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Title: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 19, 2023, 06:49:15 PM
https://www.visordown.com/news/industry/hydrogen-push-honda-kawasaki-suzuki-and-yamaha
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Bryanj on May 19, 2023, 06:51:34 PM
As if its not bad enough having explosive next to your nuts now its high pressure explosive!
But at least its an alternative
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Spitfire on May 19, 2023, 07:15:16 PM
I'm with Bryan on this one, if it can be made safe it will be great but having worked on Refinery units that made hydrogen in bulk or used it there are serious challenges to be overcome before it can be safe.

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Bryanj on May 19, 2023, 10:00:11 PM
Just re read my post and appologies to Julie and any other female members
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: royhall on May 20, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Good luck finding Hydrogen to fill up with, they cant even install a few chargers for EV's let alone install a full hydrogen infrastructure. It may happen at some point but not in the lifetime of most SOHC members. Sorry to burst the bubble but it takes Britain 35 years to build a simple railway that the Victorians managed in months. HS1 was first announced by Michael Hesletine in 1991 and it was talked about for years before that. That was a whole 68 miles that took 16 years to build, when HS2 gets finished (if it ever does) it will have taken 35 years to link the Channel Tunnel to Birmingham. Forget HS3 that's never going to happen. Hydrogen cars and bikes anyone, don't make me laugh.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 20, 2023, 01:10:19 PM
I’m with you but just to highlight that things are trying to be done as the reliance on fossil fuels and all the rest of the gumph they pedal is simply pie in the sky. At least they’re having a go but I won’t ever see one, I’m sure of that.


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Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on May 20, 2023, 01:11:01 PM
Perhaps Hydrogen Power will be okay for Trains & HGV's
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Oddjob on May 20, 2023, 02:28:28 PM
Porsche efuel looks interesting, might be the way forward for classic bikes.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Bryanj on May 20, 2023, 03:45:01 PM
Already some hydrogen trucks about but only refueling i know of is at dirft near rugby
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Moorey on May 20, 2023, 06:51:14 PM
 Also earlier this year the Zero Avia largest hydrogen powered plane a 19 seater Dornier based at Cotswold airport flew. They are looking at
 commercial flights in 2025.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: SteveW on May 20, 2023, 06:55:13 PM
The Shell garage at Cobham services on the M25 close to junction 10 have had a hydrogen fuel pump for a few years now.
Never seen anyone use it though.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Moorey on May 20, 2023, 07:02:46 PM
The Shell garage at Cobham services on the M25 close to junction 10 have had a hydrogen fuel pump for a few years now.
Never seen anyone use it though.

 Could be why Shell are removing all LPG pumps to make way for Hydrogen.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: royhall on May 20, 2023, 10:34:58 PM
It's already too late to stop global warming. Were nearly at the tipping point already and all we have to fight it is a few electric cars and a bit of loft lagging. Yes we have wind power but when the wind doesn't blow the gas fired power stations on standby kick in. On standby they use 60% of the gas to produce zero power, not very green. Everything else is just talk talk talk. Please tell me I'm wrong, but I'm not. What else has actually been achieved, and all the while the world's population continues to grow unchecked. Personally I'm tired of hearing all the bull from politicians. Incidentally, hydrogen takes more power to produce than it contains. Again hardly green, just moving the source of pollution somewhere else. And that's my rant for this week.

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Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on May 20, 2023, 11:45:59 PM
I suspect you can't stop global warming any more than you could have prevented the Ice Age or old King Canute could stop the tide coming in.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Oddjob on May 21, 2023, 12:50:15 AM
Couple of million freezers at the North Pole with their doors open, global warming solved.
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on May 21, 2023, 01:06:05 PM
That's more plausible than carbon capture Ken - what about several hundred Mega Freezers built by Harland & Wolfe powered by these new floating Nuclear Generators that RR are developing. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Athame57 on May 22, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
The rubber band offers endless opportunity, all we need to do is apply 21st century R & D to it surely? (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qrqB1hbd_9c/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Orcade-Ian on May 22, 2023, 07:56:07 PM
Global warming? - of course there's Global warming!  I say 'Bring it on!'  Then I can turn the heating right down and save the Planet for Greta.  It's going to be a wonderful place for her - lots of pretty butterflies and birds but no food for humans.
Have you heard those sea-level rise predictions?  With the Earth's surface covered by 80% water has anyone calculated the volume of water needed to produce this rise?  There is certainly not enough in the ice caps, so these scientists are going to have to import it or manufacture it.
So that's my rant for the day!
Ian
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Oddjob on May 22, 2023, 08:00:03 PM
I live at the top of a large hill so my house is safe from flooding  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Athame57 on May 23, 2023, 05:22:28 AM
Have you heard those sea-level rise predictions?  With the Earth's surface covered by 80% water has anyone calculated the volume of water needed to produce this rise?  There is certainly not enough in the ice caps, so these scientists are going to have to import it or manufacture it.
So that's my rant for the day!
Ian
Hey Ian, you forgot Manchester, there is enough rain from there to finish the job. We are doomed.  :o
Title: Re: There might be something that’s not electric in the coming years……..
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 23, 2023, 07:22:23 PM
Have you heard those sea-level rise predictions?  With the Earth's surface covered by 80% water has anyone calculated the volume of water needed to produce this rise?  There is certainly not enough in the ice caps, so these scientists are going to have to import it or manufacture it.
So that's my rant for the day!
Ian
Hey Ian, you forgot Manchester, there is enough rain from there to finish the job. We are doomed.  :o


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