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Sorry to return to this but still having problems! >:(
I watched the videos mentioned and even carefully read the Vintage Biker piece on setting up the carbs- no joy still won't idle.
I've tried BryanJ's revised carb set up still no joy.
It just won't return to idle speed of 1200rpm. rev it to 2000rpm and won't drop, rev it to 300rpm drops to 2000, rev it to 4000 drops to 3000rpm. I've disconnected cables and it still won't drop, so can't be cables! and revved by hand.
I've adjusted air mixture screws to 1 1/2 turns out and nothing.
But again, press the top of the brass nuts on top of the sliders and you can get the revs to drop but then drops too low and stalls. it can be reduced by adjusting idle screw but continually doing that is not right, obviously!
Is it possible I've reassembled wrongly the sliders but they to be smooth enough in their action?
Is it possible to get the main spring the wrong way round but don't see how, it closes the carbs with a quick action?
Frustrated of Sussex

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 03:52:58 PM »
Aarrgh! 🙃 thought it was had to screw the bejesus out of adjuster to get slide down . 🤣😉

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 02:44:16 PM »
No, this first time off since I've had bike, only did it as waiting for rebore etc. And thought ideal time , any ideas Ted?

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 02:37:33 PM »
Try disconnecting the cables completely. Rev the engine using the butterfly by hand and see if it still does it. You'll need a remote fuel supply to do it though.

You don't like me do you 🤣
Worth a punt though. Given up Haynes manual (sorry Bryan) reference to 56mm distance on closing throttle to end .
Interesting, cables disconnected but still same issue and  again could be resolved by pressing on top of sliders on 1 and 2 carbs.
Not quite sure what's incorrectly aligned but must be something of that sort 🤔
Carbs off again !

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 02:19:02 PM »
Try disconnecting the cables completely. Rev the engine using the butterfly by hand and see if it still does it. You'll need a remote fuel supply to do it though.

You don't like me do you 🤣
Worth a punt though. Given up Haynes manual (sorry Bryan) reference to 56mm distance on closing throttle to end .

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 02:15:01 PM »
Does sound like closing cable to me as well, if you twist the throttle the wrong way(forwards) after you let the throttle go do the revs come down, there is a spring loaded bit on the operating mechanism
Thanks Bryan , did think that too but doesn't make any difference.  Also adjusted both cables but made little difference.  Also made sure choke screw was not operating choke.
Incidentally though as I was pushing/ prodding stuff I did note that if I pressed on brass caps on sliders on 1 and 2 carbs revs did settle, almost if not quite returning down after operating. 

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 12:46:55 PM »
I'll double check but everything seems to open/  close OK but you never know bit fiddly at that bit .

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CB350/400 / Re: More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 12:40:38 PM »
The one on the open/ close butterfly thing or the handlebar ?

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CB350/400 / More carb troubles, engine won't return to idle revs
« on: October 09, 2022, 12:10:39 PM »
The saga continues. I've refitted carbs after setting sliders using BrianJ's method, and others and seemed to achieve what was required.  Bike starts fine and when warm ease off choke and all ok. But when revved up to say 3000rpm the throttles close properly on handlebars, but revs do not drop back to tickover 1200rpm. This can be achieved by using main idle screw, but when revved again the same happens meaning using idle screw again - could make for interesting riding! When revved higher say 4000rpm still won't drop back past 2000 without using idle screw.
I have fitted main air box to back of carbs but not yet connected up to filter box (suspected I'd be taking them off again!) and air filter not fitted but this shouldn't make any difference at this stage I believe. Carbs have been stripped/cleaned and replaced brass float rods and carb float height set.
Any ideas? Anyone? Please !

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CB350/400 / Re: High revving idle
« on: September 17, 2022, 06:53:25 PM »
I wasn't knocking Bryan's method, it's just I felt like I was doing something wrong, I'll give a good read and tackle it in the morning,  when I'm less inclined to fling it across the workshop.

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CB350/400 / Re: High revving idle
« on: September 17, 2022, 04:53:41 PM »
Okay so carbs off ..again! To attempt bench sync a la Bryanj method, what could be easier 🤔.  So found lowest slider and adjusted gap for drill bit, using 1.5mm bit. But when trying to use separate adjusters for other carbs there is no further adjustment available to achieve same gap?  Have I missed something when reassembled carbs after cleaning?

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CB350/400 / Re: High revving idle
« on: September 14, 2022, 06:06:41 PM »
Well done for getting her back on the road Bill. It does sound like a bench sync is needed.
Thanks Julie,
I did follow Bryanj's method as well and your flot setting method too- so must be one of your two's fault, as I never do anything wrong 😇🤣😂

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CB350/400 / Re: High revving idle
« on: September 14, 2022, 10:51:58 AM »
I agree with Oddjob, before diving in deep with all the strip down malarky, look at the simp-le stuff first. The push pull cables do take a couple of minutes to set up, plus check that they are routed correctly especially round the headstock and right fork, and check engine reaction when turning the bars from lock to lock.
Good idea, with cables disconnected, sliders snap back closed easily but just can't get cable routing right. Don't suppose anyone has pic of routes for theirs - I've seen the diagram but to be honest it's not that clear. Do they run through headlight bracket or behind it, note to self ALWAYS take more pics of everything before you start!

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CB350/400 / High revving idle
« on: September 12, 2022, 03:30:04 PM »
Finally got timing sorted on rebuilt engine and couldn't resist little shakedown ride, you know how it is ! Gearbox smooth, clutch needs adjustment but easy to do.
However despite setting idle screw at 1200rpm , albeit bit lumpy, went well. Until I had to stop at junction   revs hit 3000rpm with throttle closed and undone idle screw so wasn't touching , confusing 😐!
Otherwise rode lovely but obviously needs sorting, even rolling off throttle didn't lower revs  then slowly eased off.
I'm guessing balance carbs? They have been stripped ,  cleaned new o rings, courtesy of Nurse Julie, and replaced brass rod for carb floats. Float heights reset to 21mm too. Am I right about balancing  please don't tell me got to take damn things off again 😒

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CB350/400 / Re: Timing light gun/strobe
« on: September 09, 2022, 02:48:36 PM »
Cheers Bryan and K2 -K6, I'll continue with the one purchased.Thanks

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