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Title: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 21, 2015, 10:43:48 AM
Just dropped through my door
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 21, 2015, 10:49:33 AM
And??
Which comes tops can not get that here ;) ;)
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 21, 2015, 11:06:28 AM
Just read it
In short ....750 for long rides touring etc
500 for fun and short blasts ...
But all in all they are both favourably written up....and as normal comes down to the depth of your pockets cause the 750 has the badge and the title of the first super bike?
But 500 is probably undervalued in comparison?
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on February 21, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
Before I go out to find a copy, can you tell us who wrote the feature and who owns the bikes?

Steve
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 21, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
In my opinion both dammed good bikes reliable and bloody good looking :D
Thanks for that
Bitsa
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on February 21, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
Just read the CB 400f completed resto on page 94 (Classic Bike.Feb addition) I have assumed the article is in the March addition? I don't normally receive mine until the end of the month, a definite read though
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 21, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Words John naish
Both bikes belong to martin young
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: matthewmosse on February 21, 2015, 02:42:29 PM
Will depend very much on the rider too. I rode a mates 750 back from south Wales and foud it rather heavy and not the best riding position. Other owners who have had a go on both have found the 500 too cramped and small. You can of course mitigate most of either situation by swapping bars etc and both are good machines. For me the cb500 has it in terms of value and looks and does brilliantly in the mile munching department too.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Johnwebley on February 21, 2015, 03:30:49 PM
agrees with Mathew,my 500 is fast enough,and about as heavy as I want,
the main styling issue is the end of the exhaust pipes !!!  haven't like them since 1971 !!

I would have styled them like the 750,much neater and easy on the eyes,

living in a rural area,the nimbleness of the 500 is great,and modern tyres make a hell of a difference,
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: steff750 on February 21, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
 ;) i got to go with the 750 it beats it in everything speed and looks the 500 was not thought out at all in my mind,nobody was even riding 500s then ,unless it was a two stroke
the 500 cant pull the skin off a rice pudding and them 500 exhausts have got to be the ugliest ever made so i wont be reading the mag  ;)
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Norniron on February 21, 2015, 05:37:28 PM
;) i got to go with the 750 it beats it in everything speed and looks the 500 was not thought out at all in my mind,nobody was even riding 500s then ,unless it was a two stroke
the 500 cant pull the skin off a rice pudding and them 500 exhausts have got to be the ugliest ever made so i wont be reading the mag  ;)

Jeez steff thats a bit harsh.some of us 500 owners think our bikes are timeless classics.
I would love to find a set of original pipes for mine.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: steff750 on February 21, 2015, 05:53:45 PM
 ;) init
no its just a wind-up , i would love to have a 500 aswell no problem
its just the mag editors they have no real concept of bikes they just think joe public will rush out and buy thier monthly garbage because they think we cant make our on minds up, i like all bikes except cruisers (harleys)even then i would sell body organs for a wla45
 each to his own i say whatever floats your boat
 i even still own and ride two old brittish bikes how sad is that  ;)
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: matthewmosse on February 21, 2015, 08:23:01 PM
Only the 750 I rode back from south Wales had its original honda 4 into 4 pipes, my 500/4 was at its best with a slash cut triumph rockett 3 raygun of 70s vintage stuck to the bsm collector. Went like stink, the only setup that could have the rear wheel spin up on every corner pulling a sidecar. I gave up reading classic bike magazines back when Rod Gibson died. The content was increasingly getting dummed down on all the mags and the pay freeze at work that is still going on was starting to bite.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: toucheturtle on February 21, 2015, 08:30:23 PM
750 looks bloated to me and I luuuv the original 500 pipes. You've got to rev the 500 but what's wrong with that?
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 22, 2015, 11:30:42 AM
How can you put a CB500 up against a CB750 ? Totally two different bikes.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: steff750 on February 22, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
Quote
How can you put a CB500 up against a CB750 ? Totally two different bikes.
;) exactly trigg
 journo's know jack shit lol
 if thats how they sell mags bring it on ,i wont be having any of it, you cant even give old bike mags away these days, no one wants them
i aint bought mags in years,i just have a quick browse in smith's while she's doing the shopping ,and i aint taken her shopping in years either, even that is cheaper if i do it myself
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bryanj on February 22, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
That's an oddball 500 as its a K0 which Honda say was not Imported to UK. Things that make it K0 are the small reflectors on headlamp brackets, seat lock and transfer on side panel under the 500 badge. I would love to know the frame number to see where it fits in the list I have, may have to write to the mag and enclose a letter to be passed on.

Trigger what are your thoughts mate
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 22, 2015, 12:52:25 PM
Martin young (owner) said his dad brought it new in February 73 from a local Sussex dealer..it was gonna be that or a commando?
Official price was £629.  Haggled to £530..
October 74 exhausts rusted out and a new set put on under warranty...
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 22, 2015, 12:58:52 PM
That's an oddball 500 as its a K0 which Honda say was not Imported to UK. Things that make it K0 are the small reflectors on headlamp brackets, seat lock and transfer on side panel under the 500 badge. I would love to know the frame number to see where it fits in the list I have, may have to write to the mag and enclose a letter to be passed on.

