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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB500/550 => Topic started by: Woodside on April 24, 2016, 03:19:36 PM
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Finally dug out all my spares today...and the frame and engine of a 500 I've had for some time....
Hopefully in amongst all this I Have enough to to put it all back together....
Except for the pipes....
Just somthing to pass the time...
I know we all like pictures so here goes a few...
See anything missing that's gonna be a arse.
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Is that the engine bit top left corner first pic? Or just a 500cc wheelbarrow!
Looks like you've most of the pieces there and should keep you busy for a while.
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Mix of US and UK parts there, didn't see a rear mudguard, they can be difficult
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You have your work cut out , and yes you must be mad just like all of us lol
pete
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Yup, looks all there, should be MOTing it by Friday
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Hope you are good at jigsaw puzzles ;) Is it US or UK ?
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U.K.
Last on road 1977
Kind off backs up milage on clocks 6547
I have an original tax disc with a Del Boy note still in the back
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So far so good
All went together relatively easily...
And I seem to have most parts correct for a k0..
I'm sure you will tell me differently and I will welcome the comments...
I have the correct seat and cover for it but I couldn't resist the photo opportunity .
Fuse board air box are in behind the side panels.
..I'm really kicking myself I could've picked up a useable set of pipes but past them up the other day...very pi$$ed of about that....
The wheel barrow is indeed a 500 but currently seized solid
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Wiring can be a bugger, as it is all round pins (apart from the ignition block) Hard to find parts is the tank trim.
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Well good news is I just contacted the chap with the pipes I past up and he still has them....so I now have a set for the bike...They are reasonable and use able. ..but I don't think I have the 4 brackets for them I will have a good double check later but if anyone has an old set I have a home for them..
Hopefully lift the engine in later and if ipad is playing ball ill get some more pics
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Tax in post ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I remember the day, pre internet , mobile phone and mass immigration, oh to go back to the simple hippy days of the 70,s, when big brother was not watching, mind you the down side was people like jimmy saville could get away with things undetected , we were alot more gullible then
Anyway good luck with the build , its starting to take shape
pete
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I should've named this post "building a barn find"
I am starting to wish I had cleaned some parts abit before assembly as it is all abit grubby but all very well preserved.
But this is a build up just to see what I have and more importantly what I need..
Things I know I need..
Oil filter housing....can't believe I don't have one here ...
Genuine case screws
I found 2 exhaust brackets....I've searched everywhere I cannot see the other pair.
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A few more
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First foot brake I grabbed must have been on one of matts sidecar outfits....
Luckily I found another
This was in the box but I can't place it...any suggestions
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Never seen that bracket before, there is a small one near the coils but, that is not it.
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I think I have the one for the coils..
I cannot place this one..it was in one of my boxes and it's a similar gauge to the front engine mount brackets....
It looks like it would have somthing looped over it ....guess it's not required
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Will you selling it on or doing a full restoration job ?
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Don't know...
Think I may keep with the aged look for now...I seem to have most parts so far so I may just take everything back off and give it all a good deep clean and refresh to get it all working well so it's all functional
A full 100% restoration is not really what I would want..I kinda like the good useable condition...
Engine is seized solid so that needs a whole lotta love....was going to ask you about that
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I've got to sell something. now it's a whole bike again I'm stuffed for room
I did sell the other k0 and 400/4 and gained a bit of room but now I've filled it up again..perhaps I should take another one to bits
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Don't know...
Think I may keep with the aged look for now...I seem to have most parts so far so I may just take everything back off and give it all a good deep clean and refresh to get it all working well so it's all functional
A full 100% restoration is not really what I would want..I kinda like the good useable condition...
Engine is seized solid so that needs a whole lotta love....was going to ask you about that
Ask away ! Fully booked at the moment
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Pm sent
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Can't stop kicking myself again..after realising that I pretty much have a bike here and now the set of pipes are on there way ..I think I dropped a bollock not giving everything a real deep clean and buff before racing into putting it together...
Still I suppose I didn't know it was going to go so well
And it definately needs tearing down again either way...so Ho hum
Tonight I took a step back and gave what I can get to a soak in good old 4 star I got from a shed at work in an old esso tin....and a little rub with peek
I think it looks ten times better..
