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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB750 => Topic started by: UK Pete on July 19, 2014, 09:27:54 AM
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Hi my name is pete i am obsessed with motorbikes, i have a huge affection for the 750 sohc bike in all shapes and forms
Here goes, i know many of you understand the passion and will support me on this one , but at the same time there will be many who will just not get it and poo poo it,
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Confession time
Guys i have bought a sandcast
there we go i feel better now thats off my chest
pete
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Pete
Good luck to you.Hope you can afford to do it mate cos I hate hoarders big time
Cheers
Bitsa
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Top man james i knew you would understand, i will be starting a resto thread in a while
pete
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Pete, you are among friends, you do not have to justify yourself to any of us7 Old Hondas are an addiction, like alcohol or drugs, BUT, there is no "Motorcycles Anonymous" so we couldn't get "better" even if we wanted to! Looking forward to the first instalment and pics. :))
Sent from my GT-S5839i using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks hairy one, resto thread up soon
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Pete
Good luck to you.Hope you can afford to do it mate cos I hate hoarders big time
Cheers
Bitsa
OH!!!! the wife thinks i need to go on that programe hoarders next door, never mind it takes all sorts, i am sure you will like this one its a complete basket case and will be an interesting restoration
pete
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Don't worry about what anyone says Pete that 'Sandy' will be worth more to you than any pension fund? Are you doing it Candy Blue/green or Ruby red? So you will be raving on about 9-hole clutch covers rather than 9-hole golf courses then :D!
One of the other guys who bought a Freddy resto Sandcast , registered on the SOOC site a while back but not heard anything since from him.
Interestingly if you look on Vic World's Website at his testimonials (sounds rude), there is the following entry, Do you reckon that's 'Freddie'
“I put the bike on the lawn, and covered it with a white sheet. My friend is a judge at various motorcycle shows here, who came with his friend who owns a CB750 himself. I pulled the cover off, dramatically, to unveil the bike, neither said a word. They just looked at the bike, then they got closer… and closer… and closer, until they were on their knees! They never spoke for fifteen minutes!...they were pretty impressed.” Will D. (England)
Hope you do an excellent resto thread like you are doing for the K0.
BTW we need to badger David Silver to stock more Yamiya stuff !! Do you think they will ever repro the rolled rear rim? Evidently they do a repro wrinkle tank,which has got to be a real challenge. Kerry (KP) on SOOC reckon's it's indestiguishable from the Honda item (but not the paint).
Cheers ... Ash
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Bloody hell, great... so is it a nice round 10 750's now?
Genuinely look forward to the progress reports - this one will be particularly interesting as such a historical / desireable piece.
More info Pete... its present condition... projected restoration time?
Good luck,
Simon
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Thaks ash , i have been in contact with the other sandcast guy ,he is only 60 miles from me , when i gety the time i am going down there for a ride out with mick (kettle750) on here to meet him, trouble is life is so busy for me at moment its hard to find the time to do everything
pete
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Pete,James
The hoarder bit was not aimed at you lot.Did not make myself clear is was to the french who leave them to rot rather than do them up or sell.
I know here there is a k1 in bits sitting under a ton of logs and will not sell for less than 2 grand.I went to look at it and in this shed in the middle of nowhere its still there no attempt to clear so I could view it.Told him do you like sex and travel.
Cheers
Bitsa
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Bloody hell, great... so is it a nice round 10 750's now?
Genuinely look forward to the progress reports - this one will be particularly interesting as such a historical / desireable piece.
More info Pete... its present condition... projected restoration time?
Good luck,
Simon
Simon no i already had this bike when i had the count up, infact the resto is underway already , i was holding back a bit in fear of getting flamed on the forum, but i am now realising i am amongs so many cyber friends who totally understand, and also i think it helps keeping the forum busy and friendly to do picture resorations , and of course my trusty companion will be assisting as usual
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Pete,James
The hoarder bit was not aimed at you lot.Did not make myself clear is was to the french who leave them to rot rather than do them up or sell.
