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Title: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: alexdecker on June 09, 2023, 05:11:53 PM
Hey all

Not sure what these are called in the manual, but the two large bolts clamping the front brake parts together - what are the torque specs for those?
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: deltarider on June 09, 2023, 05:32:26 PM
3,4 - 4 kg-m (24,6 - 28,9 lbs-ft) according to p.2 the official Shop Manual Honda CB500-550.
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: Bryanj on June 09, 2023, 08:47:11 PM
Never used one just BT
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: Laverdaroo on June 09, 2023, 09:06:40 PM
Or if from Yorkshire FT, and that’s not finger tight


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Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: deltarider on June 10, 2023, 09:14:44 AM
The official Shop Manual Honda CB500-550 is found in Aladdin's Cave in a good resolution.
There is one torque spec there that still puzzles me today.
It's about #22: the front wheel axle nut. Early 80s I did torque that nut @ the recommended 5,5 - 6,5 kg-m (39,5 - 47 lbs-ft), only to find out the wheel wouldn't turn anymore. I loosened the nut up again and all was fine.
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: Johnny4428 on June 10, 2023, 10:49:19 AM
The official Shop Manual Honda CB500-550 is found in Aladdin's Cave in a good resolution.
There is one torque spec there that still puzzles me today.
It's about #22: the front wheel axle nut. Early 80s I did torque that nut @ the recommended 5,5 - 6,5 kg-m (39,5 - 47 lbs-ft), only to find out the wheel wouldn't turn anymore. I loosened the nut up again and all was fine.

That doesn’t sound right, might be incorrect spacer between bearings? Worth checking out!
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on June 10, 2023, 11:55:27 AM
The official Shop Manual Honda CB500-550 is found in Aladdin's Cave in a good resolution.
There is one torque spec there that still puzzles me today.
It's about #22: the front wheel axle nut. Early 80s I did torque that nut @ the recommended 5,5 - 6,5 kg-m (39,5 - 47 lbs-ft), only to find out the wheel wouldn't turn anymore. I loosened the nut up again and all was fine.

That doesn’t sound right, might be incorrect spacer between bearings? Worth checking out!

If I'm reading the post right that was 40 years ago so a bit late in the day..
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: deltarider on June 10, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
I just discussed it with a friend who owns a collection CB Fours and restores them. He reasons in principle finger tight is enough as that nut can't go anywhere.
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: K2-K6 on June 10, 2023, 05:13:16 PM
The official Shop Manual Honda CB500-550 is found in Aladdin's Cave in a good resolution.
There is one torque spec there that still puzzles me today.
It's about #22: the front wheel axle nut. Early 80s I did torque that nut @ the recommended 5,5 - 6,5 kg-m (39,5 - 47 lbs-ft), only to find out the wheel wouldn't turn anymore. I loosened the nut up again and all was fine.

That doesn’t sound right, might be incorrect spacer between bearings? Worth checking out!

If I'm reading the post right that was 40 years ago so a bit late in the day..

Certainly there's no way a correctly assembled wheel spindle arrangement should tighten when that is done.

Agree it would point to something being wrong or out of place to do that.

Recognise that the date here may have impact, but believe same bike is still in use ?

More to the "engineering" point in detail though, that eventuality should absolutely not inform how the assembly is set for anyone, now or then. Clearly advice originating from that is false.
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: deltarider on June 10, 2023, 08:25:31 PM
Certainly there's no way a correctly assembled wheel spindle arrangement should tighten when that is done.

Agree it would point to something being wrong or out of place to do that.

Recognise that the date here may have impact, but believe same bike is still in use ?
Not only that, it's still the same wheel and as far as I know, bearings were never replaced, unless PO had it done in the three years and first 33.000km he has owned the bike. Why I torqued that nut? Probably to use my then new torque wrench. ;D I must have had my front wheel out at the occasion to replace brake pads or so. 
More to the "engineering" point in detail though, that eventuality should absolutely not inform how the assembly is set for anyone, now or then. Clearly advice originating from that is false.
K2-K6, I had thought my English was reasonable, but - not being a native speaker - I have no idea what you are saying. Could you please paraphrase your last two sentences?
Title: Re: Front brake bolts torque spec
Post by: K2-K6 on June 10, 2023, 10:39:27 PM
To clarify, if there was  problem with tightening the axle originally (wheel stopped rotation) then that is no a reason for changing  the torque setting away from manual/specification.

The original fault should be investigated and not an adaption made in how it's assembled.

A torque setting is always put there for a specific reason.
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