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Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: haynes66 on April 21, 2021, 05:09:47 PM
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finally had to accept that my bike riding days are coming to an end due to hip, knee and ankle issues. so i've been looking at scooters and the burgman 400 seems very popular. anyone here got one?
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Can't help with the scooter advice but just wanted to say that I'm sorry to hear you are giving up riding bikes - I dread that day. Hope you get the pleasure of riding out of your future riding on a scooter
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Been thinking along the same lines - 72 in June (if I make it!) and the Burgman is a very capable machine - not checked to see if there is a forum? Having had Honda printed through me like Blackpool rock, I've been looking at 750 Forzas - they do an old 300 too and a mate here has one - have a go, they're great! That has now increased to 350 on the latest model.
My problem is that I still have a 1500 SE Wing, worth 4/5ths of bugger all against a new Forza but took it for an MOT on Monday and now can't bear to part with it.
Will I ever grow up?
Ian
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Missus had a 400 Bergman,bl***y fantastic.
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i still have two 750/4s in the middle of restoration but i might not be able to ride them once they're finished. but still, i enjoy working on bikes too.
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finally had to accept that my bike riding days are coming to an end due to hip, knee and ankle issues. so i've been looking at scooters and the burgman 400 seems very popular. anyone here got one?
A good friend had one from new - he commuted from Derby to Leicester on it for several years back in 2000 - he loved it.
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Orcadian, do what my mate who is awaiting 2 knees did and got a triked 1500!!
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Thanks Bryan,
I can still handle (and man-handle!) the Wing OK, that's not really my problem, it's the space thing - too many toys in the space I have. Yes, all my fault I know.
I always fancied 'a bit on the side' and I suppose with a Trike, you get a bit on both sides!
Going back to the OP - have a long ride on a Burgman or preferably a Forza or even XMax - they really are very practical machines.
Ian
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well that was quick! i just swapped my cbr600f4i for a burgman 400. how are the mighty fallen!
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well that was quick! i just swapped my cbr600f4i for a burgman 400. how are the mighty fallen!
Are you going to post some pictures?
These bigger scooters trip my memory from when I owned a Maico Letta 250 with full screen & rear carrier Black & Yellow A reg back in the day circa 1966.
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well that was quick! i just swapped my cbr600f4i for a burgman 400. how are the mighty fallen!
Are you going to post some pictures?
These bigger scooters trip my memory from when I owned a Maico Letta 250 with full screen & rear carrier Black & Yellow A reg back in the day circa 1966.
I had a Zundapp Bella and a Durkopp Diana in the 1980's but always lusted after the Maicoletta, i know i'm a bit odd !!
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i'll try to post some pics soon. sounds like a bag of nails but apparently that's how they sound
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They've quite a sharp and clattering combustion as they run fairly "optimal" in terms of mixture.
A bit like the 400 Honda kart engines in that respect, all really grunty instantly available torque right off the bat from tick over.
Can hardly move for scooters now round here with so many delivery services in action, just herds of them.
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well that was quick! i just swapped my cbr600f4i for a burgman 400. how are the mighty fallen!
Are you going to post some pictures?
These bigger scooters trip my memory from when I owned a Maico Letta 250 with full screen & rear carrier Black & Yellow A reg back in the day circa 1966.
I had a Zundapp Bella and a Durkopp Diana in the 1980's but always lusted after the Maicoletta, i know i'm a bit odd !!
I always lusted for a Heinkel!
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well that was quick! i just swapped my cbr600f4i for a burgman 400. how are the mighty fallen!
Are you going to post some pictures?
These bigger scooters trip my memory from when I owned a Maico Letta 250 with full screen & rear carrier Black & Yellow A reg back in the day circa 1966.
I had a Zundapp Bella and a Durkopp Diana in the 1980's but always lusted after the Maicoletta, i know i'm a bit odd !!
Bit off topic I know but Maicoletta ... Maico Letter ;D (from Honda Japan) ... as below. The start of Honda in the UK probably (initially 'Hondis' before they got stuffed by Honda GMBH.
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just a quick follow up. i should have gone on a few test rides first as i just dont like the burgman at all. i need to try a silverwing as they are meant to be more bike like.
