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Title: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: ricardo on July 22, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
Hi I need another one of these. its no 337 in the parts list and part no 45119-333-00.
Does anyone have one that they are prepared to sell. Maybe there is another identical part for a Honda which will do.
Ricardo
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Johnwebley on July 22, 2019, 04:41:37 PM


   you don't really need it,

 the brake will work just as well,or even better without it,

 it was a mod in the late 70's to remove them
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: ricardo on July 22, 2019, 05:10:25 PM
It did seem a bit superfluous when I dismantled the system.

Thanks. Ill leave old one in and see how I go
Ricardo
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: mattsz on July 22, 2019, 05:24:52 PM
There you go, then: one vote for "you don't need it," and one for "it's fairly important."

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Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: hairygit on July 22, 2019, 06:15:38 PM
There you go, then: one vote for "you don't need it," and one for "it's fairly important."

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Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: mike the bike on July 22, 2019, 10:39:43 PM
Like the push throttle cable.  It's to reduce the revs when it goes up to 2500rpm at traffic lights.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: dave400 on July 22, 2019, 11:19:48 PM
With or without the spring the brake is not the best  :)
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: gtmdriver on July 23, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
There's one on eBay at the moment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-NOS-CB350-CB360-CB400-Caliper-Adjust-Spring-45119-333-000-d-30/391911976705?hash=item5b3fc62f01:g:c7oAAOSwmkpZ7hkR
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Moorey on July 23, 2019, 08:05:46 AM
If your not doing a all out restoration you can get a box of assorted compression springs for less than a fiver through your door off eday
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: K2-K6 on July 23, 2019, 09:55:21 AM
Like the push throttle cable.  It's to reduce the revs when it goes up to 2500rpm at traffic lights.

If you need to do this then something fundamental is wrong with setup of carbs and cables.  Honda are very specific on this with detailed amount of free play in the pull cable because the safety cable "push" is generally non adjustable.  It just sits there doing nothing until an emergency need to close it may come along.

Brake spring just pushes the fixed (non hydraulic) pad away from the disc until it reaches the clearance you've set with the lock screw.  But overall brake pad retraction is controlled by the action of the hydraulic seal and how clean/free the hydraulic piston moves. 

The spring doesn't overcome a sticking piston and the brake will drag anyway if that's the case.

Swinging, sliding single piston calipers don't now generally use any spring return facilities after this original Honda design. It does seem a bit of overkill and won't really hurt operation,  but to have it correctly installed seems desirable as you don't have to make any decision about what you are modifying.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Athame57 on July 23, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
There's one on eBay at the moment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-NOS-CB350-CB360-CB400-Caliper-Adjust-Spring-45119-333-000-d-30/391911976705?hash=item5b3fc62f01:g:c7oAAOSwmkpZ7hkR
When I saw that the first thing that sprung to mind was the £12.00 makes an expensive spring!
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: hairygit on July 23, 2019, 11:25:27 AM
There's one on eBay at the moment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-NOS-CB350-CB360-CB400-Caliper-Adjust-Spring-45119-333-000-d-30/391911976705?hash=item5b3fc62f01:g:c7oAAOSwmkpZ7hkR
When I saw that the first thing that sprung to mind was the £12.00 makes an expensive spring!
And then the £13 postage on top!

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Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: sye on July 23, 2019, 12:33:37 PM
DSS sell the 500 return spring at a lot less than that one. I don't know if it fits yours though. Part number 45119-300-020 and looks like below.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Deano400 on July 23, 2019, 05:46:49 PM
Steve has got one with the bolt and nut (used). www.400fourbits.co.uk

HH - 202   BRAKE CALIPER ARM SCREW, SPRING & NUT - GOOD

https://400fourbits.co.uk/1112_PARTS_LEFT/1112-202-2.jpg
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Athame57 on July 23, 2019, 06:40:56 PM
Steve has got one with the bolt and nut (used). www.400fourbits.co.uk

HH - 202   BRAKE CALIPER ARM SCREW, SPRING & NUT - GOOD

https://400fourbits.co.uk/1112_PARTS_LEFT/1112-202-2.jpg
I've just finished being sent the wrong lower hose metal pipe by them...had to try again with DSS
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: taysidedragon on July 23, 2019, 07:32:52 PM
Steve has got one with the bolt and nut (used). www.400fourbits.co.uk

HH - 202   BRAKE CALIPER ARM SCREW, SPRING & NUT - GOOD

https://400fourbits.co.uk/1112_PARTS_LEFT/1112-202-2.jpg
I've just finished being sent the wrong lower hose metal pipe by them...had to try again with DSS
I've bought stuff from him before. Never had a problem,  he's normally very good.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 23, 2019, 11:19:13 PM
I second Taysideragon's endorsement, without Steve's various bits and pieces I would never have completed the 400/4 rebuild. Items are as described and are posted the same day.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: Athame57 on July 24, 2019, 08:34:12 AM
I second Taysideragon's endorsement, without Steve's various bits and pieces I would never have completed the 400/4 rebuild. Items are as described and are posted the same day.
I've done ok too....just that its clear there's scope for error.
Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: gtmdriver on July 24, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
There's one on eBay at the moment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-NOS-CB350-CB360-CB400-Caliper-Adjust-Spring-45119-333-000-d-30/391911976705?hash=item5b3fc62f01:g:c7oAAOSwmkpZ7hkR
When I saw that the first thing that sprung to mind was the £12.00 makes an expensive spring!
And then the £13 postage on top!


Do you need it or not?

These are obsolete bikes with very few spares remaining.

If you want the genuine article then pay the price. The author of the post was asking for the specific Honda item.
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Title: Re: Spring for calliper adjuster wanted
Post by: ricardo on July 25, 2019, 08:57:05 AM
Many thanks.
I'll get a spring. If the wheel still drags I'll consider sticking hydraulic pad as possible culprit
Ricardo
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