It's going to take a real good picture when its whole again..
The tank even got it too...
That's another thing anyone got a set of tank badges...
I'm happy if anyone has any of the spare bits I need to pay for them I'm not after gifts here....
Also as you can see condition isn't an issue
Looking at it now I'm tempted to have a oily rag but mechanically good bike
I did notice on the clocks the drives are wobbly I guess the deep storage under all the other parts they have taken a bash...is this terminal or salvageable
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First points cover I picked up was wrong
The one on the right is correct
Anyone know what the Lhs one is off of
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CB750!
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Yep same as my 750
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Hope it's a sandcast ....I can sell it to pay for the 500 refurb
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And then some ;D
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I have a set of very rare tank badges for that bike ;) Will have a look in me linbins.
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Cheers trigger
Was it you after a set of even rarer rear wheel adjusters ....I found 2 sets in my boxes of treasure. ..I seem to have multiples of odd parts...
but only 7 exhaust collets
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No, I was looking for the end caps that go in the swinging arm, Bill Benton sent me a shed load as a Xmas gift. Ash has some even rarer exhaust collets me thinks.
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These things are getting rarer the more I want em...
The quantities of my spares has no pattern I have 10 exhaust clamps too?
Cheers though.
A Couple of questions
Would a k0 have the plastic front disc shield at the rear of the Lhs fork leg on it or was that just on the later models
And should I have a cable retaining stay on the side of the horn?
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Tonight I popped the carbs on and found the best front brake parts I have....popped the piston out and dry fired the parts on
Pipes should be here any day...and I dropped the k0 seat base and cover into my dads old mate who is a trimmer to swap an old later foam into it...
So hopefully this time next week it may look like a bike again.
I have the loom and the correct switch gear I just haven't fitted them yet ....and may not for now..I don't think it will do it any favours being put on and off...
Engine finish looks surprisingly good
Sorry pictures are all similar but they are showing abit of progress ...
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Another shot I just can't get the full bike in from any other angle
Pipes fitted...well mocked up
I need LHS brackets.although it was touch and go...the ones I had must of been run over by a steam roller they both laid flat on the bench..I couldn't tell what side they were from...
Are they the same as opposite side or completely different ?
I reckon I could copy them but would struggle if they were much different.
I Just cut some ally bar to hold left side in place...
These pipes really make these bikes
Oh yeah anyone got a good RHS top pipe. SR
The one on this set has had a repair...I did know that and it doesn't bother me in the slightest as it seems right at the moment with the oily rag look but if that changes a better one would need to be sourced..
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No to plastic disc cover yes to cable clippy on horn bracket
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I fitted switches today Im pretty sure I have the correct ones fitted
I do have another pair but I think they are for the later models
LHS has horn stamped on it and RHS the switch order on lights is in a different order
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RH side switch is correct UK one and because of the way its laid out a lot of people fit the circular lights on/off switch on the L/H side so you don't plunge into darkness when going from main to dip.
The L/H switch is the superseded part from the just horn switch so for a useable bike is perfectly OK but if you want a show bike you need the early one
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It wouldn't be a 70's bike if you weren't plunged into darkness unexpectedly
The same goes for my guzzi it wouldn't be Italian if I didn't press the horn instead of the indicator switch causing rude hand gestures on more than one occasion ;D
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+ one with Bryan, mine had the same switches.
This is the cheapest I have ever found, I bought a second hand set from Germany and still had to tweet them to fit as they were out of shape >>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-KIT-STAFFE-MARMITTE-CB500-K0-K1-K2-/311587714904?
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So is the LHS the correct one ....
This is the other one I have here
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That is the same as you have fitted, it just has the button missing ;)
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The one fitted doesn't have horn embossed on it
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I see now ;) If you push the button on the switch on the bike does it go in ? The original would of had just a round button for the horn and no PA. As Bryan said, it was superseded .
The original would of looked like this >>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-Honda-CB500-Four-K2-LHS-Left-Side-Switch-Gear-Winker-/252358935924?hash=item3ac1c3c574:g:ligAAOSw~oFXE8v7
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Yup it's a horn/pass button pushes in and slides right...
