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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on Today at 09:49:50 AM »
Well done Mike always rewarding when you overcome such obstacles - the Cylinder head was a swine to remove on my 400.

As you have the engine out it should be easier to get releasing fluid everywhere before you start.
I have found you need plenty of time for such penetrants to soak through not a quick process.
It might be a consideration to look at ways you might be able to get gravity to help so that the weight of the head itself helps.
Just wondered is there is a way to support the engine upside down on wooden blocks or similar?

It's slightly different subject area - my carb sliders took well over 24 hours of petrol & other solvents to work in a closed container, all four of my carbs were stuck solid. The last one did not yield until three or four days believe it or not. The good news is new they eventually freed off without damage of any kind.
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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by Mike_Berkshire on Today at 08:22:28 AM »
Thanks all. Im pleased to report that with the dawn of a new (rainy) day there has been another victory in the shed. What did the trick was using a blunt ended punch and using it to tap the end of the dowels using a metal hammer to get a nice sharp impact; not much force was needed and this was obviously sufficient to crack the bond between the steel dowel and the aluminium. Look out for the next posts asking for help and advice getting the head off. Im gong to leave it for a while before the next step having squirted releasing oil onto the head bolts. Thanks again for the support.
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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by davidcumbria on Today at 08:12:15 AM »
Maybe remove  the tappets and refit the covers minus o rings to give you another handy place to knock. Or if want replace them ( very cheap ) partially screw them in leaving a lip to drive against taking care to protect the valve cover edge. Haven’t tried this but it might be worth investigating.
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CB500/550 / Re: Plugs fouling at idle
« Last post by davidcumbria on Today at 08:04:26 AM »
If there's response by swapping the leads over (within one  oil pack) then analysis of why that could happen may give answer.

There's specific performance in the condenser relating to this (if the original system is in place) with it's ability to fire the mixture.

The opposite ends of the coil have slightly different spark characteristics,  with also the condition in cylinder from the live one to the wasted spark one maybe causing a bias to disadvantage the live cylinder on compression and give a shift in performance to that cylinder.

Swapping the leads checks for that, also the insulation of the HT too.
Thanks. the leads on my bike are very stiff. I’ve remade the cap connections but I’m not very happy with them. Definitely thinking of doing the Ash fix. On the other hand it starts well and has no high Rev mis fires which makes me think ignition is ok. I can live with the slight tendency to idle foul and my air screws are out  more than 1.5 turns from memory running on shell e5. I’ve improved no 1 cylinder running cool by installing #35 pilot jet and overall the bike runs very well.
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CB500/550 / Re: Plugs fouling at idle
« Last post by deltarider on Today at 06:59:28 AM »
For me the question is formost: can I indeed compensate the needles clip in 4th groove by adjusting the air screws to two turns out, like that American Honda specifications booklet suggests or should i return to the European set up with needles clip in 3rd? I have always had my doubts about that US booklet and I therefore volonteered to experiment.
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Project Board / Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Last post by Johnny4428 on Today at 06:44:30 AM »
Just catching up on this thread and without high jacking it the name Digital Speedos came up. Is anyone else on here been waiting for an order from them for a considerable time? I have been waiting 7 weeks now and they are proving very difficult to contact was beginning to think that I’ve just chucked £200 odd quid away. Then on the 15th April this email came through. And by the way I am still waiting. There was no mention of any delays when I ordered but yet the money came off the account pretty quickly!😡
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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by Bryanj on Today at 03:40:24 AM »
Yes they sieze for a passtime, not sure if they can go all the way through either hole as never tried it, the always move eventually
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CB500/550 / Re: Plugs fouling at idle
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 26, 2024, 11:13:30 PM »
Is it possible that you smell unburnt petrol as the oil has fouled up the plugs first - cause oil deposits on the plugs leading to unburnt petrol afterwards. Often you can see no blue smoke in oil burners.

Where rings have been replaced rather than a rebore with some glaze breaking  I suspect some running in might be needed before worring about  plug colours.

As an aside my 400 that was rebored by Graham has only covered some 230 odd miles - unless it starts misfiring I will not check the plug colours until it has covered about 600 miles. My idle speed is good and even - to date only bench synched the carbs as it's now running so well after my initial mistake on the plug connections when it was a two cylinder bike for a while!
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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 26, 2024, 11:01:42 PM »
Mine was fairly solid, might be worth tapping it back down where it is sligjhtly raised. I found my big rubber mallet worked making sure I  tapped it all round including some upper blows on the intake side.
I also sprayed WD40 type stuff all around the dealing area.
Thanks Ted. I have just given it another good squirting and a firmer tapping with a plastic headed mallet to no avail. I havent tried tapping upwards from the intake side; i will try that tomorrow morning after an overnight soak. Where did you bash it upwards on the intake side?

I can slide a polished paint scraper around between the castings to the right hand dowel but not the left hand one so I guess its seized on the left one. Im assuming the dowels are supposed to be locked into the head as opposed to the rocker housing?

I would tap it down on the side where you can get the scraper in AFTER squirting in releasing fluid then I tap it on the inlets first as close as possible to the head working along the four intakes - I used quite a big soft but weighty rubber mallet that I bought years ago at the centre Isle in Aldi. If you have a lead shot type mallet even better as there is no rebound. Also squirt plenty of releasing fluid down the dowel areas and bolt holes. A tap from the left and right side might help. If the front side is slightly raised keep it back down working more on the rear and sides. Cups of tea in between tapping sessions and light or medium blows should work - plenty of decent releasing fluid not standard WD4o helps. I used some  releasing fluid that car technicians use not bog standard WD40.
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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« Last post by Mike_Berkshire on April 26, 2024, 10:25:20 PM »
The dowels aren't locked to either part Mike, they are totally removable. It's just the corrosion that's making them feel locked at the moment.
Thanks Julie. Does that mean that they can be tapped out to free them or are they waisted?
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