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Title: Replacement tyres
Post by: oldtuggie on January 19, 2024, 11:31:12 AM
1976 550 four supersport, any tyre recommendations would be gratefully received
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Nashfly on January 19, 2024, 11:40:05 AM
I use Avon Roadrider Mk ll on all my classics

I find they're a good mix of grip, wear, ride quality, price and most importantly they don't do that horrible tramlining that affects most of the of the other tyres I've used in the past

They also do a softer compound race version..
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: DomP on January 19, 2024, 04:11:36 PM
Exactly the tyre I'm going to fit on my 550f, I think 100 90 19 and 110 90 18.  Cheapest place I've found so far is Demon Tweeks
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 19, 2024, 05:32:57 PM
That is the cheapest Dom, I trolled about for ages but tyres are always cheapest just after crimbo as the rubber market has a dip which reflects on the price. You generally save about 12% on list in January depending on manufacturer


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Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Skoti on January 19, 2024, 05:49:21 PM
Roadriders are good but don't last, Bridgestone rears cracked between the tread pattern when half worn.
I'm on Michelin Road Classics now, they look a bit skinny when fitted but the bike feels lighter on roundabouts and tight bends  etc.
Expensive tho...
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Oddjob on January 19, 2024, 06:11:46 PM
The amount of miles these classics seem to do these days I doubt the longevity of the tyres is a problem, they'll be cracking with age before they are worn out in most cases.
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Skoti on January 19, 2024, 06:18:20 PM
The amount of miles these classics seem to do these days I doubt the longevity of the tyres is a problem, they'll be cracking with age before they are worn out in most cases.

Aye,
I think that's probably relevant to most folk on this forum, but I still manage around 3000 miles a year and so offer my comments from experience.
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: DomP on January 19, 2024, 06:25:06 PM
That is the cheapest Dom, I trolled about for ages but tyres are always cheapest just after crimbo as the rubber market has a dip which reflects on the price. You generally save about 12% on list in January depending on manufacturer


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I love a good shop around, tight Herefordian you see! 

So are the sizes I mentioned on stock rim sizes ok?
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Seabeowner on January 19, 2024, 06:34:59 PM
I use Avon Roadrider Mk ll on all my classics

I find they're a good mix of grip, wear, ride quality, price and most importantly they don't do that horrible tramlining that affects most of the of the other tyres I've used in the past

They also do a softer compound race version..
Haven't Avon closed up shop now. So probably just old stock left.
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: DomP on January 19, 2024, 06:43:19 PM
I use Avon Roadrider Mk ll on all my classics

I find they're a good mix of grip, wear, ride quality, price and most importantly they don't do that horrible tramlining that affects most of the of the other tyres I've used in the past

They also do a softer compound race version..
Haven't Avon closed up shop now. So probably just old stock left.

I'd assumed they were still being made but not in the UK
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Skoti on January 19, 2024, 08:03:10 PM
Avon motorcycle tyre factory relocated from UK to Montlucon, France. Maybe to remain in the single EU market?
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 19, 2024, 08:15:45 PM
Think so Don, without looking that is. Avon are still here and manufacturing I think, they move this year I heard. Tim Multiman knows more about it if I remember.


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Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Oddjob on January 20, 2024, 03:51:56 AM
The amount of miles these classics seem to do these days I doubt the longevity of the tyres is a problem, they'll be cracking with age before they are worn out in most cases.

Aye,
I think that's probably relevant to most folk on this forum, but I still manage around 3000 miles a year and so offer my comments from experience.

Yes but what you failed to say is how long they last, 4000, 6000, 9000, 12000? I can get 12K out of a rear tyre on a 1300 and that's a bloody heavy lump and that's not toddling around either. Even my worst rear tyre a Dunlop lasted 6K, most of these classics won't do that in 5 years.

Personally I don't mind trading off wear for grip, I look at it as if it saves just one off it's paid for itself
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Skoti on January 20, 2024, 07:25:59 AM
The amount of miles these classics seem to do these days I doubt the longevity of the tyres is a problem, they'll be cracking with age before they are worn out in most cases.

Aye,
I think that's probably relevant to most folk on this forum, but I still manage around 3000 miles a year and so offer my comments from experience.

Yes but what you failed to say is how long they last, 4000, 6000, 9000, 12000? I can get 12K out of a rear tyre on a 1300 and that's a bloody heavy lump and that's not toddling around either. Even my worst rear tyre a Dunlop lasted 6K, most of these classics won't do that in 5 years.