I know here there is a k1 in bits sitting under a ton of logs and will not sell for less than 2 grand.I went to look at it and in this shed in the middle of nowhere its still there no attempt to clear so I could view it.Told him do you like sex and travel.
Cheers
Bitsa
Hey bitsa no worries i am sure your on side, it sometimes comes across the other way
pete
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I will never come clean ;)
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I don't know how you guys find the time/money to do all these bikes, I am struggling along trying to get one bike done, but still get tempted by "bargains" on ebay and this forum! Pete your wife must be a saint!
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Trigger i have pm'd you about fin restoration,
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I don't know how you guys find the time/money to do all these bikes, I am struggling along trying to get one bike done, but still get tempted by "bargains" on ebay and this forum! Pete your wife must be a saint!
Mick my wife is a saint, she has only come on board with the understanding the last couple of years or so, kids have grown up, i still manage to pay the bills ,and so no one suffers so she realises if i am happy then she is
As for finding the time ,well i run my own one man business so can suit myself when i work, and like wise for the money, just work a bit harder when i need the cash,or in the case of this sandcast i cashed in an isa fund to get this, the return from the banks is so minimal i thought #@%$ it i will invest in another rare bike
dont tell me about tempted by ebay i am the worlds worst or at least was when it comes to buying evryones ebay shite, however i now just by the hard to get parts and NOS parts when i think they are to good to miss
oh and going back to finding the time, i am spending lots of valuable time on the forums lately i need to get out there and stuck in ,but then this is equally rewarding coming on here and sharing banter with you guys, i am going back out to have a polish thats bike bits i mean (http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0260.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php?page=3)
pete
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Pete, i thought you were going off to bid on the silver K1 :)
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No nice as it is i have a k1,
sad as it s i now have no money
pete
got your pm i will try and get photo's of fin damage today i will email you
pete
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Pete I am a driving instructor, so have to spend my money on cars, a f**king Vauxhall Corsa!! Could have bought several SOHCs for the same money!
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Your not fooling anyone Pete, it's clearly this pair that are doing all the resto work! (congrats on getting a sandcast btw)
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Are you sure you've only got one.I bet it's been tucked in the corner all this time and you've only just remembered it.
Mick
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Funny you should say that i have genuinly forgotten about a bike i have had in the past it remained in boxes at the back of my stash and i was going through log books and thought thats strange i thought i had 3 of the same bike it turned out to be 4
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UK Pete's Sandcast - Investment.. or not?
The year 2055... Pete, wife & kids on their third downsize... a tiny home, somewhere far away. Single bedroom, (coz its the only dry spot) given over to a 1969 CB750 Sandcast ... IMMACULATE: just as it left the factory 86 years previously. Family sleeping rough in the living room etc.
Pete is sitting on a goldmine... he knows it... worse, they do too.
Mrs Pete, "C'mon luv, I'm fed up of bread & crisps & DVDs reruns of Eastenders... I've seen 'em all 1000 times. Sell that bloody bike... you know, that Sandy one that was gonna be our pension. Let's buy back our nice 'ouse and treat ourselves to cruises galore & a trip to Mars"
Pete. "No, eff off..."
The Rabbit. "Squeak.. after all them sodding years I've been there for you, telling where to drill, how to set up the carbs, wire bloody lights .... my back side is raw from buffing.....and this is how you repay me.. a life in the fucking Hebrides."
Pete. Kick..
Offspring Pete, "Shite dad, you're too bloody doddery to ride it, you're nearly as old as the bloody thing ... we could all come with you on that Mars holiday. Besides which, I'm fed up of gruel... you were meant to take care of us. Sell it. SELL IT."
Pete. "I've just told your mother & the rabbit.. NO! Sod off. Over my dead body!"
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Ah. ..."Over my dead body"... Nobody kid yourselves, this is no investment plan, pension scheme etc. It can only ever be a commitment, life long love affair whatever.
Besides, who in their right mind would not take such a thing to his grave....
Enjoy the 'adventure' Pete...
