Post by: Laverdaroo on December 29, 2022, 09:00:46 PM
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Post by: Bryanj on December 29, 2022, 09:30:58 PM
Post by: robvangulik on December 29, 2022, 09:38:35 PM
Post by: Tomb on December 30, 2022, 10:20:36 AM
I use to drive the plant students crazy when they came asking fo a 10mm bolt and thats exactly what i gave them, then told them to go away and sort out exactly what they wanted!
Hahahaha years ago when I was a skint Toolmaker I got a second job in a local backstreet garage, I had exactly the same problems with the mechanics, I asked for a 10mm bolt, they gave me an M6. Confused the hell out of them when trying to explain. 😂😂
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 30, 2022, 12:04:10 PM
I grew up using tools at the tail end of Whitworth,BSF & BSP being thrust ito the world of AF that was easy to understand - I could identify an AF thread by sight. One Christmas Wendy bought me a lovely Britool socket set in a Britool Redish steel case it must have cost her a fortune back in the 1980's it would be the last tool set I would ever, ever need it would never wear out or be abused (self delusion).
Then I started servicing my late Mothers Nissan Micras, we moved from Vauxhall & BL to used Mercs - IIRC only two of my lovely Britool sockets fitted anything metric. As I aged the fun of crawling under cars started to evaporate - I converted to using a Dealership or local garage.
I retired in what turned out to be a number of stages - main job retirement at 55 yrs - a gap year spent fishing & renovating ready for sale a modern terrace house that had been on the rental market for 15 years. (long story).
SWMBO then saw me decline from Pub Lunches once a week towards almost daily ones - I received the appropriate level of verbal warnings & threats so went back to working full time as a driver at local MB dealership.
I took the opportunity to go from full time to part time then casual work for Mercedes Dealership (MB) so took up some maintainace work at a local Hotel finally having two casual means of employment until I was 69. A combination of declining health & a serious house fire in Nov 2017 forced me to re-appraise my lifestyle.
I still needed to occupy my time with more than fishing - along came Covid & a Honda 400 in need of some TLC I've caught the restoration bug - there is no cure.
Sorry a bit of a ramble drifting off topic but it's too cold in my garage & it's raining & SWMBO is out for the day.
Post by: SumpMagnet on December 30, 2022, 01:58:23 PM
Thats really considerate. Saves the kid the effort of losing it.
I own several spare 10mm sockets, just so I can actually find one when I need it. Short, long reach, 1/4"...3/8"...1/2" .... and 3 10mm spanners. I am thinking of putting one on the wall in one of those 'in case of emergency...break glass' boxes, or getting one on a lanyard, so I can hang it rouns my neck.
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 30, 2022, 05:37:37 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 30, 2022, 05:51:51 PM
LOL ....removing the 10mm socket!
Thats really considerate. Saves the kid the effort of losing it.
I own several spare 10mm sockets, just so I can actually find one when I need it. Short, long reach, 1/4"...3/8"...1/2" .... and 3 10mm spanners. I am thinking of putting one on the wall in one of those 'in case of emergency...break glass' boxes, or getting one on a lanyard, so I can hang it rouns my neck.
Does anyone actually make a metric socket with thin enough walls to fit the Honda Big End nuts ?
Post by: Bryanj on December 30, 2022, 06:30:49 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 30, 2022, 07:18:46 PM
Yes 1/4 drill with upducers
I'm lost what is an upducer ?
I put a cheapish socket in my drill chuck then ground the edges cutting through the chrome finish with a hand held cutting disc - I have no lathe or the ability to operate one.
Post by: Oddjob on December 30, 2022, 07:31:48 PM
Post by: Bryanj on December 30, 2022, 07:38:52 PM
Post by: ST1100 on December 30, 2022, 07:52:48 PM
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Post by: ST1100 on December 30, 2022, 07:53:39 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 30, 2022, 07:53:49 PM
It was a cheap set now some 25 years plus old.
Post by: Bryanj on December 30, 2022, 07:56:59 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on December 30, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
Ah so you use a 1/4 drive 12mm socket then adapters to fit the Torque wrench. My 1/4 drive Teng socket set has no 12mm socket it goes from 11 to 13 IIRC not missing just not in the set!
It was a cheap set now some 25 years plus old.
Worthwhile investment Ted, and one of the best value, toughest little socket sets money can buy. Bahco SL25
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Only about 20 sheets guv on the Amazon etc.
