Post by: royhall on March 24, 2023, 09:53:30 AM
I spent last Friday getting part exchange valuations and it appears to be worth £3500 to the dealers. I tried the online buyers and BikeTrader.co.uk sent a valuation of £4000 so I went ahead with that but setting my realistic acceptance point at £3800. After the 45 minute inspection where they tried every trick going to get the price down (not going to work here as I know a thing or two about bikes) we settled on £3850 which I'm happy with as the bike had some issues.
So it was a teary goodbye to an old friend, hope someone new looks after it gets some use from it.
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As the 2023 reg is out the dealers are full of part exchanges so it's a good time to look. Next Friday the new lady arrives and I do apologise as it's not a Honda. It was a close run thing between a Honda CB650R and a Triumph Trident 660 where the winner was the Triumph. I managed to get the asking price down a bit as I had no trade in so I more than got back what I lost on the 1300. I somehow doubt I will have this one for 16 years as that would make me 81 but here's hoping. Hope you like the video https://youtu.be/rMHR7g8Nk6M (https://youtu.be/rMHR7g8Nk6M)
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Post by: K2-K6 on March 24, 2023, 10:42:29 AM
Interesting to hear what you make of the Triumph, I love a triple engine though. Not seemingly much different to a four, but whole world of contrasting character.
Hope you enjoy the new one.
Post by: taysidedragon on March 24, 2023, 11:16:58 AM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 24, 2023, 11:56:51 AM
Same bike (more or less)
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 24, 2023, 12:29:45 PM
Post by: Sesman on March 24, 2023, 01:32:23 PM
Those 660 motors are generations away for the 1050 motors and are an absolute gem.
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 24, 2023, 02:09:30 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 24, 2023, 02:51:10 PM
Enjoy yerself and congratulations on the new steed, great choice
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Post by: Oddjob on March 24, 2023, 03:52:22 PM
I bought my 1300 brand new in 2009, mines the naked version and in white/red, lovely bike, great engine and incredibly nimble considering it's weight. I'll be keeping mine for a few more years yet so I expect to break your 16 year record in a few years, TBH the weight is only an issue when you're pushing the bike, getting it up on the main stand is a one foot and one arm affair, very easy I find.
Post by: Lobo on March 26, 2023, 09:51:44 AM
(The missus is esp happy as the transaction means the next bike is genuinely a freebie…)
Within 24 hrs have ordered the last 2022 scheme Street Twin (900cc) I could find here in Oz; to be shipped down from Darwin. Quite excited tbh, figured I’d be sticking with familiar Japanese - but have been swayed. Fingers crossed.
Post by: Harold 400/4 on March 26, 2023, 02:41:11 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 26, 2023, 04:07:30 PM
Post by: royhall on March 26, 2023, 05:00:06 PM
Any idea who bought the bike Roy? I could tell the person looking for the full Akra and maybe they'd be interested in an exhaust swap, if it's a dealer they tend to prefer standard exhausts when selling the bike for some reason.Thanks for all the positive comments, interesting how many people own a modern Triumph.
Ken. It was sold to BikeTrader.co.uk. I couldn't change the exhaust as I previously sold the brand new original for ridiculous amounts of money, the Acky went on the day after I bought the bike in 2007. So cant really say I am out of pocket. Probably should have taken off the Genuine Honda rack though. Never mind, I did okay on the deal overall.
Post by: andy120t on March 26, 2023, 05:38:34 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 27, 2023, 02:05:37 AM
For sale at £5191 at Superbike Factory which if I remember right is in Macclesfield.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202303225517374?advertising-location=at_bikes&include-delivery-option=on&make=Honda&model=CB1300&page=1&postcode=SK5%208AT&fromsra
Body type = Naked??? it's the Sa version so it's faired.
Post by: royhall on March 27, 2023, 07:58:31 AM
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Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 27, 2023, 09:54:44 AM
1500 SE GoldWing and BMW R100RT off to pastures new. Had the Wing 20 years but only a year for the '2 wheeled grey Fergie'. I got good money for both - Wing to a Dealer who stuck a big chunk on of course - BM was private via Car and Classic site. It's easy to forget that the dealer has to stand a warranty and pay tax on any profit made and possibly have it some time, maybe even have to drop a bit too. Then there's the premises and free coffee etc. Ali Baba and the 40 motorcycle dealers! Just saying......
Ian
Post by: flatfour on March 27, 2023, 04:50:51 PM
I was issued an offer over the 'phone and they collected it at the stated time and transferred the offer price to my bank whilst their driver was looking the bike over in my garage. They put it up for sale next day, and sold it immediately at, I think £1000 more than I was paid. I thought that this was fair (the bike was showroom fresh, with some 14,000 miles on it and I was the only owner) because they collected it and, as pointed out needed to put a warranty on the bike etc.
The offer price was MUCH better than the competition and fitted the dealership estimate of its worth as a straight sale, so I was pleased and would certainly be happy to use them again.