Personally I don't mind trading off wear for grip, I look at it as if it saves just one off it's paid for itself

Yes,
Sorry about that.
Got 3000 miles from a Roadrider rear and 5000 from a Bridgestone BT45.
Michelin Road Classics have done around 4500 miles so far and still looking good.

Once had 10,000 miles from a rear Michelin Pilot Road on my BMW R1150RT, but that was riding about like a very old grandad. Normally last maybe about 7000 miles.

Hope that helps.

Skoti
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: DomP on January 20, 2024, 08:34:55 AM
That is the cheapest Dom, I trolled about for ages but tyres are always cheapest just after crimbo as the rubber market has a dip which reflects on the price. You generally save about 12% on list in January depending on manufacturer


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Too true Roo, my basket has gone up £2 since lastnight😆
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Oddjob on January 20, 2024, 10:23:25 AM
3000 miles is pretty bad, mileage wise.

My Michelin Road Pilot 3 rear lasted 9000 on the 1300, the 4 got just over that, the 5 got even more, the 6 looks to be even better, you’d expect a lighter bike to do better than those figures. I wonder if the roads in your country are more abrasive than the UK?
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Skoti on January 20, 2024, 03:19:31 PM
Last summer I done the NC500 via Harris and Lewis equipped with new Pilot Road 5's on my old Beemer, over 3000 miles round trip and they seemed about half worn after that. So pleased with them.

The roads over here seem mostly better than yours, but the difference is it doesn't piss down with rain much during the summer so that unfortunately increases road surface friction and tyre wear a bit.

Back in the seventies I managed to scrub a TT100 away in 1800 miles on a new Commando, crazy times...

Anyhow your tyre mileages on a CB1300 seem remarkable, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 20, 2024, 04:34:36 PM
I managed to knacker a set of pilot road 5’s in about 6000 miles on the continent and totally agree about more abrasive roads. Scotlands roads that I’ve been on were all super grippy too with granolithic clippings as a surface in some places  so silly grippy. Like the stuff you get in braking areas in front of lights, coming into villages etc.

Also when you’re loaded up touring, it’s extra wear. I’d assume than hooning about one up with a smile on your face……….maybe

I’ve had all the pilot range and on my second pair of 6’s which are incredible!


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Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Nashfly on January 27, 2024, 12:28:54 PM
The amount of miles these classics seem to do these days I doubt the longevity of the tyres is a problem, they'll be cracking with age before they are worn out in most cases.

Aye,
I think that's probably relevant to most folk on this forum, but I still manage around 3000 miles a year and so offer my comments from experience.

Yes but what you failed to say is how long they last, 4000, 6000, 9000, 12000? I can get 12K out of a rear tyre on a 1300 and that's a bloody heavy lump and that's not toddling around either. Even my worst rear tyre a Dunlop lasted 6K, most of these classics won't do that in 5 years.

Personally I don't mind trading off wear for grip, I look at it as if it saves just one off it's paid for itself

Yes,
Sorry about that.
Got 3000 miles from a Roadrider rear and 5000 from a Bridgestone BT45.
Michelin Road Classics have done around 4500 miles so far and still looking good.

Once had 10,000 miles from a rear Michelin Pilot Road on my BMW R1150RT, but that was riding about like a very old grandad. Normally last maybe about 7000 miles.

Hope that helps.

Skoti

Not sure if this helps on this thread or not, but on my 2014 Royal Enfield Continental GT (only about 30 bhp) the Avon Road riders have done nearly 7,000 miles and still have plenty of life in them



Title: Re: Replacement tyres
Post by: Multiman on January 28, 2024, 01:25:51 PM
I've put 3000 miles on my Dunlop K82s last year and you wouldn't know to look at them, but they're on a 400/4 so not that heavy, not very powerful and I don't wear trousers with knee sliders. Yet.
Got lots of friends with classic bikes on Roadriders who are very happy with them.

Avon Tyres produced their last tyre in the UK Melksham factory in December.
Production of bike tyres will continue in France at the same factory that makes Dunlops, both being owned by Goodyear.
More info https://www.speedweek.com/amp/katalog/news/206278/Avon-Zusammenlegung-mit-Dunlop-in-Frankreich.html?lang=en# (https://www.speedweek.com/amp/katalog/news/206278/Avon-Zusammenlegung-mit-Dunlop-in-Frankreich.html?lang=en#)
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