Honda-SOHC
SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB750 => Topic started by: Trigger on April 16, 2019, 06:03:41 PM
-
A UK K5, no such thing. Colour wrong, ears from a K2, chrome chain guard :o, handle bars wrong and the wrong switches, left looks like a super dream and both running on the outside of the bars >>>
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-K5-SOHC-Original-UK-Bike-Stunning-Condition/254194310254?hash=item3b2f295c6e:g:Bl4AAOSw8KpcrJJn
-
It still looks nice 👍 but he needs to modify his advert to be more realistic / accurate. I guess somebody will buy it and be as happy as a pig in shit until somebody points out all the incorrect details :-[
-
Get the side-panel badges on the right way round, fit a trim to the tank and ride it ;D
-
He has a lovely dog...
-
Can't remember ever seeing a red zone that goes past the figures, is that correct?
Paintwork looks nice though.
Probably from here
https://www.partsnmore.com/parts/honda/cb750k/?filters[fitting]=custom
-
That looks remarkably like the one a guy from Stafford had for sale last week for 5995 on vjmc right down to the back to front badges. He got really upset when those errors were pointed out to him!
-
I like these bikes and all the observations. They make me feel better about mine. Learning all the time. It's a nice day, I think I'll get mine out and polish the frame.
-
Can't remember ever seeing a red zone that goes past the figures, is that correct?
Paintwork looks nice though.
Aftermarket clocks >>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-750-CB750-K4-K5-K6-K-4-5-6-NEW-CLOCK-TACHO-REV-COUNTER/292832709175?hash=item442e308a37:g:EZ8AAOSwSONb-nQB
-
To my untrained eye...it's a nice looking usable bike.
The issue is, it's being made out to be far more than it really is...and given a price to match. It's not a pristine and totally original bike.
I don;t mind bikes like that...and when my 750 is done...it won;t be a concours nut and bolt resto, but will rather be like I remember them back in the day. When we used to put spongy foam hand grips on, fit ALFA 4-1 pipes and clipons despite not being able to fit matching rearsets ... When the sensible lads fitted Rickman Polaris fairings, and the fast guys had fork braces and horrid fibreglass front mudguards. Well..actually...we used to bolt some utter shite on in the belief it made us cool...but it's how I remember these bikes in the 80's when they were far from classics, but just 'transport'.
I don't like artificial inflation of prices...
-
What would it cost to put right? The errors are only small things. Naughty calling it a UK bike though if it's a USA import made to look UK.
-
I'm by no means an expert, but why is this not a UK bike, it seems some of the parts are correct e.g handle bars, rear light bracket?
Tha DVLA website says this bike was first registered in August 76 (poss manufactured late 75) in which the use of K5 might just be an uninformed owner/seller thinking K1 is 71, K2 is 72 and so on?
-
It is a UK bike but, a K6 in a USA K5 colour with wrong clocks, switches, handlebars, ears, indicator stems and so on. The error is not only small thing but, a good set of clocks can set you back £300 and to find UK spec switches that are very rare, the costs will mount up ;)
-
What would it cost to sort it correctly Trig, £1000 maybe if you accept the K5 paint? That puts it at 10.5k, is that too much? Just interested in the costs of these things that's all, I won't be buying it.
-
The point i am trying to make is: I assess bike that some customers wish to buy and what i have found is most are just tarted up to look good. When questioning some of these seller, i have had replies like, well, i see one for sale at 10 grand so mine is worth that. At this point i was looking down and noticed a CB550 hub and swinging arm fitted to the CB750 K1 :o
-
I fully agree with you Trig, I personally enjoy your fault finding posts. Just interested in what it would cost to put right when someone not in the know ends up buying it. Clearly this guy is just trying to make a quick profit as another member spotted it earlier on the vjmc website.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
-
Cost to get it correct is always a hard on, you go to remove one part and then find something else. Eg: go to put the correct ears on and find out that all the mounting rubbers are perished and the fork stanchions need to be done ££££
-
Cost to get it correct is always a hard on,
Does Julie know that costing a bike has that effect on you?
;D ;D ;D :o
-
Can I pitch in with questioning the drilled disc, and he says it sounds great, are there baffles in those pipes? It may be just the lighting and photos.
Wires outside the bars and backwards wing badges always get my goat, definitely not a hard on, ;) I'd change those on day one.