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I aplaud you sir, (http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0252.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php?page=3)(http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0252.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php?page=3)hope there aint a hint of truth in that ,(http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0252.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php?page=3)(http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0201.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php)(http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0201.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php)(http://yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0201.gif) (http://yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php)
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You have just got to be careful with NOS parts Pete as an investment. During one of the (many) heated moments with my argumentative daughter she yelled at me " and you can shift that junk you put underneath my bed because if you don't I am taking it all to the tip". The junk was a 750 NOS front mudguard, NOS 750K1 seat and a new set of HM300 pipes? So I shifted them pronto into the loft ! What a cruel dad putting 'junk' underneath her bed :-[
Cheers ... AshD
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Now that is well funny, all my stuff is in the loft or round the side of the house , or all over the garden, basically everywhere but under the kids beds LOL
I forgot to answer your question of colour for the sandcast, it should be candy blue green, and my k0 should be candy ruby red, as you know i had my k0 done in the blue green because i liked that colour, but now i have the chance to use the blue green on the sandy and i can do another set in red for the K0 then its correct, the dury is out on that one at the moment
pete
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Wow that looks pretty tidy I want one now :-\
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James How do you keep finding them?
How many do you have now 20,25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rSsRuZ-rE
Mick
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Yeah have been looking for an original unrestored example for a long long time (like 4 years +) so couldn't resist this one....will post more details when she arrives from the states in a fee months...sorry for the thread HiJack pete...
Looks nice James and a very unmolested original so congrats on another nice find. I went the 'buy an original UK bike' route but it's been a nightmare finding the parts and I am still looking for some of them and probably may never find them. UK supplied early bikes are generally well used during their early lives and fitted in the 70's and 80's with later model parts (mine had K2 seat, HM341's,K1 wheels etc etc) Oh and the crank was Sh***ed but surprisingly the top end was fine (usually the other way round).
Cheers ... AshD
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Yeah have been looking for an original unrestored example for a long long time (like 4 years +) so couldn't resist this one....will post more details when she arrives from the states in a fee months...sorry for the thread HiJack pete...
Looks nice James and a very unmolested original so congrats on another nice find. I went the 'buy an original UK bike' route but it's been a nightmare finding the parts and I am still looking for some of them and probably may never find them. UK supplied early bikes are generally well used during their early lives and fitted in the 70's and 80's with later model parts (mine had K2 seat, HM341's,K1 wheels etc etc) Oh and the crank was Sh***ed but surprisingly the top end was fine (usually the other way round).
Cheers ... AshD
Ash pm sent about a rolled rear rim for your k0..
Cheers James nothing received yet and sometimes I seem to miss PM's people send me on here . My email address is ashley at smartsolutions dot karoo dot uk .......Ash
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Yes I think it is James, there is a subtle difference between a K0 and an early K1. I thought mine was OK but ChrisR (who I consider to be the UK expert along with John Wyatt, told me it was off a K1). Is it for sale? If so I am definitely interested and I will email Chris with your pics if that's OK as he will know for definite if it's off a K0.
Thanks .. Ash
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Yeah feel free to ask him to check it. And yes its for sale only to you..:-)
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I've been thinking what the heck is a Sandcast so did a little investigating and now the penny has dropped for the comment in this thread (http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,6397.msg37915.html#msg37915) about engine paint, cases looking a bit rough as though they were cast in sand or something. Which of you has the Candy Gold one mentioned here (http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down/honda-cb750-sells-for-148100.aspx#axzz386QHwtEs) then ?
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I've been thinking what the heck is a Sandcast so did a little investigating and now the penny has dropped for the comment in this thread (http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,6397.msg37915.html#msg37915) about engine paint, cases looking a bit rough as though they were cast in sand or something. Which of you has the Candy Gold one mentioned here (http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down/honda-cb750-sells-for-148100.aspx#axzz386QHwtEs) then ?
