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CB500/550 / Mid-Suffolk CB500 Update & Parts Enquiry
« on: March 27, 2023, 11:28:19 AM »
Morning all, it's been a while since I last posted so I thought I would update after the first proper ride out after a lot of tinkering.

Saturday was pretty much the first dry weekend day for ages so I took the CB for a shake-down trip - approx 30 miles around various lanes and a bit of dual carriageway. When I first got the bike in January it wasn't running well and was very reluctant to start. Fearing a blockage in carbs after I cleaned the tank, I stripped the carbs, ran them through the ultrasonic cleaner and re-built with Julie's o-ring kit (thanks Julie - excellent service and very good price!). The floats were all over the place so set them all to 22mm and vacuum balanced when all back together.

I also fitted 4 new plugs, new battery, changed oil & filter and checked & adjusted valve clearances.

The bike still doesn't want to start easily but once fired-up, settles to a nice even idle. However, during the ride on Saturday, when pulling up to junctions and waiting at traffic lights, the idle hung around at 2000 (ish) rpm before settling down and felt like it would die at any moment. I pulled on to petrol station forecourt and it did indeed die. It fired-up again having filled up and while riding, responds well to the throttle, pulling very nicely throughout the rev range with no hesitation well up to 8000 ish - any ideas why it may struggle at idle? I wondered about an air-leak but have sprayed carb-cleaner over all the inlet rubbers and no change in revs. It has the DSS electronic ignition which is set correctly.

Also, rather annoyingly, I lost the generator cover plate during the ride - I can get one from DSS but £90.... anyone have a spare or are they so rare that the price is the price?

Cheers, Phil




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CB500/550 / CB500 Two weeks into ownership update
« on: February 03, 2023, 08:33:00 AM »
Following the warm welcome I received in the "Introduce Yourself" section, I thought I would provide an update on things I have discovered so far, with my '75 CB500K1.

(Firstly, many thanks to those who responded to my first post, especially Oddjob and Bryan, who have taken time to provide lots of info).

The bike landed in my garage on Monday 23 January, having been driven up from Kent by a pal from work, whose friend had rebuilt the bike in 2018 but he sadly became ill in 2019 and hasn't used the bike since then. On the face of it, the bike looks really nice, so I'm hopeful of a bit of a tickle-up in the garage (who isn't?) and we should be in business.

First thing was to give her a clean and determine which bits needed attention - she hasn't been ridden or cleaned since tackling a few laps of the Isle of Man in 2019 so there was a bit of road-splash but nothing too serious.

It was apparent that there was a bit of rust in the tank - not too bad, but worth some action. I drained the tank and although the fuel was quite orange, there was no jelly or black nasty stuff in there, just a few tiny flakes. I did some research and it seemed as though the easiest and potentially less problematic option was to try a citric acid solution and see what happened. I bought some citric acid powder online (it's about £6/kg) and mixed up enough at 1kg acid to 10 litres hot water and brimmed the tank, leaving it overnight to do its' stuff, then drained it and re-filled with the same and again left it overnight. I had read about "flash rust" appearing immediately following draining this from the tank, so mixed-up a litre or so of petrol with a dollop of 2-stroke oil ready to pour-in after emptying-out the acid solution.

I emptied the solution into a big white bucket and it was pleasing to see it had turned a bit orange and had some small flakey bits in it but no big lumps of anything. I shone a torch inside and it looked much better, so poured in the petrol/oil mix and sloshed it around for a while, then emptied it out, flushed with another half litre of neat petrol, then filled the tank with fresh Esso Supreme 99.

I drained each of the float-bowls and again, some slightly orange but clean petrol filled my little tin up, so rather than disturb the carbs, rubbers, airbox and all that lot, I instead crossed my fingers and remembered it's a Honda.

As mentioned in my Intro thread, the throttle and clutch cables seem quite stiff; the throttle cables had been passed down through the gap in the tank-side of the clocks then along the right side of the frame  ::), so last night I re-routed the throttle to make it run a bit easier; I sent it around the steering head, through the hole in the frame where the coils sit and on to the butterfly jobby - there is an improvement but the throttle still won't close on its own... further investigation required - I've got some WD40 silicone arriving today so hopefully a squirt of that might help; if not, I'll order some new cables. I'm not sure where I need to send the clutch cable yet so any advice gratefully received!

A new battery (together with 4 lites of mineral and an OE filter) arrived from DS earlier this week, so having popped the battery on charge on Tuesday, the temptation to give it try was too great to resist.... I had poured some light oil and several squirts of spray-lube down the plug holes a day or two after delivery and for a few days after, so having tried a few tentative gentle hand-prods on the kickstart with the plugs out during the last week, I was happy that everything was (hopefully) free.... I had cleaned and gapped the plugs while they were out and the previous owner installed electronic ignition, so I hooked it up last night, connected a temporary fuel supply, kicked it over a couple of times with fuel off, then fuel on, hit the button and she burst into life, immediately chiming-in on all four. As Captain Millyard might say, I was well pleased with that.

I'll warm her through over the weekend and change the oil & filter so everything is fresh.

The right hand pair of exhausts don't line up at the balancer pipe - I've read about bracket alignment being something of a dark art, so will have a look and see if I can suss-out what's wrong there. Failing that, I have got several hammers, so I'll sort it one way or another.  :D Again, any advice on this would be most welcome!

Anyway, that's plenty of rambling so I'll update if anything interesting happens over the weekend!

Bonjour for now, Phil.





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New Member Introductions / Hello from Mid-Suffolk
« on: January 26, 2023, 12:52:48 PM »
Hi all, I've just added a 1975 CB500 to my garage to provide some company for my 1974 Suzuki GT550 and I'm looking forward to the contrast  :) Wasn't really looking for another bike but a guy at work has a pal in Kent who restored the CB in 2018 but it's hardy been ridden since and he needed to get rid of it.

It needs a bit of a freshen-up; very slight evidence of rust in the tank and the throttle is stiff so will get the tank soaking in citric acid & water and hopefully whip the carbs off this weekend to see what we've got. I don't think it's been fired-up since 2019 so have squirted some oil in the plug holes and will see if she turns over in a few days. The clutch lever is also quite stiff but will investigate further when time permits.

She needs a battery and I'll do an oil & filter change before going any further - luckily I'm not far from David Silver (who supplied all the bits for previous owner to build it) so will undoubtedly be making a few trips over there during the next few months  :)

Looking through this forum it looks to be an excellent source of info so look forward to learning more about the bike!

Cheers,
Phil

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