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Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: Moorey on January 29, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
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Has anyone got any real world personal experience with Cheng Shin tyres.
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Has anyone got any real world personal experience with Cheng Shin tyres.
I once did a parade lap of the Isle of Man TT course on a CB750F2 on closed roads with Cheng Shin tyres fitted. I would rather ride on the rims than do that again. They were all over the place, one of the most frightening experiences of my biking life. It's a bit like my enduro days when using knobblies on the road, they feel like they are creeping across the road and about to lose traction. Not sure if they actually are but it sure doesn't give you any confidence to go quick. I use nothing but Avon Roadriders now, those Cheng Shin babies went in the bin.
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I have them on a 1 1/2 ton cherry picker there fine up to 60mph. ;D
I wouldn't put them on my bikes as I am more then happy with my Conti RB2's and K112's
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Fine on pedal to go mopeds and maybe restricted C50's otherwise fit them round dartboards
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I have a ribbed 18" Cheng Shin tyre fitted to the front of my CB400/4. Bloody brilliant. Lovely soft compound which is what I like and it sticks to the road like shit to a blanket. I ride the 400 hard and have 100% confidence in the front tyre, will defo buy another when time to replace. I should add I don't have one of these fitted to the rear, I would wear it out in 500 miles 😀😀😀
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Whats it like in the rain Julie? As I can guarantee it is goint to rain every time I get the bikes out.
I did have some on a transit van they gripped OK but didn't last long
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Not tried them in years. I would bet that they have learned a thing or two in those years. They were not too awful back then. I think I had them on a gs125 and we used them on the wifes car, til it had a seized gearbox mid drive and did a triple rollover skid. - we went off trying to save pennies after that, though to be fair to the tyres, it was a gearbox lockup, not much we could do about it.
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Whats it like in the rain Julie? As I can guarantee it is goint to rain every time I get the bikes out.
I did have some on a transit van they gripped OK but didn't last long
Stick to your Contis if you plan on going out in the rain Mick 😁😁😁 I got caught out in the rain once or twice on the 400/4 and still got home in one piece with no problem but no, not the best tyre for water sports 😀😁😁
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I have a ribbed 18" Cheng Shin tyre fitted to the front of my CB400/4. Bloody brilliant. Lovely soft compound which is what I like and it sticks to the road like shit to a blanket. I ride the 400 hard and have 100% confidence in the front tyre, will defo buy another when time to replace. I should add I don't have one of these fitted to the rear, I would wear it out in 500 miles 😀😀😀
Julie do you shit on blankets often?😂, i have no experience of it or Cheng shin tyres🤣
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I don't normally make more than 1 comment but in this case I will make an exception. Lets be blunt, the Cheng Shins that were on my 750 were shite in the extreme so just don't do it. The only thing holding you to the road, 2 very small patches of rubber. Value your life and pay a bit more for decent tyres. Try the matching back tyre Julie you will see what I mean. As for going out in the rain on them, are you mad. DONT BUY THEM.
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I don't normally make more than 1 comment but in this case I will make an exception. Lets be blunt, the Cheng Shins that were on my 750 were shite in the extreme so just don't do it. The only thing holding you to the road, 2 very small patches of rubber. Value your life and pay a bit more for decent tyres. Try the matching back tyre Julie you will see what I mean. As for going out in the rain on them, are you mad. DONT BUY THEM.
Thanks for the advice Roy. I wouldn't fit them to a CB750/4, the bike is just too heavy for that sort of tyre. Money or having matching back and front tyres isn't the issue either. I always have softer compound rubber on the front of mid range bikes and I never have matching front and rear tyres. I fitted an Avon AM to the front of my CB550/4 which is quite soft compared to others and for my riding style, it is absolutely perfect. A soft front tyre does and always has, suited my riding style. Tyres are all down to what the rider feels confident with, not make or price.
