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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 11, 2024, 02:15:21 PM »
My initial main clearance for the crankshaft measurements is below. Its the result of 32 - the measurement.

stator end on the left

0.01124mm  0.01632mm   0.01378mm  0.01378mm   0.01378mm

Crankcase codes are B A A A A

If im reading the chart correctly I would need 1 green 4 brown. Does that sound correct?

Rechecked it and it should be 1 BROWN and 4 GREEN. I dont think i could do all 5 brown, it would be too little clearance for the A marked ones.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 07, 2024, 01:05:20 PM »
Ahh ok got it now. I didnt realise the graph was in millimeters.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 07, 2024, 12:23:03 PM »
Where is 45 coming from?

I understand the + and - I just can't figure out + and - from what figure.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 07, 2024, 08:05:18 AM »
Im assuming its the 35 and 32 on the graph. What measurement is that?

I've never really used thousandths of an inch before.

https://imgur.com/a/RvqynPu

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 06, 2024, 09:39:19 PM »
What is the base measurement for the mains and connecting rod sizes?

The haynes manual says +x number but plus from what base measurement?

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 06, 2024, 04:11:54 PM »
Back again. So the new crankshaft arrived and it does look a lot better than the old one.

https://imgur.com/a/IFNfRnb pictures of the codes on the webs

It looks like the codes are 1 1A 1A 1A 1A the crankcase codes are BAAAA.

From looking at my haynes manual I get yellow bearings.

Is that right or wrong?

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 02, 2024, 08:37:34 PM »
My plan is when the new crankshaft arrives, figure out the shells needed from the codes and order 1 set, then try that set with plastigauge and see what it shows. I'll then probably ask for some advice here.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 02, 2024, 10:29:49 AM »
Yeah, I've got the Haynes manual and I've also been using the shop manual pfd. I'll try the petrol trick with the new crank. When it arrives. But good to know its hopefully just a case of getting all the codes and working it out.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 02, 2024, 09:59:50 AM »
Ive tried to figure it out and looked through other posts. But how do you work out the shells needed from the crankcase codes?

Would these be the ones to use for the new crankshaft?

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 10:51:41 PM »
Both those look same to me and would save you spending roughly £80 on big end shells.
Plastigauge is accurat when used correctly but you need a main bearing pin size to start from.
What are the letter codes from the rear of your crankcases?

The crankcase code is BAAAA.

I'm near Preston.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 10:14:25 PM »
If 400four bits has one he is a member on here as as far as i know fully trustworthy.
Personaly i would buy crank and rods as chances are the big ends would be ok and you would only need to buy mains.
No offence meant but if you are ordering a micrometer to measure the mains you wont be accurate enough, the correct use of mics is an art and the accuracy required is not easy to learn, you would be better taking it to a good engineering firm for accuracy

just thought I'd give it a go with a micrometer and plastigauge. If crank and rods are the way to go I'll do that.

What would you go for out of these two: option 1 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312044879538?itmmeta=01HQXPVR92HVDMQ5AS8Q6HNVN8&hash=item48a752feb2:g:ZS4AAOSwi0lg3u8q

option 2 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313344578679?itmmeta=01HQXPVR92FYBSGWTXTKKDEPWH&hash=item48f4cad477:g:13QAAOSw5FRgbExl

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 06:55:23 PM »
So after doing some googling and watching videos on how to measure the crankshaft, I've ordered a micrometer. So I'll try to measure and work out the sizings for the shells, buy 1 set, measure with plastigauge then order a full set of shells or 1 set of the next size up and plastigauge again.

Could I get some opinions on the crankshafts I have linked?

400fourbits also has one for sale. https://400fourbits.co.uk/

After Teds recommendation could someone take a look at these 2 options https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312044879538?itmmeta=01HQXPVR92HVDMQ5AS8Q6HNVN8&hash=item48a752feb2:g:ZS4AAOSwi0lg3u8q and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313344578679?itmmeta=01HQXPVR92FYBSGWTXTKKDEPWH&hash=item48f4cad477:g:13QAAOSw5FRgbExl

Or if any of the other ones I've linked seem good let me know.