While we're at it, put me down for spotting the red plug caps, cheap generic horn and missing tacho cable guide. Sorry, but you did say it was original.
-
Badly fitted repo' seat covers always looks naff and puts me off looking any further. The frame paintwork looks too good to be original. No baffles in the silencers can't be good for the carburation, no way is this bike original and not worth the asking price, i would prefer to spend my money on this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-1970-Honda-CB750-K0-Very-Original-Bike-Please-See-Pics-Only-9-995/254190842305?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3D81c9472acc214e4c8ef09b8cd7776aed%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D254194310254%26itm%3D254190842305&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
-
If i was spending big bucks on a bike like that i would be most grateful to be told its not what it seems before i parted with my cash , keep up the good work Graham ;D
-
If i was spending big bucks on a bike like that i would be most grateful to be told its not what it seems before i parted with my cash , keep up the good work Graham ;D
Agreed, but there are some folk out there with more money than sense who look at classic bikes and cars as pure investment and/or can't be bothered to do their own research - these are the intended prey of the less scupluios sellers. Can't say I have too much sympathy for this sector of the buying public.
'Caveat Emptied me Wallet' and all that.............
-
Some of these bikes are like the good looking girl in the bar, you know if you take her on it will cost you a fortune ;D ;D ;D
-
Some of these bikes are like the good looking girl in the bar, you know if you take her on it will cost you a fortune ;D ;D ;D
Or break your heart when the red warning light suddenly comes on.
-
Badly fitted repo' seat covers always looks naff and puts me off looking any further. The frame paintwork looks too good to be original. No baffles in the silencers can't be good for the carburation, no way is this bike original and not worth the asking price, i would prefer to spend my money on this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-1970-Honda-CB750-K0-Very-Original-Bike-Please-See-Pics-Only-9-995/254190842305?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3D81c9472acc214e4c8ef09b8cd7776aed%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D254194310254%26itm%3D254190842305&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
Those photographs aren’t up to much to say they are asking you to part with 10grand.... you’d have to go look in person if they can’t do any better than that..
-
And another one, original my arse. Wrong oil tank on this, that is why the panel doesn't fit correct. Tail light light and its bracket wrong and also the grips >:( >>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-HONDA-CB750-K0-Legendary-Bike-UK-Registered-And-Serviced/264298140901?hash=item3d896594e5:g:GF4AAOSwcaZcr4dg
-
I know that I'm no expert or I wouldn't have been so easily conned when I bought my bike on e-bay but it does make me feel guilty about seeing these bikes and thinking 'well at least I didn't pay that much'. Also, still bearing in mind my ignorance, how can you tell that it's got the wrong oil tank. I can't even see the damned thing, let alone identify it.
-
Keep them coming Trig.
I wouldn’t have spotted that either.
Steve
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Sometimes, it's a question of having a deep knowledge of a specific model.... and I know I lack the skill to do that...but there are others exploiting the 'SOHC Classic Bandwagon' which get me annoyed. Here is one example.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-CB-750-F2-1977-BARN-FIND-Project-ride-or-restore/323175501837?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3Daaf2ec4b7c7747e3af88208274ca9827%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183594260724%26itm%3D323175501837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
This was up for sale at that money last year when I bought my F2. For less than half that money.
Or this sort of thing:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-F2/183594260724?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D4579ea2f7b2143d2954068c5d37b651d%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D183594260724%26itm%3D183594260724&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
Where the thing is blatantly a tarted up and overpriced. Mind you...I encountered stock from this very same place, and it was hiding many 'issues' including swingarm bearings so shot the swingarm hit the pillion footrest hangars and had a brand new MOT from....them. ~They send all their stock out to ber valeted...and silicon spray everything to make it look shiny. They also offered a full 12 month warranty on the engine and gearbox...which excluded all moving parts. Cams, crank, pistons, bores, camchain, clutch, gears, selectors....valves, guides, springs, bearings. Apparantly it WOULD cover the crankcases for faults excluding accident damage. But not a cracked barrel casting or damaged liners.
-
The 750F2 mentioned by SumpMagnet is from Rick Proops at RAP Superbikes in London. That guy is a total con man STAY AWAY FROM HIM.
