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« on: August 16, 2023, 05:31:26 PM »
It will be interesting to see how things will go - with trying to send a carb to the Netherlands to have is refurbished.
With being outside the EU and all that is...
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« on: July 21, 2023, 08:37:15 PM »
Looks like this set will fit the 500 four.
The bracket is too long.
Contact Delcevic with the problem.
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« on: June 03, 2023, 01:08:39 AM »
Sorry I didn't state more clearly what I ment.
What I ment to say was that with some bikes the basecoat was white and with some other basecoats were orange.
I simply wanted to say that for the final result (light ruby red) the base coat was not very important - as long as it was in the colour spectrum of the reds.
Now at no point I would say that the paint on the cb350 k3 is not original.
In my opinion it is - I am 100% agreeing on that.
It is interesting to see that after a problem the red layer the tank was returned to the beginning of the paint process and started with white again.
The reason this could have happened with this red tank this much is probably a starting painter with not much experience, or maybe a bad monday paintjob.
Another reason is that red - also pain red - is not easy to get correct in one thin layer. Probably the painter overshot causing a runner in the paint.
The thin layer would not give much room for repair, so after the runner was sanded out white would almost certain be showing again.
Easiest way to repair that was to simply start over.
Repainting a couple of times doesn't suggest this is a candy paint though.
A 70's plain red was not covering at all, that is why a base of white or orange was needed.
But even today it is quite common to use these colours as a base for red paint.
Now on the documentation - for some reasons getting colours correct in mechanical books or part books wasn't really important. Sometimes they were so insignificant to the writers of these textbooks they (or he or she) didn't even know the names of the paint.
I had a rather strange conversation on the French forum on which colours were delivered to France.
The French manual only stated the following colours for the 750: red, blue and yellow. Antares red was marron.
And thats it. Candyu blue green? - Bleu. Planet blue? - Bleu. Candy saphire blue? - Bleu.
In the Netherlands the pc50 was only available in blue and red. Everyone - and I mean everyone had a green one.
In the outtake of the manual above it is mentioned that all candys (except candy garnet brown) have a silver base coat.
Which would be very difficult for candy jade green and candy antares red for instance.
I only wanted to say that if the first point is not correct could we than imagine the third point also not to be correct?
Interestingly enough I have not seen Honda using pearl at all in the late 60-s and the 70's. I could be mistaken.
Unlike Yamaha and Kawasaki who used pearl abundantly in many paints.
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« on: June 02, 2023, 11:18:10 AM »
Honda did not only use white as a base for light ruby red.
Honda also used orange as a base. Since it is much closer to red.
Candy ruby red over orange woild make a much darker colour.
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« on: June 01, 2023, 10:33:00 PM »
I would like to add a comment on the paint story.
Using a candy only works if the base coat is reflecting.
By reflecting I mean a metallic layer or a flake.
Painting a candy over a plain colour takes away the typical candy effect.
Without this effect you might as well simply use a plain colour. It is easier to paint and the effect is completely the same.
That is why a plain red like light ruby red is a plain colour and no candy. There is no benefit at all - it only makes working with the colour more difficult.
For instance; the first Kawasaki z900 with the iconic paint in green yellow or brown orange is in base a black and white tank painted over with candy yellow or orange. However the plain black and white did not reflect anything at all so the painters found that they had to add metallic and pearl to get this effect which is quite difficult to paint. Without the metallic and pearl added in the candy the painters could simply have used plain yellow and a green metallic (or orange and brown metallic)
Point is: yes you can use candy ruby red over white - but it is actually useless for the candy effect. Therefore a plain red is easier and cheaper.
But don't let me stop anyone who would try it his or her on way.
Doing stuff your own way is modern and has huge benefits someone told me.
(And guys - girls I hope you all haven't lost your sense of humor jet).
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« on: February 22, 2023, 11:33:39 PM »
So... I have a question, just to get some information:
Is it so difficult nowadays to import something from the continent?
For example; if I were to sell this set for a 1000 British Pounds how much extra cost would be added to get it into the UK?
All I know that it used to cost 22 euro to ship a tank and side covers back to the UK.
Since the UK is not in the EU anymore but a 3rd party it costs now 38 euro and I need to fill out a form with content and value of the shipment.
Anyone have any insight on that?
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« on: February 21, 2023, 08:56:51 PM »
I have a set like that for sale if anyone needs one...
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« on: December 11, 2022, 08:08:15 PM »
Get your decals from Diego... I do.
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« on: December 10, 2022, 12:03:47 AM »
Planet blue metallic is a straight metallic.
No candy.
So put on a ground coat - for instance grey.
Than simply spraypaint the planet blue metallic.
You can also use a spray can - aerosol for this.
Apply decal and clear.
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« on: November 13, 2022, 01:08:35 AM »
Are these sets a pair of the set of 4 I painted for you?
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« on: September 23, 2022, 09:37:07 AM »
As someone who works with paints on a daily basis I can say that all providers of these 70's lookalike paints have their 'problems'.
In Germany there is RH. It is a company with a very large product range.
Their base colours are ok. No problem whatsoever with that.
Their candys though are very watery. Very difficult to paint with - especially when you work with them the first time.
So if someone would want to work with their candy paint I would recommend to take some distance and do very thin layers to prevent paint running. I have no experience with their service - cannot say anything about that.
In the Uk there is RS. They also have a large product range.
My experience is that their paint is not very consistent. My advise is when using to paint a probe to see how the paint reacts.
I have no experience with their service either - cannot say anything about that
Now from my point of view I don't like to work with either ones product. I mix my own candies which has a lot of advantages for me.
My remark on the quality of the paints from RS is in comparisment with other paints available. If RS were my only choice, I would work with that.
In the end I am trying to have a bit of fun and creativity in what I do. Most surely I could also do this with RS paint.
But imagine I had to buy every colour for a project like this:...
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« on: September 23, 2022, 08:52:54 AM »
My finished tank and panels in CRR.
What does CRR mean?
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« on: September 22, 2022, 09:34:36 PM »
Hi, the colour is candy presto red.
I cannot recommend a reliable painter in the UK because I don't know amy painters in the UK.
I can imagine not many painters want to do one sidecover in the first place; lots of work and quite difficult.
RS paint is known on the continent as a rather poor quality paint provider.
If I need to use RS paint I always paint a sample and copy that sample with the paints I use (mostly Sikkens).
How much paint you use depends on the painter. I had a Harley Davidson dealer call me because their painter used 2 Cans of RH paint (German) to paint a tank and 2 covers. I do 2 sets with 1 Can (375ml).
For 2 sidecovers I probably would need 30 grams of metallic and about 60 grams of candy. Maybe 2 layers so 2 paintthroughs 2nd one maybe 40 gram. I don't know how much stone that is.
If you want to paint a F1 in orange (Flake orange?) I would use 100 grams of silver metallic base (2 different layers), 3 large teaspoons of flake mixed into 60 grams clear (mixed with harder and thinner - so total 108 gram), then candy orange, 2 times 2 layers 228 grams, Lining 3 gram or so and 2 times 2 layers of clear - 216 grams of clear.
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« on: April 15, 2022, 01:02:09 PM »
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