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I have a ribbed 18" Cheng Shin tyre fitted to the front of my CB400/4. Bloody brilliant. Lovely soft compound which is what I like and it sticks to the road like shit to a blanket. I ride the 400 hard and have 100% confidence in the front tyre, will defo buy another when time to replace. I should add I don't have one of these fitted to the rear, I would wear it out in 500 miles 😀😀😀
Julie do you shit on blankets often?😂, i have no experience of it or Cheng shin tyres🤣
Haha, no, I don't shit the blankets very often but as a Nurse, I have had to deal with plenty of it over the years 😀😀😀
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Here's a pic of Hetties Cheng Shin. I get to this bike over so far on bends, I have even scrubbed the pimples off the side walls 😀😀😀
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There has been a lot of reports of cracking and failing Avon Roadriders when they first came out >> https://advrider.com/f/threads/avon-roadrider-failing.824610/
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Anything to defend cheap nasty tyres? Come off it Trig that's one of the world's biggest tyre companies deaply involved in motor sport. Still don't buy Chinese rubbish whatever it is, most of it is landfill. That back tyre just squirmed around all over the place. Dangerous.
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One of the biggest tyre companies involved with advertising ;)
If the road surface is shite and the rider is shite, it doesn't matter what tyre you are using it will be shit ;D ;D ;D
I was at silverstone some years ago and i asked a team why they had gone for that type of tyre ? The reply was, we get them for free and no one else has offered us free tyres for this season.
A CST tyre will squirm all over the road on a 750 as, it is too soft for that weight on the rear.
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Wooo hit a raw nerve there have I Trig. Wasn't aware that the TT course was a rubbish surface and I have been riding since I was 16. Better tell Silvers to stop selling them for the 750. But your right they are not suitable for the bigger bikes at all, silly soft tread pattern and bendy side walls. This is exactly what I'm talking about, Cheng shin make tyres in that size for that application and they are crap. So why would you trust a company like that. All Chinese stuff is rubbish so why risk your life for a few quid when you don't have to. People constantly bang on about cheap foreign pattern parts are not going on my bike so why are these rubbish tyres getting fitted.
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You are fitting cheap Chinese parts to your bike though Roy. Many original parts in Honda bags are now made in China, Tiwan and the Philippines, it actually says it on the bags. But that is not the point. I would not fit Cheng Shin Tyres to a CB750/4 and I wouldn't advise anyone else to either.
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Going to leave it there. People can decide for themselves. We're heading for a never back down situation here.
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Agree, its like the 'which oil' debate. In the meantime I'm going to get 4 new tyres fitted to my Freelander....I wonder if Land Rover sell Cheng Shins, always worth an ask 😀😀😀😀😀
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Agree, its like the 'which oil' debate. In the meantime I'm going to get 4 new tyres fitted to my Freelander....I wonder if Land Rover sell Cheng Shins, always worth an ask 😀😀😀😀😀
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Going to leave it there. People can decide for themselves. We're heading for a never back down situation here.
…and that’s the difference between this forum and some others.
Moderation is easy as you mostly do it yourselves.
Steve
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Julie, best 4 x 4 tyres for mostly road with a bit of off road i found are Goodriche All Terrain A/T. Cost a bit more but on my L200 lasting about 40,000 a set when rotated.
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Yea, I always have good tyres on the car Bryan and have used Goodrich in the past many times. I have the standard Land Rover Goodyear tyres fitted to this car, always last very, very well by swapping them around. No difference between on road or off road around here, mud everywhere all the time what with the Farmers working the fields 24/7, 365 😊
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Well that was interesting. Its just that the 350f has come with what looks to be a virtually new or new pair of Cheng Shins on and I am a little loath to bin them. I will try them as its not difficult to change them if I don't get on with them.
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Good idea Moorey. I personally wouldn't want one on the back wheel but that's because I would wear it out too quickly. At least you had a balanced response to the question, 50% like them, 50% loathe them 😀😀😁😁
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Julie Don't bother with Bridgstone Teflons I had them on my Ford Ranger. They lasted well, 70'000 miles mostly road use when I wasn't falling off it. ::)
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Haha, cheng shin are one of the biggest tyre manufacturers in the world.... you can bet they know how to make tyres..... personally i like bridgestones (japanese company) or “jap crap” as all the british bikers used to say 40 years ago... ;D
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Going back a bit my gs125 came with bridgestones, probably original to the bike. Horrid, horrid tyres. My ntv650 came with Bridgestone battlax or whatever they are called - I hated those tyres too, especially after fitting maxxis tyres transformed the bikes handling. Some of the best tyres combos I have ever run on a bike have been budget. I'm not 100% sure but I think my kh125 had chen shin tyres when that was last on the road, before that it had Vee rubber tyres. It was one of the best handling bikes I ever had on either set of very budget tyres. My 500/4 I always ran on Avons because that's what it came with and it worked. Only criticism I would make is the rears do not last, unless you buy them, leave them in a dark cool shed for a few years before fitting, the difference is I could turn a sticky fresh Avon rear tyre into a bald one in about 2000 - 3000 miles but managed nearer 10k off a new old stock tyre. Sm mk2, they stick like the proverbial to a blanket, right to the bitter end. Once crossed the beacon beacons road in a blizzard with my BMW r80/7 ex plod bike, found on getting home the rear had gone from a bit thin on the tread - still legal, to canvas but still it ran like it was on rails. My mate used to mock the fact the tyres on that bike featured 'chicken bands' of an extreme scale though there was a good reason for it, the 500/4 had stabilisers ( sidecar ) and when the tread started to look thin, it went over to the BMW to get a bit of extra life out of the edges of the tyre. Thrashed among b roads that stretched tyre life a good old bit.