Post by: Oddjob on March 27, 2023, 05:02:10 PM
Post by: royhall on April 11, 2023, 07:27:12 AM
It started out fairly poorly, the low revs throttle response is a dangerous joke. Wind the throttle to about 20% and you get about 5% which rules out nipping out of a T junction when a small gap arrives. Very unnerving.
Now the engine dies on approach to junctions usually when changing down and pulling in the clutch. Turns out this is a widespread issue with the Trident and 660 Tiger but as usual because Triumph wont admit to it your passed from pillar to post. The problem is oil getting into the airbox that then finds it's way via a small tube and restrictor to foul the air pressure MAP sensor. The ECU then gets bad data and shuts down the engine. Fortunately I have a 3 month dealer warranty so that is their problem. Unfortunately changing these parts is only dealing with the symptom and not the cause (oil in the airbox) so what's to stop it happening again.
The bike is generally built down to a price (in Thailand, O' Dear God). For instance, there isn't even a helmet lock. I have dealt with that by buying a bracket from USA that bolts on. There is already a bracket there that just required a hook on the top of it, would have cost Triumph nothing to do, very poor. The seat is probably it's worst feature, its very slippery if wearing textile bike pants plus it's very narrow with hardly any padding. It's the worst seat on any bike I have ever owned. Then on top, everything you expect from a modern bike is an extra that has a silly price tag with it.
I have owned this bike now for 10 days and am already starting to think about part exchanging it for a new Honda CB650R. My fault I should have stuck with Honda in the first place. Triumph certainly know how to get rid of their new customers. It's a real shame because if the issues were fixed it would be a really nice bike, the engine is an absolute peach. It handles lovely and is so light it is really easy to move around, and it's faster than I need at 64. Will see what happens after the warranty repair as the throttle issues may be part of the cutting out problem. And the other issue's such as the seat can be dealt with.
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on April 11, 2023, 10:55:02 AM
Thought I would just update you on the Triumph Trident 660 as I have now done a bit of mileage.Honda CB650R.
It started out fairly poorly, the low revs throttle response is a dangerous joke. Wind the throttle to about 20% and you get about 5% which rules out nipping out of a T junction when a small gap arrives. Very unnerving.
Now the engine dies on approach to junctions usually when changing down and pulling in the clutch. Turns out this is a widespread issue with the Trident and 660 Tiger but as usual because Triumph wont admit to it your passed from pillar to post. The problem is oil getting into the airbox that then finds it's way via a small tube and restrictor to foul the air pressure MAP sensor. The ECU then gets bad data and shuts down the engine. Fortunately I have a 3 month dealer warranty so that is their problem. Unfortunately changing these parts is only dealing with the symptom and not the cause (oil in the airbox) so what's to stop it happening again.
The bike is generally built down to a price (in Thailand, O' Dear God). For instance, there isn't even a helmet lock. I have dealt with that by buying a bracket from USA that bolts on. There is already a bracket there that just required a hook on the top of it, would have cost Triumph nothing to do, very poor. The seat is probably it's worst feature, its very slippery if wearing textile bike pants plus it's very narrow with hardly any padding. It's the worst seat on any bike I have ever owned. Then on top, everything you expect from a modern bike is an extra that has a silly price tag with it.
I have owned this bike now for 10 days and am already starting to think about part exchanging it for a new Honda CB650R. My fault I should have stuck with Honda in the first place. Triumph certainly know how to get rid of their new customers. It's a real shame because if the issues were fixed it would be a really nice bike, the engine is an absolute peach. It handles lovely and is so light it is really easy to move around, and it's faster than I need at 64. Will see what happens after the warranty repair as the throttle issues may be part of the cutting out problem. And the other issue's such as the seat can be dealt with.
Made in Thailand (oh dear)…
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Post by: Laverdaroo on April 11, 2023, 10:55:44 AM
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 11, 2023, 11:37:29 AM
Triumph not admitting to design issues and issuing recalls to fix them is very poor and is without doubt harming the reputation of the company. I know Stuart also had big issues with Triumph customer care not returning phone calls and emails etc. The press and video channels all big up Triumph but none of them mention the issues owners suffer.
I bought a new Triumph ST1050 in 2007 trading in my immaculate 20k 1998 VFR800 and within a couple of months I had that ‘What have I done feeling’ when the fasteners and brake discs began to rust and the fuel mapping had a big hole at mid revs. It was virtually impossible to remove the seat as the two holding bolts were under the overhang of the seat cover virtually ripping the cover to get to them was the result. I removed the fairing to give it a good clean, it took hours to get it back on, the panels had warped due to engine heat. I sold the bike 4 years later at a big loss and am now back on a 1999 VFR as my main bike and it still looks as good as the day it left the showroom.
Post by: taysidedragon on April 11, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
I bought my Street TripleR from TwoWheelsTriumph in Edinburgh and had really good service from them over 12 years. A mate of mine has a Tiger 1050 and has had lots of trouble with brakes and suspension. He does ride it very hard though.
Post by: Multiman on April 11, 2023, 05:42:40 PM