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 06:49:41 PM »
I bought a crank & con rods from DK for my 500 - they were as described - the con rods shell were like new. 👍👍👍

Whats DK?

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 03:35:06 PM »
I'll give a good clean tonight or tomorrow and get rid of all the oil and grime. Its my first time doing a rebuild but it doesnt seem too far from these replacement crankshafts.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/375274886316?itmmeta=01HQXA10VEERSW3BT3Y66F6C4R&hash=item57602054ac:g:o84AAOSwrFdkoB9r&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8AKr4Ep4hVTll7AIMNUs5vK1xxCRmHXus9Yx3rmrZk5CIOoba1BWmYU%2FbUVe1KdN98AJY%2FkMjnFxa4%2BdqVhws3HE4MtLbs9V8HRSd1DBc4xQdrTuTPdEMyfIGCqpem4Ds0SuJSn9wEI3TOLUcjNqXsIgJD8xoDjJuB%2F1z0oQlqZ0nBxUw3DG80g2mJVXP6Yz1e%2FJMq4SfdaGKe44zB25wJ0lInFKlFqbST%2BezZBZxKtg8zQmNhWjpKXhwXfo%2F3MsxG3nZPJS6pYoDx%2BuD0zaGetIgO5%2FWzu%2FXd3jveFJ9Ln%2Bxr2QtlKyMwtg5IuhrLtreQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-SNhKq_Yw

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204673292768?itmmeta=01HQXA10VE5YNYFQNRPQ4YSX8C&hash=item2fa77a99e0:g:RDQAAOSwBfRlw7JN&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0FqCbxO1e6qmujg7mrLyab2Or9HCuS6dvjx2KgdPQ4xMOPVdPoASoOyTuGxMEuVuQWU0FH6Ge1Ub3nnnWlNm2N5kvx5CA1gahlQsh8hn2XkNLrxAlit7b8Y2cTTbqduHvrRm0BG7Cqm711Mi25pk4te2yAUf0Cxm%2B%2FzRI3C3scZxVe8xqp0tqnFKPQTdmKGZIX4PjOHt%2BzLFVLSpkGnBYeF%2B9nLEKQl6FBSi9gY%2FwfeyrW9N7a48QPzZ9r2RmdngbxZDtO4J91vXKCB2pbbugRU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-SNhKq_Yw

Update, Julie has just updated me regarding my rebore. Looks like there was silicone mastic blocking some oil passages. Regarding a replacement crankshaft, they dont seem too bad price wise.

Would it be more hassle trying to get new bearings to fit a new crankshaft and my current con rods? Or would it be easier to fit new bearing to a crankshaft that comes with the con rods?

There are 2 on ebay. Option 1 https://tinyurl.com/mrxffku7 Option 2 https://tinyurl.com/mu7fny3e

Without con rods. Option 1 https://tinyurl.com/3fcbp249 option 2 https://tinyurl.com/y6un5ha9
 

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CB350/400 / Re: Engine rebuild Parts list
« on: March 01, 2024, 02:31:17 PM »

Before you go and spend a shed load of cash on new shells get yourself some green plastigauge for £10 and measure the shells you have. Take some photos and post them here and do the same for the mains. The experts on here will be able to advise if the shells are scrap or useable (and assuming they are within tolerance after measuring with the plastigauge).
As has been said previously, please make sure you have made a note of where each individual half shall has come from and if it came from the top or bottom crankcase half. Post some photos of the journals as well.
One item not mentioned for your parts list is a tube of Hondabond. You will need this when assembling the crankcase halves. It's not cheap and don't be tempted to use instant gasket, you'll regret it when it blocks up the oilways and wrecks a newly rebuilt engine!
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Ive ordered some plastigauge green, should be here next week.

My nail doesnt catch on any of the crank case bearings but does slightly catch on the con rod bearings. I went to the engineering firm at lunch today, who fixed my tensioner for his opinion, he's been doing engine work for 40 years and has been recommended by a local restorer who uses him who has done work on previous cb400fs he was restoring. He said they dont seem too bad and would just replace them like for like. I'm going to wait until I can test it with the plastigauge before I pull the trigger on anything.

Upper crank case




Lower crank case



Con rod example



Another con rod




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