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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB350/400 => Topic started by: Athame57 on October 11, 2018, 03:20:09 PM
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I've been cleaning up my electrics as in pic 1 , cleaned up the regulator and put all back, replaced fuse box assembly no problem....I'm having trouble with the new starter solenoid though. The new one in pic 2 from DSS goes in at a different angle and that threw my memory out as to what goes where. The cable I've arrowed has a loose other end too just now, I can't think where it goes ( Battery positive?? ) . :-\
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Is that the same cable as the red labled in the upper right of the pic?
Battery + terminal?
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Is that the same cable as the red labled in the upper right of the pic?
Battery + terminal?
The red one in the upper right pic2 is the same red one attached to solenoid in right side of solenoid in pic1 ...
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The starter solenoid has 2 large terminals, usually threaded stubs with nuts that wind down, and 2 small terminals/connections.
One of the large terminals should be connected to battery positive as you mentioned. The other large terminal should be connected to the heavy cable that disappears into the side cover/crankcase area that leads to the starter itself. The other 2 smaller terminals are from the starter button and clutch switch and from memory are colour coded so should be easy to identify.
Hope that helps.
Peter
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Just studied your photo 2 more closely. Why have you got 3 leads loose? Something wrong there.
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It looks like the one with the rubber boot at the end (the one not arrowed) is the starter cable. The other one? I can't tell, Possibly an earth strap. Been a long time since I've looked under that cover.
Peter
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Just studied your photo 2 more closely. Why have you got 3 leads loose? Something wrong there.
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It looks like the one with the rubber boot at the end (the one not arrowed) is the starter cable. The other one? I can't tell, Possibly an earth strap. Been a long time since I've looked under that cover.
Peter
Difficult to be sure from the photo, but the battery positive cable may have slipped down and both ends are in the electrics area.
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I think if you study picture 2 you can see the battery positive in top right with a red heat shrink around the end of the cable by the terminal. I see what you're saying but depends on whether Athame57 can confirm if he disconnected both ends of batt +
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If you think of the main lead as one continuous from battery to starter motor, then the solenoid just interrupts this route to enable you to switch it on and off.
So it'll go, ( batt+, solenoid, then other side of solenoid, starter motor+) the smaller solenoid wires just pull the switching in and out on command of starter button.
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I think if you study picture 2 you can see the battery positive in top right with a red heat shrink around the end of the cable by the terminal. I see what you're saying but depends on whether Athame57 can confirm if he disconnected both ends of batt +
Since he replaced the solenoid I would hope he disconnected the battery!
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Difficult to be sure from the photo, but the battery positive cable may have slipped down and both ends are in the electrics area.
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No...
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As I've had the regulator off it couldn't be that one of them goes to that? I don't understand about the two small terminals mentioned by Petermigreen earlier..
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If you think of the main lead as one continuous from battery to starter motor, then the solenoid just interrupts this route to enable you to switch it on and off.
So it'll go, ( batt+, solenoid, then other side of solenoid, starter motor+) the smaller solenoid wires just pull the switching in and out on command of starter button.
Excellent description, just start connecting them from the startermotor up and all goes well!
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I've still got three cable ends and I don't know which goes where though.... is it possible one of the solenoid terminals had two cables go to it?
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That one, bottom left, that you've arrowed, check the other end of that as it could be the battery earth strap.
Is the battery earth strap otherwise accounted for? Or is this it?
It looks like it's not got an insulating cover on the wire? In which way an earth is configured. All positive (they are unused and direct to battery) should have the ends shielded to prevent anything loose touching them, resulting in melting stuff.
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That one, bottom left, that you've arrowed, check the other end of that as it could be the battery earth strap.
Yes...that goes to the battery...
I think I'd better wheel her up the road to the bike shop in the morning?
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If it helps I can take a photo of mine.
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Please Julie! 3rd lead?
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These pics may, or may not help
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If these are no good, I have a CB550/4 here that is easier to get at, even though the solenoid is in a different place, I think the wiring will be the same.....it is also a newly restored bike, so clean 😁😁😁
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Hi Julie...so what i see is the battery positive going to the terminal with the green wire...and the other TWO cables going to the terminal with the yellow ?
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On the 550 there are two connections on ONE of the solenoid studs. One is the heavy duty cable from the battery (+ve) and the other is the main +ve connection that supplies all other bike electrics. The +ve connection is taken from here rather than running another lead back to the +ve terminal of the battery.
I do not know if the 400 is the same. If in doubt then get it checked as the circuit to here is NOT fused.
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Seabeowner is correct, one of the leads goes back to the starter motor, this goes by itself on the green terminal. The others are both positive leads, one goes back to the positive side of the battery and the other is the positive feed for the loom, these both go on the same yellow terminal. If in doubt as to which is which, follow the leads to see where they lead, should be simple to figure out which is which.
In the end that's all I needed to know, it secured the job for me. I still braced myself when I hit the button though! As I was finishing the job I saw a movement out he corner of my eye, one of the courtyards squirrels I'm building up trust with was sniffing around my tool bag!
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I still braced myself when I hit the button though! As I was finishing the job I saw a movement out he corner of my eye, one of the courtyards squirrels I'm building up trust with was sniffing around my tool bag!
And jumped skyhigh as the bike started?
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And jumped skyhigh as the bike started?
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Nah.... they are all gun steady in east London...maybe he heard there was some nuts among the bolts?
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And jumped skyhigh as the bike started?
Nah.... they are all gun steady in east London...maybe he heard there was some nuts among the bolts?
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Make sure the squirrels don't start chewing on your bike or storing nuts in it! :(
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Make sure the squirrels don't start chewing on your bike or storing nuts in it! :(
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Nah....they have their own VW van for that!
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There’s something wrong with that squirrel. We get them there black ones in our garden.
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