So I now need the same switch but just a round horn button.......I bet there easy to find
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The one you have will work ;)
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Yeah that's good enough for now..I will look for correct one
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This must be a correct one...not mine just a picture
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Woodsy go for it, I started with this
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2 1/2 years later and $4,000, ended up with this
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MickB, that is about what the average condition of the bikes I genrally buy start at, but I never take them further than hammerite paint job and an mot before riding them for a few years til they need doing up again. Must take a fair bit of dedication ( and outlay) to get one looking that good from that start point.
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That looks very tidy and a great colour too..
Don't think mine will look like that any time soon...
I think I may get the engine sorted ....I have a few options on this and I've yet to decide which route to take..
Get it running and mechanically sound..and back on the road..
Then I may see if I can get a load of good stuff to put on it at some point...the parts I have are in pretty good shape after all it's been stored in parts since 1979 so I'm sure a lot of these can be brought back to a fair standard.
That's the plan anyway...
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Excellent job you've made of that. Well done.
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That looks very tidy and a great colour too..
Don't think mine will look like that any time soon...
I think I may get the engine sorted ....I have a few options on this and I've yet to decide which route to take..
Get it running and mechanically sound..and back on the road..
Then I may see if I can get a load of good stuff to put on it at some point...the parts I have are in pretty good shape after all it's been stored in parts since 1979 so I'm sure a lot of these can be brought back to a fair standard.
That's the plan anyway...
You could always go down the route of painting the frame and getting the engine done. Then everything else is just bolt off and on parts.
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Yup that's kind off the plan.
When I strip it back down frames gonna get some tlc forks rebuilt and obviously engine and carbs.
everything is going to get a good deep clean and refresh and hopefully reuse what I can.
I will look for a good used tank in the black and just keep on looking for any thing that is better than I have .
Keep the cost down and spread it out too
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Do a little each time you can and it'll get done.
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Just looking at v5 last night and realised this bike was registered 15/03/1972
My sons birthday is 15/03/2007
I know not quite the same being 35 years apart but a nice coincidence
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My son Chris was born on 15/03/1987.
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Is it really a coincidence that Mothers day is 9 months after Fathers day?
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Hmmm I was brn on 21st march '81, eeew. Thanks for that line of thought, still I have a similar age 500/4 , might find it shares my birthday although a decade older than me. I had a Suzuki FZ50 with the same date first registered as my birthday.
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I must admit I always look at 1973 bikes and do always double check the first reg to see if it's my birthday....Wouldn't make me buy it though....
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Who said I was mad..
Ok seat back today...and couldn't resist popping it on...
I think I am now at the point where now the only way forward is backwards and take it all to bits again and store everything ready for sorting out....
Here are the pics of where I am up to no cables are attached a few are run but they can be done properly later....
So now chaps any comments what can you see that is incorrect for the model and what am I going to need ...other than a shed load of cash...
I did spice a rather nasty correct (I think)LHS switch unit
Seat hardware are winging there way to me as we speak...cheers ash....
Here goes fill yer boots
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Ditto
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Few more
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Ta daaa
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Very nice!!!!!!
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Looks great Jason, well done..... You're way ahead of Graham with his latest UK 500 K0 ressurection job, he's got all the bits now though 😊😊😊😊
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Started 2016?
And had it at least 2 years before that .wasn't rushing ?
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Started 2016?
And had it at least 2 years before that .wasn't rushing ?
You can't rush a good thing Jason 🤣🤣🤣
It does look lovely in black, I'm not sure what colour Graham is going for on his latest one, he's done the Gold, so I think his will be black this time.
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That looks gorgeous, reminds me of a friends bike back in the 1970's, being a big Hailwood fan the idea of a 500 four was almost irresistible for me but in the end I bought a 750.
Cheers
Dennis
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Looks great that. Hopefully you’ll be able to get some miles on it soon.
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A black beauty 8) Great looking bike from a box of bits ;)
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Looks great that. Hopefully you’ll be able to get some miles on it soon.
Not sure if I'll use it...may sell whilst its all new ...its dripping in nos stuff...
I have another which is abit more my style ....old and looks it so not quite so precious
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1000+ posts and i still can't paste a quote correctly
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Looks fantastic - mine was black in 1972 so brings back great memories! Hope the one I have turns out as good.