Sorry buy you won't find him on here I don't think and from what I can gather he is in no rush to restore it back to it's former glory. It's evidently been stripped down in parts for at least the last 25 years and it had royal connections too as it was originally owned by Rollo Feilding the Earl of Denbigh, sold to him specially by Honda UK!! Real shame but there you go. The Candy Blue/Green one seems to have disappeared also since Vic World sold it. Unless someone knows differently!! Perhaps UKPete bought it and is hiding it from the missus :D.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Denbigh
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wmiyysql9einpaq/MCM%20CB750%201969%20Brighton%20Bike%201.JPG
Cheers .. AshD
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Yeah feel free to ask him to check it. And yes its for sale only to you..:-)
F-ck i missed out there , i am after a rolled rim for the sandcast and k0,if you find any more James give me first refusal
pete
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I've been thinking what the heck is a Sandcast so did a little investigating and now the penny has dropped for the comment in this thread (http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,6397.msg37915.html#msg37915) about engine paint, cases looking a bit rough as though they were cast in sand or something. Which of you has the Candy Gold one mentioned here (http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/black-side-down/honda-cb750-sells-for-148100.aspx#axzz386QHwtEs) then ?
nice one bodd you sussed it out,
pete
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Sorry pete didn't realise - and we've hijacked your bloody thread as well in the process.
If ash passes I'll let you know...J
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Thanks james
pete
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I shared your view about 5 years ago, something just happens and the obssesion starts, i am so excited about this bike its hard to put into words, however if you read my recent huge flurry of postings you will see how the passion for these bikes has a grip of me, and also you may see that i also regard these bikes as a pension fund, better still a pension fund that i am enjoying all the time right up to when i cash it in, i respect your views oddjob, and when i present a lovely restored example of the 69 cb750 sandcast (be it a few years from now) i would like to think i have earnt some respect for bringing back this legendry bike from the dead
Each to their own though fella do watch my progress even if you dont see the point
pete
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Sorry guys but I just don't see what the big deal is with the K0. Ok it was the first mass production 4 cylinder bike, get that. However compared to the K1 for instance it's a poor cousin IMO. 4 carb cables, no thanks.
If it was a VERY VERY early one I could see it, I had a mate who had frame number 21 for the KH500, that I understood, but when there are thousands between your bike and the first one it kinda loses it's attraction to me. If it had a very famous previous owner, yeah I could get that.
Would I pay mega bucks for a early K0, no I wouldn't. I really don't get it, I don't even think the K0 500 is a better or more attractive option over the K1 and that's my favourite bike, sometimes older isn't better.
Just my opinion and we are all entitled to those, don't wish to upset anyone but I really wish someone would explain to me why they are willing to take a 2nd mortgage out on a bike I feel doesn't warrant it.
There are some bikes I'd pay a little over the odds for, a Z1 for instance, so long as it wasn't the Z1B which was slower and less exciting IMO. Same applies to the CBX1000, love a double shock version of that monster. I test rode the first one in our dealership and I've been in love with it ever since.
You make a fair point oddjob, guess it all comes down to objectivity / personal preference.
I love the pre-k2 bikes. K1 is still my personal preference to ride but there's something 'raw' about the k0's that make them a special bike to me. And I think the styling is the best of the 750 range in my opinion. And to be honest, when the 4-1 throttle cables / carbs are setup properly there's no discernible difference to the k1-on in my view.
And in terms of an investment, I guess the market is kind of dictating that one - It'll have the last word I'm sure....
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Pete I will be the first to say well done for bringing back yet another old SOHC. I get that part, I remember my first restoration, the excitement, the really strong urge to start skipping corners when the bike is 99% complete, the thrill of the first ride. Worth every penny. However I don't understand why someone would pay over the odds for a bucket of parts and a frame when you can buy a later (and IMO a better model of the same bike) for a LOT less and in probably better condition. Plus you get those snobs who look down their noses at K0s which for instance have a few K1 parts on them "oh dear" they say " it's not totally original is it my dear chap".
I'm with you on that last point oddjob re. the whole snobbery thing. That properly pisses me off ha ha..
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My view is whatever floats yer boat guys,Me personally dont like all the painted coachwork saying that if one came along at the right price who knows.I hate the word sandcast not only does it look rough but the pound signs start rotating.
Cheers
Bitsa
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All points taken chaps, if we all had the same opinions woudnt the world be boring, hopefully i will win the 69 bikes a few more fans along the way of this restoration,
As carpy would say peace and grease (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/bad/biker-smiley-emoticon-1.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
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I will always love the Sandcast it's that chopper bobber thing I can't get my head around.