My mate bought a GS750 from him that was on eBay offering a full MOT. He took a £500 deposit and delivered it. Had I been there when it was delivered it would have been sent straight back but he accepted it and paid the £4000 balance. I would have valued the bike at around the 2 to 2.5k mark at the very most.
The bike was close to scrap and no way an MOT worthy bike. We had it MOT'd again locally the next morning and it failed on 14 items with some being major, the thing didn't even run correctly. He complained to VOSA about the dodgy MOT and as you can expect absolutely nothing was done about it. He had paid 4.5k for it thinking it's got a full MOT and from a dealer he can't go wrong.
After months of back and forth with the guy I convinced him to go to the small claims court. As soon as the court papers landed in London he was on the phone offering to pick it up and bring a cash refund plus whatever costs he had incurred. This was accepted and all was good again and put down to a bad experience. One week later the same bike showed up on his website for sale offering a full MOT again. We could clearly see from the photo's that the repair work had not been done. CON MAN ALERT.
-
Ive become quite disillusioned with the whole classic bike thing , lots of people trying to make lots of money from someone elses passion , im seroiusly considering selling my 400 & 550 very likely at a loss and buying a modern Jap bike . Rant Over
-
That's what happened to my mate with the GS750. He looked at my classics and fancied a go. After the Rick Proops fiasco he bought a brand new Triumph Street Triple. Tells everyone now that the classic scene is full of con men, and he is correct.
-
Agree Roy , bikes are a passsion of mine but i think it may have to be in a modern one.
-
Ive become quite disillusioned with the whole classic bike thing , lots of people trying to make lots of money from someone elses passion , im seroiusly considering selling my 400 & 550 very likely at a loss and buying a modern Jap bike . Rant Over
That would be a great shame Dave.
-
There are con men in all areas of life, including the banks, the politicians, the police, the media....(all the institutions that you thought you could rely on when you were a kid growing up) not just on ebay, thats life. don't let them spoil your pleasure, use your intelligence and experience to steer clear of them where possible. Ignore them, don't let them put you off.
-
Yep as above, we've a family policy of ignoring the crap, cut out the noise that's in everything nowadays, making sure you plan to do what you want to do and getting stuck into things that interest you. There doesn't have to be reason to it, just enjoying it is fine, plain and simple.
One of the things I do with trying to guide my kids is ask the question at the end of a day "what's your favourite thing you've done today?" just makes you think toward the positive.
I really like seeing old bikes and cars out any about too, always interesting to find out from owners about them.
-
Publicity is the best defence against the likes of (c)RAP Superbikes and their ilk.
If people check places like this, ask for advice, and follow common sense....these things can be avoided. But...lets be honest...any vehicle, not just a classic one, can be a hound.
I bought an MT03 a few years back. In excellent order with only 3000miles on the clock. It was hideous. The bike was Japanese, but assembled in Italy. All the electrics were 'Magnetti Marelli' and the wiring was made of spaghetti. The connector blocks were carefully sited where they could collect the muck and corrode, the tail bulb blew for a past-time from vibration...but you couldn't remove the glass...the bulb had to go in from the back...after you dismantle half of hte brackets at teh back. It also held it steady using teh number plate bolts....yeah...the plastic ones...
In the 3 years I had it, I had to rewire all the rear of the bike, moving connectors to where they were safe from crud, replace the tail light assembly and remake all the brackets. It also hid the battery under the tank....oh...and it blew the reg/rec and cooked two batteries. The exhaust ran under the seat....but was mild steel...so rotted.
It was in as-new condition when I got it, and the dealer had serviced it properly before I picked it up. All really good. Just a rubbish bike poorly made.
This is why I have bought a project to build from the ground up. Then I know exactly what state it's in, what is new, what quality of parts have been fitted, and no concerns over what brain dead ape attacked it with mole-grips and a lump hammer. Coz it was me!
But threads like this highlight the shysters, the chancers, and the money men trying to exploit the classic bike scene with poorly advertised and misleading descriptions.
-
Don't stop doing what you enjoy because of parasites. They're part of life. Be suspicious and careful, do your research and most of all never believe that this is the chance of a lifetime. If there's one now, there'll be more in the future. I do all of this and still get caught out because whatever you do it involves other people and some of them are greedy and amoral. I got well and truly had over on my CB750 but Julie and Trigger saved the engine and parts and advice from a very tolerant Jamesh_Sussex have enabled me to head in the correct direction. That's the other side of the coin.