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CB500/550 / Re: Tax and the 40 year old rule
« on: December 07, 2015, 10:58:38 PM »
My local post office changed the taxation class while I waited. They issued me with a receipt in lieu of my now free tax disc and sent the old V5C off to Swansea. I recieced the updated one a couple of weeks later. There were no problems or delays.

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CB500/550 / Re: Tax and the 40 year old rule
« on: December 06, 2015, 03:45:05 PM »
When the great day arrives you can get the taxation class changed at a post office.

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CB350/400 / Re: CB400F regulator/rectifier
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:46:24 PM »
I've just fitted the Electrex World combined unit to my CB350F and electrically it's a direct swap but you have to make up your own mounting system and it's a good bit bigger than the OEM rectifier.



I mounted it by sandwiching the original regulator bracket between a pair of stainless steel straps but if I ever get round to pulling the battery box out I'll make up a proper mounting.


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Misc / Open / Re: DS Pricing / pattern parts
« on: November 01, 2015, 09:05:01 AM »
On a related note Pyramid do a kit which has both the fork oil seals and the seemingly more elusive dust seals too.

I got mine from Amazon.

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CB350/400 / Re: Boyer Bransden ignition system first report.
« on: October 14, 2015, 09:48:48 PM »
That's one of the reasons I chose the BB system.

They've been around along time.

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CB350/400 / Boyer Bransden ignition system first report.
« on: October 14, 2015, 10:14:26 AM »
A couple of weeks ago, while I was sorting out an ignition problem, I also decided to change to a contactless electronic system. I chose to go with the Boyer Bransden unit, Kit 00089, which is listed for the CB400F and CB750F but, with advice from this forum, I assumed it would fit my 350F too. It cost around £130 with carriage.

Mounting the small electronic control box took most time but I finally fitted it under the frame below the seat nose using Ty-Wraps.





Fitting the rest of the kit was no problem. The whole points backplate is removed. The advance unit is taken off so that the springs and bobweights can be removed then it is refitted onto the crank. The Boyer Bransden unit has a built in electronic advance curve so the bobweights and springs are no longer needed.The circular circuit board replaces the original backplate and the magnetic rotor bolts onto the remains of the advance unit. The original wiring loom can be used but I made up a new loom as far as the connectors under the air filter box.





Like all aftermarket ignition systems the BB unit is designed to work with the stock coils. I checked these and found that they had a primary coil resistance of 4 ohms. I had suspected a coil fault so I was replacing them with new coils from DS Spares. Fortunately I also had the presence of mind to check the replacements which was just as well as they only had a 2.2 ohm primary resistance which would have drawn far too much current through the BB electronic box. After checking with BB I used a couple of 1.6 ohm ballast resistors, one in the power feed to each coil.






The initial set up, described in the instructions, gets the bike started then you can use a strobe to accurately set the timing using the full advance timing marks.

An interesting feature of the BB ignition is that, with two pick up coils replacing the contact breakers and TWO rotating magnets replacing a single cam lobe ALL four plugs fire together all the time

I contacted Boyer Bransden to find out the thinking behind this and they said

"There are a few reasons. Its more accurate, once its completed one revolution, the system will find a central point for sparking and that will never change. Because of this, it makes setting up much easier and can be done on any cylinder. It also burns un-burnt fuel ready for the next firing stroke which improves the running and emissions of the engine."

I have had the bike out a few times with this system fitted and it is a definite improvement over the old (and possibly a bit iffy) coils and contact breakers. It is smoother and more tractable at lower revs (probably due to the slower advance curve) and definitely pulls better at high revs too.


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CB500/550 / Re: Best battery for a Honda CB550K3?
« on: October 14, 2015, 09:35:38 AM »
Just a word of caution from my own experiences.

I have found that the very basic charging system on older bikes can damage the newer battery types such as Gel, AGM and Lithium.

My 1989 Moto Guzzi overcharged a Westco AGM battery to the extent that it distorted, lifted the lid and leaked all over the engine.