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The CX500 fully faired with hard luggage .. and quilt stitched his and hers back rests? That's the spirit, forget scooters...( or is there another Silverwing?!)
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Hi Andy,
Yes, there is another Silver Wing - a Honda scooter! I always hankered after the type you mentioned though as a replacement for my very trusty 81 CX500A - ended up buying a VF750 S and put a fairing and Sigma luggage on that too having got the Continental touring bug. Ended up with Wings which do most things extremely well, now on my second 1500 SE.
Btw, thanks for your positive input to the DVLA post - I hope we can get somewhere with it,
Ian
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just a quick follow up. i should have gone on a few test rides first as i just dont like the burgman at all. i need to try a silverwing as they are meant to be more bike like.
As a matter of personal interest what don't you like about the Burgman - I ask as it's on my Bucket list (low down on the list) to own one?
I started with Mopeds then graduated to Scooters finally getting my first proper motorcycle a couple of years later - a Triumph Twenty One.
So for me as a previous Scooter owner I would judge the Burgman against my previous scooters - Garelli Capri's 70 & 80, Viscount Prior 200 & the Maico Letta 250. I could not afford a Lambretta & hated the shape of the Vespas. My best mate had a Triumph Tigress Twin - fast in a straight line but the dinky wheel diameter made it hopeless on bends or uneven road surfaces.
Who knows given time you may grow to like the charactaristics of a scooter provided you can let go of your motorcycle mindset. Scooters are more about urban cruising and looking good in your Parka Jacket lol.
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to be honest, it's a good scooter but feels a little small. the 650 is much nicer but many horror stories about very expensive belt replacements, but the silverwing seems very reliable. but like you say, the biggest problem is the mindset issue and i'm struggling to get my head round it!
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I bought a new 650 Burgman December 2016 now covered 22,000 miles.The “Quality” on it a joke😡,you need to remove plastics to do anything the centre stand both wheels and exhaust are heavily corroded even though it’s garaged and kept clean.Problems so far are brakes continually seize due to pistons sticking ( common on these scooters ) making maneuvering around hard,all wheel bearings failed the rear collapsed !! Radiator needed replacing last year crush washers on main oil lines failed dumping engine sump contents on rear wheel/road brake discs replaced twice on front once on rear wheels.Plus points are WHEN it’s running as it should it’s comfortable pretty quick and handle well for a lardy scooter I go touring on it.Suzuki quality is terrible and they’re reluctant to address warranty issues I test rode an X-ADV but although a great engine/gearbox not for me as bit high getting on and not as roomy as a Burger,there are some nice low miles Silverwings around ( stopped importing them 2016 ) I’d consider one of those as an alternative to a Suzuki of either 400cc:or 650cv 😁
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Wow....I know Suzuki is not the best manufacturer in the world when it comes to paint and finish....but they used to at least be reliable in terms of enginering.
Seems that is no longer the case. 2 sets of front discs in 22k miles is crazy. I don;t expect to have to change PADS that often....let alone discs. Oil line failures, bearing failures..these all point to the use of cheap parts where better quality is indicated. And, lets be honest....22k in 5 years is not exactly overworking the thing. I do more miles commuting to work
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Just wondering where the Suzuki Scooters are made ? That might explain why their quality and longevity is so poor !
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Just wondering where the Suzuki Scooters are made ? That might explain why their quality and longevity is so poor !
Maybe the old Honda CG125 factory in Brazil, the quality of those bikes was dreadful ::)
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I've googled the the Silverwing scooter they all seem to be automatics what sort of box is it CVT based don't like the sound of that on a 2 wheeler unless it's a dual clutch design?
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Suzuki don’t sell the 650 in Europe anymore not sure where they’re made.Just had to drill the threaded brake pad pin out on rear caliper it was rusted solid and the parking brake operating lever has broken.I traded it in for another bike recently for £4K I paid almost £9K for it with extras but I changed my mind and kept it and just fitted 2 new tyres again.They are a bag of shite and I’d steer clear unless you can get a realy good deal a post 2013 is the better one to go for.Current Silverwings are DCT older Silverwing 600 are twist and go belt/roller driven.