Pete I'm looking at you. :P
Mick
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Yeah Pete for a man of such good taste what's that all about ? ( :-) joking - I get it...)
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Guys , Just remember variety is the spice of life
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+1 from me with James Pete ... sorry for hijacking your thread earlier BTW :-[
I know what everyone is talking about with the snobbery thing. I think the K0/sandcast thing is definitely an unhealthy obsession. To be honest the CB750 never really interested me back in the day, I always hankered after a 500/4 as my first ride on one was mind boggling after the CB250k's I had previously owned and it was widely publicized in the press that the 500/4 was a better bike overall than the 750. Then I left uni and bought an almost new 400/4 followed by three more (still have the last one). A chance meeting with a guy in 2008 at my mate in York's garden party, when all three of us went to his outbuilding, to see his Commando revealed the other guy had the 750K0 and it was a very early UK one. He had just got divorced and realised he would never restore it and bought a Porsche instead. A couple of breakers were after it (one is a mate from Uni too) so I went away, pondered and then bought it before they snapped it up and they broke it for spares. Then the obsession began and a wander over to the SOOC made things a whole lot worse. I wish I could just bung all the perfectly good, but not necessarily correct, parts on it and just finish it off but I can't. I trawl around eBay buying what turns out quite often to be overpriced junk quite often. I even did consider buying one of the four sandcasts Freddie had myself and bunging all of my K0 part onto it but luckily someone else got there first.. phew. To be fair to Pete, the engine looks pretty good so I think personally he got a pretty decent buy at the price. He probably took a punt on it and I do believe it will come good for him in the end. Problem with me is I also bought a really early '69 CB250K0 too and the whole thing repeats itself with rare first year parts, compounded by the fact that the bleedin classic racing fraternity buy up all of the decent hard to find engine parts ! I am under no illusions at all it's an illness and I don't know the cure !
Funnily enough when I got my really nice Parakeet Yellow 400/4F2 nicked from work, I bought a lovely KZ650B1 as an interim. It was a great bike, wire wheels, fast, reliable, standard but someone offered me good money for it and I sold it without hesitation. I have no feelings for it and no desire to own another one. So what's all this obsession with Honda's all about then?
Back to me Ginger beer .. Hey I must go off and type CB750K0 into eBay 'just in case' :(
Cheers .. AshD
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I might as well come clean as well then. Have a k0 of my own on the way (sadly not a sandcast, but a Jan '70 k0 purchased from the original owner!!).
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when does this beauty arrive james
pete
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Prob Oct Mick..
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Prob Oct Mick..
mick??????
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Prob Oct Mick..
mick??????
What
Mick
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I changed it - replied to Pete then corrected it as was you (Mick) who asked. Confused ? :-)
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;) just to chuck another spanner in the works. or add fuel to the fire :-\
I have to agree that the k1 was probably the best of all the cb750s as from a riders point of view as already stated it has the better carbs whist retaining the loud pipes plus a host of other minor tweeks like smaller side panels bigger fork seals stronger airbox ,but they should have kept the plastic clocks .and they sold more k1s than any other models so that speaks volumes for me
people will always want the early stuff because that was first model e.g k0 cb250 I had a k2 although no real changes from k0 it was faster than k3 early zed900s the zed1000 was a better bike
k0 cb750s because that's all we had in uk and k1 was more refined k2 went slower
the early fireblade was a game changer I had a 94 foxeye rrr with better suspension but every model got better every year
Honda always made improvements that is why they are still the biggest and best
so each to his own really you want a sandcast then get one and enjoy it for what it is ,bikes are still fun whatever you ride or restore
just don't expect a crock of gold at the end of the rainbow ;)
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I changed it - replied to Pete then corrected it as was you (Mick) who asked. Confused ? :-)
i asked when the ko was coming, i thought your reply{ oct mick was} reffering to my post, and you had confused me with mick