Trigger what are your thoughts mate

Cant see with such a small picture but, Febuary 1973 is not a KO.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: UK Pete on February 22, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
I have never riden the 500, my choice of smaller bike was and still is the gpz550
pete
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 22, 2015, 01:50:44 PM
Pete
The 500 was smooth as a babys bum to ride not scary or anything, in my opinion did not get the heart racing but still a damm good mid range bike.I did like the z650 but it had twice as much gear as the 500 so should have been better.If a 500 came across my door at the right price would take it on.
Cheers
Ralph
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: LesterPiglet on February 22, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
Brought bought ..... 8)
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bryanj on February 22, 2015, 06:06:15 PM
Trigger I agree that Feb 73 should not be a K0, but those particular bits were not on the K1, as you know the reflectors were the big ones and there was no transfer. I would love to know if the connector blocks have round pins!
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 22, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Trigger I agree that Feb 73 should not be a K0, but those particular bits were not on the K1, as you know the reflectors were the big ones and there was no transfer. I would love to know if the connector blocks have round pins!

And the forks have the bolt connected to the nut  ;)
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 22, 2015, 06:40:17 PM
Sorry Leicester I stand corrected....I'm either real dumb or spell check got me

Any way if you like spelling etc ...
I will try and post Something over in humour you might like?
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: RGP750 on February 23, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
Had a 500 back in 73 and still say it was the best bike i ever had and if i could find a good one would have it
especially with original pipes. I love my 750 k2 but to me the 500 wins. I'll buy the mag just for nostalgia
sad init.
 
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 23, 2015, 09:07:33 PM
Just dropped through my door

Does it show a number plate on the 500?
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 23, 2015, 09:20:54 PM
BPX 448L
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 23, 2015, 09:37:08 PM
BPX 448L

All 500 K0's have a K reg and i only know of two.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: steff750 on February 23, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
@ trigger
i have a old (photocopy) logbook of a cb500 that was reputed to be the first registered in wales if i can dig it out ill post the number here im almost sure that was L reg.
it was scrapped years ago for spares as that was the norm in them days.long before fleabay ever existed
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 23, 2015, 10:52:30 PM
@ trigger
i have a old (photocopy) logbook of a cb500 that was reputed to be the first registered in wales if i can dig it out ill post the number here im almost sure that was L reg.
it was scrapped years ago for spares as that was the norm in them days.long before fleabay ever existed

It could be the first K1 registered but, not a UK 1971 CB500K0. I have one and Fatboy has the other.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: tom400f on February 23, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
Bitchin'  ;)

But in sure you're right  ::)
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 23, 2015, 10:57:39 PM
Bitchin'  ;)

But in sure you're right  ::)

Tom I do not see 400 written on this thread  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Trigger on February 24, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
Pretty sure £629 was the list price for a K1 not a K0. Seem to recall the price written on my bike when I bought it.

I seriously doubt it's a K0 with a 73 registration, most of those would have been sold in 71, 72 latest. I can't honestly see any dealer not being able to sell a 500 for 2 years, hell the damn things were in BIG demand back then.

It's possible it is a K1 with some K0 parts on it, my K1 is Starlight Gold, which is a K0 colour but I added that colour scheme much later in it's life.

Maybe he restored the 500 without doing his research or he saw yours oddjob and thought it was the right colour for that year ;D
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Woodside on February 24, 2015, 09:28:44 AM
In the article it says it's as his dad got it  except for the new set of pipes in 74..
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bryanj on February 24, 2015, 09:48:29 AM
Ive email the editor asking him to pass on my email addy to the owner, hopefully he will join here and be able to answer some questions.

i rechecked my old US parts book for the K0,K1,K2 and the seat lock and small reflectors were only on the original--Damn thing is an anomally and until i have the frame number i can't put it in context
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: matthewmosse on February 24, 2015, 09:58:01 AM
Does this mean all the uk 500/4 k0 are accounted for? I understand they are somewhat rare, or are they multiplying....
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bryanj on February 24, 2015, 10:22:28 AM
Depends on how much Honda are telling the truth about numbers imported mate
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: bike addict on March 01, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
Hi to all! Apologies that its taken me so long to get on the forum to respond to the kind questions asked about the CB750/4 and particularly the CB500/4 in this months Classic Bike test. The bikes are mine. I can confirm the 500/4 was brought brand new in Sussex. The sales invoice is dated 4th February '73, so I guess it's most probably a 1972 manufactured bike. The bike is as Honda made it apart from the pipes (its third genuine set) and regular service items. Its never been repainted or restored so the side panel stickers and headlamp ears are those which the bike was manufactured with. I had always assumed it was a K1, but after whats been said, could it be a K0?? Be interesting to know. Regards. Bike Addict.
Title: Re: This months classic bike cb500 vs cb750
Post by: Bryanj on March 01, 2015, 02:13:30 PM
Hi there Bike addict, pm me the frame number and i will cross reference it with my "list" ( of which you are welcome to a copy)  to get the build date as against sale date, if you can put the engine number in as well it all helps with the records. Should you want copies I have the very early parts books and workshop manuals

Cheers

Bryan
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