rickets, Diptheria, h*****, and
By we did look well going to school with no backsides in us trousers n
All us little heads painted Purple cause we had Ringworm

They Dunt Know theyre Born Today!!!!
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Seabeowner on March 21, 2022, 06:41:38 PM
I remember 6s and 8d a gallon when I started. But according to figures inflation has gone up 17 times since then and average earnings 22 x. Using about 20 x that works out as £1.47 per litre. My car these days does at least 20% better fuel consumption compared to cars of 1970 so maybe like £1.76 p/l. But my bike still does the same (or maybe a bit worse with the ethanol)!!!
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: K2-K6 on March 21, 2022, 07:15:49 PM
"Do you know when i were a lad you could get a Tram down into't town"

Didn't have trams when I were a lad, but going to Crich Tramway Museum they had one there from a line that went to Hampton Court (local to me) which I didn't even know was originally there. Waited for that one, straight upstairs and sitting at the front, cracking day out, as well as meeting others from on here and all the lovely bikes to see.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Sesman on March 21, 2022, 07:32:49 PM
Been to Hampton Court. Now that is a ‘classic’.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Athame57 on March 21, 2022, 07:37:05 PM
I half filled up at Texaco in London the other day. I thought the pumps had become more efficient, faster delivering but then I realised it was just the price display clocking up the numbers much faster now! Ding Dong!  :o
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Laverda Dave on March 21, 2022, 09:49:06 PM
I don't know if it's true but I was told a few years ago that when using the fuel nozzle you shouldn't press the trigger all the way back but should allow the fuel to flow at a decreased rate. The reason I was given for this is due to the petrol pump reading the flow of fuel at the nozzle but when the fuel pump is delivering at a high rate air gets mixed in with the fuel. This results in the pump meter reading both the fuel and the air  and thus you pay for air as well as fuel. If you only pull the trigger halfway back there is not so much air mixed with the fuel.
I don't know if the above is true or just an urban myth however, I don't pull the trigger right back and the fuel doesn't froth as much as when the trigger is pulled right back.
There's also the reasoning to keep the tank full to prevent evaporation. This sounds a reasonable assumption however, the fuel tank in a car takes about 5-6 gallons, that's an awful lot of weight to be carrying around using fuel to carry it (even if it is being burnt off).
Maybe someone can confirm or dispel the theories?
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 21, 2022, 10:44:45 PM
Ahem…..

We made us own fun in them days
Do you know when i were a lad you could get a Tram down into't town
Buy 3 new suits n an overcoat, 4 new pair of good boots
Goo n see George Formby at Palace Theatre ,
Get Blind Drunk,
Have some Steak n Chips, Bunch of bananas n 3 stone of monkey Nuts
And still have change out on a farthing..
We did lots of things in them days
They haven't got today
Rickets, Diptheria, h*****, and
By we did look well going to school with no backsides in us trousers n
All us little heads painted Purple cause we had Ringworm

They Dunt Know theyre Born Today!!!!


You wrote it, I was thinking it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: taysidedragon on March 22, 2022, 09:50:13 AM
I don't know if it's true but I was told a few years ago that when using the fuel nozzle you shouldn't press the trigger all the way back but should allow the fuel to flow at a decreased rate. The reason I was given for this is due to the petrol pump reading the flow of fuel at the nozzle but when the fuel pump is delivering at a high rate air gets mixed in with the fuel. This results in the pump meter reading both the fuel and the air  and thus you pay for air as well as fuel. If you only pull the trigger halfway back there is not so much air mixed with the fuel.
I don't know if the above is true or just an urban myth however, I don't pull the trigger right back and the fuel doesn't froth as much as when the trigger is pulled right back.
There's also the reasoning to keep the tank full to prevent evaporation. This sounds a reasonable assumption however, the fuel tank in a car takes about 5-6 gallons, that's an awful lot of weight to be carrying around using fuel to carry it (even if it is being burnt off).
Maybe someone can confirm or dispel the theories?

I'm guessing here , but I'm thinking myth for air. The fuel flow meter is in the fuel pump, not at the nozzle, so should be measuring fuel only. The frothing appearance only occurs at the nozzle exit.
My car's fuel tank is 60 litres (13 gallons in old money). Each gallon weighs roughly 10 pounds, so 130 lbs in a full tank. For that reason I only fill it up when going on a long trip. Otherwise you're carrying the equivalent of a couple of heavy bags in your boot all the time.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 22, 2022, 11:22:48 AM
I’ve always been a fill it up man. But it is very true that it carrying extra weight around for nothing. Now you have to weigh that up against an xtra trip to the service station? 😝
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: Lobo on March 22, 2022, 11:43:31 AM
Not wishing to sound a smart **se 😬, but the specific gravity of petrol is abouts 0.72, meaning that said UK gallon actually weighs approx 7.2 lbs. Translating this into good news means a full tank is 94 lbs… or say 4% of the car’s weight (@ 2500lbs).
Assuming your average tank is 1/2 full, you’re typically only lugging 2% of extra weight around?
Life’s too short to be hanging around forecourts!
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: MrDavo on March 22, 2022, 12:33:20 PM
When the World Cup was on, some journalist (with nothing better to do) worked out the decrease in mpg caused by the drag from an Engerland flag on a car roof, times the number of cars carrying one (or two), times the average miles traveled over the tournament.

The result was a staggering amount of fuel being used to lug all those flags around.

Similar with full tanks. I always fill the bikes because the range is limited anyway, in the car it depends on how well off I'm feeling, I'm more likely to fill up if I'm at a (relatively) cheap supermarket.
 
Edited to add: While we're on the subject of fuel, I've read that the reason both Red Bull cars retired at the end of Sunday's Grand Prix is suspected to be cavitation in the fuel pump and fuel lines caused by the compulsory 10% sustainable ethanol element in the fuel starting to evaporate in the heat after it was sloshing around in a nearly empty tank.
Title: Re: Daft fuel prices locally
Post by: andy120t on March 22, 2022, 12:46:15 PM
imagine what the price would look like if we'd had voted for Euros..
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