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;) just to chuck another spanner in the works. or add fuel to the fire :-\
I have to agree that the k1 was probably the best of all the cb750s as from a riders point of view as already stated it has the better carbs whist retaining the loud pipes plus a host of other minor tweeks like smaller side panels bigger fork seals stronger airbox ,but they should have kept the plastic clocks .and they sold more k1s than any other models so that speaks volumes for me
people will always want the early stuff because that was first model e.g k0 cb250 I had a k2 although no real changes from k0 it was faster than k3 early zed900s the zed1000 was a better bike
k0 cb750s because that's all we had in uk and k1 was more refined k2 went slower
the early fireblade was a game changer I had a 94 foxeye rrr with better suspension but every model got better every year
Honda always made improvements that is why they are still the biggest and best
so each to his own really you want a sandcast then get one and enjoy it for what it is ,bikes are still fun whatever you ride or restore
just don't expect a crock of gold at the end of the rainbow ;)
The K1 is no doubt the best of both worlds, i love my k1 it is an unrestored survivor a true beauty of a bike and i bought it at a sensible price, however i always prefered the k0 look and tried really hard to find a nice early one, i thought one would never turn up, then bang! i see fatfreddy had a real early 69 one, well wild horses cound't stop me from going up and getting it, this then led me to the sandcast fascination but i new i could only look and not afford a sandy even though the early k0 in essence is virtually the same
then i see will (freddythefatfrog) had 4 of them but i had no money, i watched as one by one they sold only leaving the basket case i still could not raise the money, i was emailing him asking him all sorts of questions trying to find a reason not to buy it, then i had a brainwave f-ck the Isa it was giving me 1% interest , i see will drop the price down £500 so i took the plunge, i am now happy as larry it will take me a few years to restore k0 and sandcast but then i will have the set, i dont have to wait for the crock at the end of rainbow owning, restoring , riding and posting on here will be my reward,
The F2 is by far the most superior of the 750 sohc bikes, and i really like these as well, trouble is they cost lots to restore properly, but have yet to command decent prices , i have a few more f2,s in the stash but i will sit on them for a few more years
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That's how i bought my K2, just had to convince her in doors money
was no good in the ISA trouble is money i have spent it will take a few years to recoup. Still riding it makes me smile ;D ;D ;D
And i get out from the jobs at home.
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Pete .. Did you get the PM I sent Re: passing the rolled rim onto you, for yor sandcast, that James has? Don't what it is but I sometimes find PM's don't send properly.
Cheers . .Ash
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Yep got the pm ash, thats very kind of you, i am not sure if it is a rolled rim or not james is going to get me a different picture
i will keep you posted
pete
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Bugger, after all that had a look at the rim today and there's a definite 'flat' on the face of the rim (external face that you'd see with the tyre installed) before it radius's down again. Sadly Pete don't think this is the right rim for your bike....
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Oh what a shame guys bet you are both well gutted :'(. They are really hard to detect evidently. I only identified that mine was not correct because of the tell-tale sprocket ring fitted, which was unique to the K1. I even took a cast of it and sent it to ChrisR and he could not be sure but when I showed it to him 'in the flesh' he could identify it instantly as not being 'fully rolled'. Did the guy who sold it to you know what is was from James? I am not sure but I think late model K0's had a slightly flattened rim. We need to ask James May ::) as he has a genuine K0 transition model from France. To be honest I think that rolled rim is an obsession /numbers/money thing. It's not quite the same as the original ducktail seat, which to me, is a thing of true beauty. I looked at Vic Worlds eBay feedback when he sold the blue pp bike. He had sold a dealer take off seat for over $2k in around 2006 (date may be wrong) wow!!
For everyone who doesn't know what I mean take a look at the photo attached of YLY70H, the UK press bike, I believe after restoration. Not even a Yamiya repro looks exactly like that, with it's distinctive dual step and pronounced ducktail. The original foam was evidently of block construction and decayed very quickly. Surely someone could repro it exactly using the original idea of a harder piece in the 'ducktail'. I gather the Yamiya red foams are one piece/single hardness.