Any battery that needs a special charger is going to struggle with the charging system on a 30 - 40 year old bike.

If you have one of the newer solid state regulator/rectifier units you will probably be OK.

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CB350/400 / Re: Touch up paint
« on: October 07, 2015, 04:55:47 PM »
RS Paints are very good at supplying motorcycle colours.

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Yes but the BB system fires all the plugs all the time. Twice as often as the standard system.

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It's taken a week but I think I'm back to making forward progress.

I replaced the lost side panel logo with a new aftermarket one from David Silver. Unfortunately it is a stick-on like the one which fell off. Strangely, when I had a close look, the badge had been moulded with the original mounting pins in place then these had been cut off to allow the double sided sticky tape to be used.

I also replaced both coils with new aftermarket ones from DS Spares. These bolt straight on in place of the old ones and have extra long plug leads which you can cut down as required.

I also decided, while I was sorting the ignition, to change to a contactless electronic system. I decided to go with the Boyer Bransden unit. Kit 00089 is listed for the CB400F and CB750F but correctly I assumed it would fit my 350F too.

I managed to mount the electronic box under the frame below the seat nose.



The rotor attaches to the mechanical advance unit AFTER the bobweights and springs are removed and the circuit board replaces the points back plate.



The Boyer Bransden unit has a built in electronic advance curve so the mechanical unit is not needed.

Like all aftermarket ignition systems the BB unit is designed to work with the stock coils. These have a primary coil resistance of 4 ohms. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to check the resistance of the replacements which was just as well as they only had a 2.2 ohm primary resistance which would have drawn far too much current through the BB electronic box. After checking with BB I used a couple of 1.6 ohm ballast resistors, one in the power feed to each coil.



The initial set up gets the bike started then you can use a strobe to accurately set the timing at the full advance marks.

Thankfully it fired up a treat on all four cylinders and drove very well.

An interesting feature of the BB ignition is that, with two pick up coils replacing the contact breakers, and a single rotating magnet replacing the cam each pair of plugs would fire once per crank revolution BUT the BB unit has two rotating magnets so all the plugs fire together twice per engine revolution.

I wonder what that does for plug life?


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CB500/550 / Re: Fuel petcock repairable?
« on: September 28, 2015, 10:19:46 AM »
When I stripped my CB350F fuel tap the reserve tube came off in my hand.

It seemed to have a taper fit so I used high strength Loctite and pushed it back in gently with my vice.

So long as the petrol doesn't dissolve the Loctite I'll be fine.

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CB500/550 / Re: Feeler strips
« on: September 28, 2015, 10:16:30 AM »
I got these from RS Components.



There are five 0.002" feeler gauge strips about one foot long.

They cost £10.49 with free carriage.

You can get them in most thicknesses and at this price you can experiment by cutting or bending a few till you get the perfect shape.

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CB750 / Re: K7 Whats the Best Petrol ? Also Tips for Winter Storage ?
« on: September 26, 2015, 11:30:32 PM »
I add Frosts Ethomix to the fuel and run the bike long enough to make sure it gets through the whole system then I switch the fuel off and run it till it runs dry.

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CB350/400 / Re: Many steps forwards, a couple of steps back.
« on: September 26, 2015, 11:23:15 PM »
I've never had a 400. To be honest I was never keen on the styling.

Performance is limited as it's a heavy 350 and I'm a heavy bloke. It's more like riding a 250 really but the sound of the 4 pipes is brilliant. Especially on the overrun

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CB350/400 / Re: Many steps forwards, a couple of steps back.
« on: September 26, 2015, 11:09:36 AM »
Are they MIVV exhausts on it?

Honestly I don't know.

The bike came into the UK from America 2 or 3 years ago and I was told by the seller that they were period after market replacements.

They are OK and fit reasonably but the nearside inner front pipe fouls the side stand spring and none of the pipes have any provision for centre or side stand abutments. It sounds nice tough without being over loud.

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