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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB750 => Topic started by: JamesH on October 10, 2020, 08:17:33 PM
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Just in case anyone's considering bidding on this, I strongly advise you not to. The frame is a (poor) re-stamp which renders this pretty much worthless. Have pointed this out to the seller's (DK) who don't seem too bothered and haven't updated the advert even after in pointed this out. See below photo they sent me of headstock VIN stamping.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333745289466
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I’ve lost count of the amount of bikes I’ve had on watching from that seller.
Most have no reserve and if they are not achieving what he wants for them, he pulls the ad just before it’s due to finish.
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I’ve lost count of the amount of bikes I’ve had on watching from that seller.
Most have no reserve and if they are not achieving what he wants for them, he pulls the ad just before it’s due to finish.
I'm not knocking DK per-se, just didn't want anyone falling into a rather expensive mistake. They're a good outfit and the scale they provide in terms of spares availability massively helps our restoration community.
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Looks like the numbers have been cleaned out with a pin or nail making it messy ,you can see where its slipped on on of the digits, could it just be that making it look rough, although you can also see angle grind Mark's, meaning it might well of been ground and stamped,
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Interesting their description states that it had a replacement engine, which they say was stamped with same number as chassis. Strange just wonder if the numbers on it have had a re-stamp as well.
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Looks like the numbers have been cleaned out with a pin or nail making it messy ,you can see where its slipped on on of the digits, could it just be that making it look rough, although you can also see angle grind Mark's, meaning it might well of been ground and stamped,
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It's 100% a restamp Pete imho - the font is completely wrong
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Just maybe it had a replacement frame when not very old(or a nos one later) as frames come blank like the cases
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Looks like the numbers have been cleaned out with a pin or nail making it messy ,you can see where its slipped on on of the digits, could it just be that making it look rough, although you can also see angle grind Mark's, meaning it might well of been ground and stamped,
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It's 100% a restamp Pete imho - the font is completely wrong
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Here's the correct font from my 11/70 K1 (ex-Pete's), I'm assuming the font didn't change from the K0?
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Even the engine looks to be late K1 early K2 :o
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Ignoring the stamps. The bastard file marks say enough.
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The bastard file marks say enough.
No need for swearing, Moorey!
It does have all the hallmarks of a ringer though, why you would ever take the numbers off any frame for honest reasons is beyond me. Of course to anyone who knows these bikes as well as we do, going for 'matching numbers' is a big mistake, we've seen that a few times.
I'm now on my third bike re-registered in the UK after being imported from overseas markets. Not wanting to put ideas into bad people's heads, but particularly where manufacturers, insurance companies and police forces have long since binned their old records, I can see absolutely nothing to stop a bike that was half inched in country A long ago being registered as a legitimate import in country B, I have never had an overseas title or been asked for one. Well, nothing to stop you other than a crudely altered frame or engine number.......
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Even the engine looks to be late K1 early K2 :o
Graham,
Was there a changeover engine number where the early K1 square-flattened off K1 barrel transitioned to the later K1/K2 barrel?
Cheers,
Andrew
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The K1 barrels with the flat had engine bolts with separate washers on the M6 and was early K1. The later K1 had M6 bolts with a flange bolt.
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The K1 barrels with the flat had engine bolts with separate washers on the M6 and was early K1. The later K1 had M6 bolts with a flange bolt.
Many thanks Graham,
I did a bit of research last night after your reply (when I knew what I was looking out for) as I wondered whether my 11/70 K1 (engine No 1067553) had the correct barrels and John Wyatt's book says the M6 flange bolts change came in at CB750E 1064092 so I'm assuming at this point the early barrels with the flat edge were discontinued and the round edge were used in production on the later K1/K2.
In which case my K1's round barrels are correct - this survivor bike was previously owned by Chris Rushton and UK Pete and hasn't been messed with, so I was curious when I read one of your previous posts about identifying the K1 barrels.
Cheers, Andrew
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No ones knows when the barrel change came in by number. Honda sold bikes and when the bolts ran out, they went on to a new box. It would of been the same with the barrels.
Not uncommon to see the rounded type fitted to a K1 and not uncommon to see a K1 head that was fitted to a K2 at the factory ;) But, the factory never fitted the round front to a K0.
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No ones knows when the barrel change came in by number. Honda sold bikes and when the bolts ran out, they went on to a new box. It would of been the same with the barrels.
Not uncommon to see the rounded type fitted to a K1 and not uncommon to see a K1 head that was fitted to a K2 at the factory ;) But, the factory never fitted the round front to a K0.
Thanks Graham - I thought I'd PM'd you with my question above so as not to hijack this thread, but failed miserably!
But what you say makes perfect sense and not unlike what went on with Triumph (TR sports cars) - even the dealers were swapping parts over and nicking tool kits etc.
Cheers, Andrew