Cheers ... AshD
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Never mind about the rim they are proving to be quite rare,
is the duck tail seat original ? then what seat does the yamiya copy as is quite different to that
pete
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Never mind about the rim they are proving to be quite rare,
is the duck tail seat original ? then what seat does the yamiya copy as is quite different to that
pete
Not sure Pete but the pic of YLY certainly look like the seat I remember seeing as a schoolboy ogling at the K0 in the window of the Honda dealers near to my house in 1970. Also if you look at the picture attached of Dick Emery's bike, it looks the same. I think the Yamiya cover or 'skin' as they call it, is correct but the shape of the foam is different and not dual hardness (i.e the hump is not harder than the foam blocks). The original foam was block construction of many pieces and didn't age well. I would think any originally fitted seat from 69/70 would have aged quite badly now, even if it was a 'dealer take off or even NOS. Also, Mick's 750 seat looked the same when he bought it off Eamon but I don't want to post a pic without Mick's permission.
Evidently YLY70H may be coming up for sale after disappearing for many years. Rumour has it at the next Stafford show Bonhams but that's just gossip really. I should leave the gossiping to the missus :D
Cheers .... Ash
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It amazed at the depth of knowledge on this site.
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Hi Pete I have what's left of my Ducktail seat the red foam and the seat base, the foam needs attention to the lower edges and same for the pan, it's yours for the price of postage , I don't want to throw it away as it may be of use to someone? cheers Mick ;)
http://s234.photobucket.com/user/mcpuffett/media/07_zpsc4fed97f.jpg.html
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Hi Pete I have what's left of my Ducktail seat the red foam and the seat base, the foam needs attention to the lower edges and same for the pan, it's yours for the price of postage , I don't want to throw it away as it may be of use to someone? cheers Mick ;)
http://s234.photobucket.com/user/mcpuffett/media/07_zpsc4fed97f.jpg.html
See what I mean about that ducktail bit at the back Mick/Pete. If Pete takes it, whicH I am sure he will, it may be worth getting a CAD drawing of the profile at the ducktail and I could get the foam hardness analysed.
Cheers .. Ash
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attached a nice pic of the correct fully rounded, sandcast early K0 rear rim.
Cheers ... AshD
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Pete is this where Will sourced your side stand?...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221507878292
Cant seriously believe they're asking £180 for this....??
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James
Should be more like 1.80 and free post these people live in cuckoo land
Cheers
Bitsa
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yep i recon that is where it came from,
pete
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Hi Pete I have what's left of my Ducktail seat the red foam and the seat base, the foam needs attention to the lower edges and same for the pan, it's yours for the price of postage , I don't want to throw it away as it may be of use to someone? cheers Mick ;)
http://s234.photobucket.com/user/mcpuffett/media/07_zpsc4fed97f.jpg.html
Hi mick thanks for the offer, i have a red foam seat in similar condition so i will pass on that, ash might have it
pete
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No worries i'll stash it in the loft someone may make use of it in years to come ? ;) cheers Mick.
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Mick I could make use of the pan and foam if that's ok with you?
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Yeah no prob's James leave it with me and i'll get some postage quotes for you cheers ;)
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Mick I could make use of the pan and foam if that's ok with you?
You pipped me to that one James but no worries I didn't really want it to use , I just wanted to get a CMM profile on the ducktail bit to get the profile onto CAD and have the hardness of the foam/foam structure of the ducktail bit analysed. How about Mick posting it to me and I send it on to you after I have had it measured and share the data with everyone on here and SOOC? Depends on shipping costs though? Or maybe you could get it measured?
Cheers ... Ash
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Yeah happy for it to go round the houses Ash if mick is Ok with it? I don't have scanning facilities here....
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Yeah I'm happy to send it were ever in the interest of others ;), Ash can you pm me your address plz, I usually use parcel2go or interparcel anyone know of a cheaper courier? cheers Mick.
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PM sent Mick. I have been using MyHermes lately Mick, takes a while to arrive but great prices and service ... so far anyway
Cheers ... Ash
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I always us MyHermes. You can book them via www.interparcel.com
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Interparcel and parcel to go are both good, they really showed royal mail how to do it
pete