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Funny you should say that, Mrs Hairy had Maxxis tyres on her 650 shitehawk,, sorry, Nighthawk, they were really good in all weathers. Looked up the manufacturers website, and they are made by Cheng Shin tyre company!
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Cheng Shin and Maxxis used to be utterly crap years ago. Squirming when dry and sliding all over the place when wet. That was when BT57's were great and Metzeler ME33's and 99's ruled the bias belted world. Things have changed and they have moved on, Saab's and Fiats don't rust while you wait and engines don't throw a rod at 20k.
The problem is that we have long memories and don't forgive. Give them a go and make your own mind up.
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Its sutch a variable subject, same tyre on different vehicle can behave very differently. I think the tyres grip in the wet probably is the only factor that likely to stay constant. Pirrelli city deamon in my experience won't grip in frosty conditions for toffee. Worse still with the wider sizes on things like my old ca rebel 125. I wouldn't rule any brand out without trying one, on the bike first. Not a cheap exercise by any means, but I run part worn tyres a lot so do tend to try different brands a lot. Saves you a packet in the long run. On the ntv a maxxis tyre on the back was the best of about 6 I ran before getting laid off meant the bikes been laid up.
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Funny you should say that, Mrs Hairy had Maxxis tyres on her 650 shitehawk,, sorry, Nighthawk, they were really good in all weathers. Looked up the manufacturers website, and they are made by Cheng Shin tyre company!
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I love a Maxxis tyre as well. My real hate is Pirelli City Demons, hard as nuts, feels like you are riding over nuts as well. My 400 was totally unrideable with them on.( New ones had been fitted to the bike by the PO when I bought it).
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Maxxis = Cheng Shin, same company..
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Well I can vouch for maxxis as I had one on the rear of my ntv 650. Stuck like the proverbial to a blanket - like Nurse Julie I have deal with enough of that in my time, both as a care worker and a parent. They were not at all phased by riding like a nutter in rain or frost. Easily equal to or better than any other tyre I tried. Lated reasonably, though when I really gave it the beans and thrashed the bike you could tell by looking at the tyre that it had had a thrashing. Tread was visably down from a few short rides, but that was using the torque of that v twin and downshifting to step the arse end out on sharp bends then caning it through the box out the other end of the bend.
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I too had a GS125 with its origanal Brigdestones they were crap in the dry and deadly in the wet. I changed them to TT100's a far superior tyre. I have never liked Bridgestones I have tried them on countless cars and bikes they just don't like my riding style.
My go to tyre on the Guzzi is currently Michelin pilot 2ct un crashable in the dry crap in the wet but predictable. Only downside the rear only lasts 3000miles.
Pegaso has an Avon on the front and Dunlop to the rear totally predictable whatever the conditions. Conties for the Hondas look great plenty of feedback. Squirm a little when squared off.
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Actually When I say I like bridgestones, I mean the BT45’s on classic bikes.... not a big fan of Bridgestome battlax etc on bigger bikes.... i always preferred Dunlops on bigger bikes, seemed more stable to me, tipping in on battlax’s used to feel like falling off a chair..😄
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Falling of a chair about covers cornering with a battlax tyre on my ntv! Excellent description. The other horrid quality of that tyre was it felt like the bike had a hinge in the middle or shot swing arm bearings. Swapped the tyre over, bike felt totally refreshed.