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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB350/400 => Topic started by: AshimotoK0 on October 20, 2017, 07:35:15 AM
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The UK registered press 400/4 was a Euro import (JGC 606N ... still around but owner is very secretive about it's very existence ....real shame !)
I know there are probably 1974 reg's around but they are all imports AFAIK and not genuine UK registered so don't count. Mine is August 1975 and registered by Cowies in Sunderland MBR 491P.
Anyone on here got a '75 ?
For a mere fiver the DVLA and V888 form I got a whole wadge of history photocopies for it including the first dealer reg ect. (I suspect it was their demo bike at Cowies)
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Ha ha US imports don’t count
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Ha ha US imports don’t count
Don't worry James USA CB500K0's do count in my book :), as the bike was never officially sold here.
Someone is going to chime in 'they are all Japanese imports'.
Have you got a 400 then James ? Lovely bikes ..you are missing out if you don't even though they are small.
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Hi Ash,
I have a US import 400/4 (which I know doesn't count!) and the frame number is in the low 500's and engine number just 50 above that. The cockeyed DVLA system of going back to the beginning of the year on imports put mine on an M reg, which sort of p'd me off at first, until they shot themselves in the foot with a very early tax exemption for it, thus saving me money before I expected and coming from Yorkshire, had me buying drinks all round 🤡
On the subject of the V888, the DVLA have tightened up considerably on that very recently and I have benefitted in the past from finding useful history for vehicles, it's now nigh on impossible to get your fivers worth. I tried with an MGR V8 I've just bought without success and many others are finding the same.
Just wanting to have a history file on an important vehicle doesn't count anymore.
Ian
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Ha ha US imports don’t count
Don't worry James USA CB500K0's do count in my book :), as the bike was never officially sold here.
Someone is going to chime in 'they are all Japanese imports'.
Have you got a 400 then James ? Lovely bikes ..you are missing out if you don't even though they are small.
Ha ha no not got one Ash. In all honesty they’re a bit small for me. I’d love one in the collection at some point but would seem a waste if I didn’t use it. That said, I’m not using a lot of my bikes at the moment...
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Mine's a 1975 - 28th August to be exact. Also my mum's birthday.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, they are all imports! Honda has never manufactured motorcycles in this country to date. 8)
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I've a road test for that one Ash, JGC606N.
Motorcycle sport June 1975.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, they are all imports! Honda has never manufactured motorcycles in this country to date. 8)
Ha Ha ;) read my earlier post Kev .."Someone is going to chime in 'they are all Japanese imports".
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Come on Kev, get with it...
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I've a road test for that one Ash, JGC606N.
Motorcycle sport June 1975.
Great ..Any chance of a scan for the 'Dropbox links' please I bought the MCM one off eBay and the pages were missing with the road test ! Remember buying it 'back in the day' though in '75 ..then trundling down to Cowies in Sunderland to look at a Varnish Blue one in the shop window...may well have been the one I own now !
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Mine was a cynical type reply more in reference to the 1974 bikes not being genuine UK registered, well someone best call the police, i have a 350 four that is not a genuine UK registered bike, i can absolutely assure you it is genuinely a Honda and it's genuinely UK registered, maybe not in 1972 but genuinely UK registered. 8)
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I've not got a scanner available, would photo be any substitute of the pages?
Failing that I could post it to you to scan and return, let me know.
Nigel.
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Mine's a 1975 - 28th August to be exact. Also my mum's birthday.
That's a bit weird Mike I'm sure your older then 42 :P :P ;D
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Ash, I have a test in Bike magazine from July 75 if you're interested. Three pages "Poor Boy's Musclebike" JGC 606N
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I've not got a scanner available, would photo be any substitute of the pages?
Failing that I could post it to you to scan and return, let me know.
Nigel.
Cheers Nigel...Pretty sure it would photo OK
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Ash, I have a test in Bike magazine from July 75 if you're interested. Three pages "Poor Boy's Musclebike" JGC 606N
Yes please !!
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Mine's a 1975 - 28th August to be exact. Also my mum's birthday.
Just checked my docs mine is one day before yours Mike ..... 27th August 1975 Frame:1044410 Engine:1041498
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Got a low number
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US model though :(
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If not, I'll have to try to capture another way.
Nigel.
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Also have 1974 750 K2 reg VPK108M in motorcycles sport, if that's of interest let me know.
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In addition to what K2-K6 kindly scanned. I have scanned the 2010 CMM doc 'Then --- Now ' Which includes the '75 MCM original review (below in Dropbox link) :- it's not my fault that the text is distorted near the centre stapling .. Morton's article was like that ..you would have thought they, if anyone, could have found a decent copy to include! :(
That press test bike Reg. No. JGC 606N, which was a Euro spec model, it is definitely still in existence and I have a pic of it as it was found ... in a very sorry state ... BUT ...if I posted it on here I may end up like that Jesuit Priest in Gunpowder :)
Also found a guide to CB250K's from an old CMM but so many glaring errors I can't bring myself to scan it and put it on here ... I think the journo was a Yam-man !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oq6uywih2cd0fio/CB400F%20now%20and%20then%20Review.pdf?dl=0 (UPDATED)
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Thanks for posting that, Can't wait to read it.
Is there a page missing?
Peter
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As you say Ash, some of these tests appear to hold quite a significant bias in how the bikes are judged against a journalist's preference. It's often delivered as a two versus four stroke scenario or from this time specifically, Japanese against another national bike influence. Sometimes overtly and other times with a snide after taste.
There always seemed to be a huge suspicion of engines that revved, gearboxes with too many ratios and pathological pursuit of acceptance of wide open throttle in top gear at the slowest road speed (phew) :) as if changing gear on a bike is any sort of chore.
That last part I think is important to some of the other threads on here, that desire to let the engine lug along in top gear when you want to accelerate, rather than change down and spin it higher up their rev. It doesn't suit their smaller capacity motors at all and may damage them I feel.
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Any Lugging is bad as its low oil pressure at high bearing load
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Agree with Nigel and Bryan re lugging. My bike hates it. That's why when riding my CB400/4 hard, it always reminds me of riding a 2 stroke !!!
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Thanks for posting that, Can't wait to read it.
Is there a page missing?
Peter
Oh sh*t ..yes .. 2 pages missing will correct
CORRECTED WITH MISSING PAGES ADDED ! :-[
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oq6uywih2cd0fio/CB400F%20now%20and%20then%20Review.pdf?dl=0
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Thank you
Peter