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Title: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: SteveW on June 29, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
Anyone got one, need more bike storage.
Just wondered if you get condensation on the inside because the walls are so thin.
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverdaroo on June 29, 2023, 10:06:53 PM
Been there, done that and yes, like you don’t know! They get really wet.


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Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverdaroo on June 29, 2023, 10:09:33 PM
Build a plywood hut, possibly cheaper and at least you can insulate the inside as much as you feel required depending on where you are and know it’s good for the winter. A good floor is quite important too, not just concrete, a wood layer helps enormously.
Or just get another shed


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Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: SteveW on June 29, 2023, 10:10:53 PM
Thanks, thought as much.
Wooden shed it is.
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: MCTID on June 30, 2023, 04:10:31 PM
Check out Facebook Marketplace and E Bay for second hand sheds....there are always plenty for sale.....they just want them dismantling and shifting sharpish as they have building plans afoot. Of course you have to dismantle them and transport them but with a couple of mates, and a Saturday or Sunday, you can save a lot of dosh. You can always cut them into manageable sections for transport and speed of dismantling (a Corded or Cordless Circular Saw is just the job) and you can strengthen the whole assembly again when you install it later.

S/H Sectional Concrete Garages are cheap as chips because they are a swine to transport and/ or they have Asbestos Roofs.......but if you have suitable transport and they are near your location, they are worth considering. I have a 20' X 10' Sectional - it was here when I bought this house (it has an asbestos Roof but its in good condition) and its just the job for me.

My only foray into Steel Sheds was many years ago and doing it on my own was a nightmare in December....and when it was finally assembled my blo*dy, ef*ing Dog would never go in it ! My TA Landrover hardtop was a pain in the rain as it was like somebody drumming on the outside of the roof and on one Exercise in Germany we had a 'carpet' of flies made their home on the inside of the hardtop ! Once bit, twice shy !

Lastly....buy the biggest you can fit on your plot - as you'll fill it quickly and wish you had a bigger one (as the Actress said to the Bishop) !
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: clinto on July 02, 2023, 08:50:33 PM
I've an eight by six foot steel shed erected 20 years ago. Came with a warning sticker that if expecting more than eight foot of snow to add additional bracing!
After the first year of having awful condensation, bought a huge can of anti condesation paint and have had no issues since.
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 02, 2023, 08:59:47 PM
I've an eight by six foot steel shed erected 20 years ago. Came with a warning sticker that if expecting more than eight foot of snow to add additional bracing!
After the first year of having awful condensation, bought a huge can of anti condesation paint and have had no issues since.


I was t even aware there was such a thing as anti condensation paint??


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Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 02, 2023, 09:31:41 PM
Anti Condensation Paint contains a number of tiny hollow glass beads that reflect thermal energy away from the walls. By effectively repelling warm air back into the room, the paint prevents moisture from forming on the walls and causing damp issues and mould growth.

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Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 02, 2023, 11:53:07 PM
Nope never heard of it
Cheers Ted


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Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 03, 2023, 09:58:40 AM
Never heard of it either.  :o
Of course, if the air is dry then you won't get condensation  ;) . My previous shed I built was lined in rockwool/celatex and OSB and It was excellent. Now I use a dehumidifier (dessicant type as this works down to almost zero degC)
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Spitfire on July 03, 2023, 06:48:56 PM
Used some on my daughters bathroom (wet room) ceiling and walls, and it does work though it's horrible to apply.

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 03, 2023, 11:16:33 PM
Never heard of it either.  :o
Of course, if the air is dry then you won't get condensation  ;) . My previous shed I built was lined in rockwool/celatex and OSB and It was excellent. Now I use a dehumidifier (dessicant type as this works down to almost zero degC)

I did exactly the same to my garage Matt. It's a pre-cast Compton garage. I used 50mm celatex on the floor as well after making up joists using 50x50 pressure treated timber at 200mm centres with 18mm marine ply over the top and then 10mn interlocking tiles on top of the ply. It made a massive difference, no condensation or damp whatsoever. I used to run the dessicant type dehumidifier in the winter but that stopped last year when even on the lowest setting it was costing 12p/hour to run. I wrapped the bikes up in vac bags last winter and no issues at all (apart from getting the bikes into the bags!). I replaced the corrugated cement roof when it cracked. I replaced it with metal profile insulated sheets from a company called Steadmans. I wanted to build a block garage but the council refused me permission but allowed me to build a concrete pre-cast the same size saying it was classed as temporary, I erected it 27 years ago, hardly temporary!
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 04, 2023, 09:28:46 AM
Dave, how durable are the Vac-Bags? Always thought these would be good for longer term storage etc
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 04, 2023, 10:14:16 AM
Are Vac Bags expensive?
How do you create the Vacuum?
Are they re- useable?
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: paul G on July 04, 2023, 10:23:52 AM
Are Vac Bags expensive?
How do you create the Vacuum?
Are they re- useable?
Not too expensive and with a vacuum cleaner  ;)
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 04, 2023, 10:39:44 AM
Ted, they appear to be about £50....
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 04, 2023, 03:30:59 PM
Dave, how durable are the Vac-Bags? Always thought these would be good for longer term storage etc

They are pretty thick and heavy Matt and it would take a lot to rip one I would think. One of the four I used I bought about 15 years ago and its was still good to use again. A tip I learnt was to suck out as much air as possible using the hoover, use the re-usable zip tie supplied to close off the open end but then to use the large heavyweight plastic bag the whole thing came in and put this over the end of the vac bag and use a couple of zip ties to secure it. This then prevents any air creeping into the vac bag as I found out happens over a period of time. The large sack of dessicant is supposed to last for two winters use, I think its about £7 a bag to replace. You do need to clean the bike and drain the fuel and remove the battery prior to using the bag and inflate the tires to 10psi above their normal pressure.
The biggest downside is getting the bike in the bag, its pretty hard work and make sure you place a piece of wood under the feet of the centre stand in the bag to avoid damaging it. And of course once the bike is in the bag its a pain to get it out and put it back again if we have a nice day in the early spring! Still a lot cheaper than paying 12p/hour to run a dehumidifier 24/7 for four months though :o
Title: Re: Steel sheds / garages
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 04, 2023, 04:19:16 PM
Thanks - I have an old Triumph that I don't ride at the moment and don't want to part with, so a bag it is!
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