Post by: K2-K6 on December 30, 2022, 08:19:31 PM
Absolutely ideal for working on small projects like these bikes. Has slight barrel on extension to give gently misaligned approach if needed, plus positive lock for socket on ratchet so they don't fall off when using. Just everything they should be really.
Whole case footprint is about the size of a £20 note too, there's no surplus there at all just tool goodness ;D
Post by: Moorey on December 30, 2022, 08:32:40 PM
Ah so you use a 1/4 drive 12mm socket then adapters to fit the Torque wrench. My 1/4 drive Teng socket set has no 12mm socket it goes from 11 to 13 IIRC not missing just not in the set!
It was a cheap set now some 25 years plus old.
Worthwhile investment Ted, and one of the best value, toughest little socket sets money can buy. Bahco SL25
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Only about 20 sheets guv on the Amazon etc.
Well worth the money I have had one for quite a while now and to be fair it's taken more than it's share of abuse.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 30, 2022, 08:42:27 PM
Thanks for the pointer.
Post by: K2-K6 on December 30, 2022, 10:15:40 PM
That is funny Laverdaroo, even worked on my teenager :) most of my missing tools I seem to find in his domain now.
Post by: ka-ja on December 31, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
Post by: Bryanj on December 31, 2022, 10:43:59 AM
Post by: K2-K6 on January 08, 2023, 10:12:52 AM
Using mine today, realising why it's so convenient. You can open the lid or unclip it completely and turn it upside down with nothing falling out at all. In comparison to others when all the little bits are scattered far and wide.
My son has a Halfords Advanced 40 pcs 1/4 drive set, tools are really good and with largest socket 14mm it covers more ground, but collecting all the bits if it's upended ::) a too often pain especially if you're working on a car engine bay with one of those undertray bolted to it ;D ;D how I know that may be obvious :-[ with it's accompanying "clinky" symphony as all the little pieces cascade down through the nooks and crannies, possibly better if using a tray tool box as you can leave it in there with lid off, which fell off anyway as it's fairly brittle plastic hinge broke easily.
Both sets have proper tool steel hex bits that aren't chromed, as they should be this way for good application, but will be affected by rust if left/stored damp.
Son supplimented this with Bahco 3/8 set, arrived with fault on ratchet that would jam but replaced immediately from supplier without question and not required to return first set.
Tagged along with son to a tool fair recently, looking at Bahco stand and chatting to rep, asked about the 3/8 set and he told me they'd produced a batch of faulty ratchet that had gone to distributor unknown and so they contained it by just replacing no question asked as it was very specific.
Bahco have been owned by snap-on since 1999 too, they seem intent on protecting brand value by offering assured quality and backup.
Their plain Allen keys are really good too with good tolerancing and nil wear in hard use. I had a long serving sykes pickavent set that's a very old but brilliant set (unfortunately lost one on RC car field operations support crew :) ) with these a match for those material wise.
All in, their tools are very good and generally good in value too.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 08, 2023, 11:05:52 AM
My first observation was - will it go rusty as it's not exactly a highly chromed finish. Not used it yet - the machining finish looks pretty good for the price.
My 3/8" set is also around 30 years old a Kamaza bought from Donnington market - I think the firm had gone ceased trading so it was cheap. Only failure has been the much abused ratchet that was replaced
Post by: K2-K6 on January 08, 2023, 12:21:06 PM
There were alot of those green boxes around markets some years ago I remember too Ted. Didn't realise until recently that they are Swedish and a contemporary manufacturer of Bahco. For years (pre internet) just thought they may have been a made up name.
Something unusual in application, but extremely helpful. I've some 1/2 drive Bahco impact sockets, six face (flat not flank drive) that are absolutely the best thing I've ever used to get brake line and brake bleed valves moving if they are stuck/corroded. Unusual in application as this is not necessarily the tool you'd reach for in this application, but they are very tight fit and tap-on if fitment is corroded, but absolutely the best sockets for preservation of existing hex drive to get them moving.
Those hard tube fitment into caliper that many cars and these old bikes use, if stuck and ultimately needing replacement meaning they can be cut to give access, are easily done with these sockets.
Post by: Bryanj on January 08, 2023, 12:23:54 PM
Kamasa were very good quality and i have a 3/8 set, had to replace ratchet after 12yrs of abuse.
Britool was always my favourite buy and i was told once that they made Halfords own brand but no idea if that was true
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 08, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
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Post by: ka-ja on January 09, 2023, 08:49:09 AM