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Title: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Lobo on May 26, 2020, 11:24:43 PM
So I have a Schuberth helmet - which for me, is perfect. I don’t want to change it, but it is 9yo now, and I’m asking if this is a big deal?

It’s had a gentle life of a couple of hrs use / week, kept dry, and in soft surroundings. And of course, never been dropped.

So... is it good forever, or do these things need replacing on-time?

Ta.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: taysidedragon on May 27, 2020, 12:15:31 AM
Most manufacturers recommend replacing helmets after 5 years.  That is obviously on the cautious side to avoid litigation if things go wrong.
One of the biggest effects on a helmet's strength and integrity is exposure to sunlight. Other than knocks and bangs of course.
I try to look after my helmet (stop sniggering at the back!) and keep it away from sunlight as much as possible,  as well as liquids that might damage it.
I'm happy to use a good quality lid for longer than 5 years if all is ok and the fit of the lining hasn't deteriorated.
I don't buy cheap polycarbonate lids.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on May 27, 2020, 06:54:11 AM
I had an Arai that I took to the bike show at the NEC every year. Arai offer a free safety check and service.

I asked them this in year 5 and the technician told me mine was good for another couple of years.

So, depends on the individual helmet and it’s condition.

I now have a Schuberth as the replacement model for my Arai was too noisy.


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Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: cooleronthecoast on May 27, 2020, 07:14:14 AM
A common response to the question, 'How long should I keep my helmet?'  is 'How much is your head worth?'   

You could draw a parallel with old tyres that haven't done much mileage, so are road legal from a tread depth point of view, but have gone hard and perhaps have cracked with age.  Is it false economy to keep tyres (and helmets) longer than perhaps you should and risk them failing when you need them most?

We are all individuals and all have our own views on stuff like this.  I normally look to change helmets about every 5 years, but a bit like Steve, I had a couple of RX7 Arais that I really liked that I probably kept longer than I should've.   I changed to Shoei a few years back cos again, like Steve, I found the Arais to be noisy.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Bryanj on May 27, 2020, 07:29:42 AM
Fiberglass longer than plastic in sunlight, and untill the first time they hit the floor for  good life
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on May 27, 2020, 07:43:11 AM
The Arai guy talked about the impact absorbent lining ageing rather than the shell.


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Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: florence on May 27, 2020, 08:23:56 AM
I agree Steve, it is the foam inside that does all the important work and it doesn't last forever.  Over time it breaks down and will become less absorbent.  Always worth keeping your helmet in the bag it comes with to keep the sun off when not in use and usually there is a label inside with the date of manufacture.  I am notoriously penny pinching when it comes to bikes but not when it comes to safety, I always replace my helmet after five years and pay for a decent good quality item.  This last time I bought a Shoei, almost £300 but that's only £60 a year, a good deal less than my bike insurance. 

I used to favour open faced helmets because of the increased lateral vision but then my wife made me watch 24 hours in A&E on the television.  Now I always choose full face!
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: bobv7 on May 27, 2020, 08:52:24 AM
When I get back I always leave the front of my Schubeth C3 open for a while just to air before putting it away in the bag.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: SumpMagnet on May 27, 2020, 12:21:46 PM
I tend to replace mine after 5 years as I ride every day in all weathers, and it is usually the insides that are getting iffy. The padding will compress with time, and the foams degrade. They also get smelly and a bit rank, and the linings wear too.  Yes..you can take linings out and clean them....but....when you use the thing every day, opportunity to do that is limited, and to be honest...I'd rather my own odours than the chemicals in cleaners.

When I dispose of an old helmet, I always cut the straps off and slice up the liner/padding. Don't want some enterprising bin diver grabbing it, or the guy at the tip deciding he can get a few £££ flogging it on E-Bay.

Does give me an idea though......thinking about those US Diners with 'half cars' stuck on the walls. I could slice my old helmets in half...and mount them on the shed wall as decoration :)
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Green1 on May 27, 2020, 06:28:36 PM
I to have a Schubeth C3 nice lid but it does tend to put pressure on my ears if worn all day.
I use mine all year round and tend to bin them when they loosen up or just look crappy inside.
When I used to commute daily on the bike they used to be kept on muddy building sites and covered in crap the straps would rot out fairly quikly.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: davefirestorm on May 27, 2020, 09:59:10 PM
I have a few helmets and keep them clean and stored in bags/boxes  in wardrobe if not using every day all Shoeis bar 1 Bell
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Lobo on May 27, 2020, 11:32:41 PM
... thanks all, I am aware Schuberth guarantee their lids upto 5 yrs; and that this  would be catering worst case use (eg sun / weather / many cycles).
Given my lid is pampered and practically fed grapes my ponderings were that it’d be good significantly beyond this.

Regardless, will go out and about today in search of a C4 Pro...

Ta for your thoughts,
Simon
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Lobo on May 28, 2020, 06:47:01 AM
Indeed, cool helmet Oddjob.

... had an initial look through a couple of ‘bike shops today and was gobsmacked at the sheer number of helmets on display. Can’t imagine 1/2 of them ever get sold, and left wondering what happens to ‘em and whether they’re taken down after a certain time on display. Hmm.

On a separate note, here in Oz, it seems riding (almost) naked is totally acceptable - I bloody cringe at the number of folk in T-shirts and shorts doing 110kph on the m’way or wherever, on extremely powerful bikes. Florence needs them to sit down with his missus too... dear god it’s horrible to see....
Ho hum.
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: davefirestorm on May 28, 2020, 08:31:34 AM
Was looking yesterday and spotted this, really like the colour scheme and design of this helmet, it will match my gold/black CB500 when I get it on the road.

(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/Oddjob323/x-fourteen-aerodyne_tc-9.jpg)

I like the look of that Shoe,it’s worth looking at Infinity Motorcycles online they have reductions on at moment😁
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: davefirestorm on May 28, 2020, 09:57:39 AM
No they wouldn’t 😁worth looking at J&S to,I’m a tight bu**er and wait till helmets an old model.Have 4 useable helmets at mo 3 Shoei 1 Bell,wife thinks I have enough 😂😂
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Lobo on May 28, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
... if ya wait Dave for an old model have you not potentially lost a year or so of its useful life given we’re told that the linings ‘degrade’? That was my point on seeing the sheer number of helmets on display yesterday... ie most will be there too many moons after date of manufacture.
Confused!
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: davefirestorm on May 28, 2020, 10:45:26 PM
No not if it’s kept in bag/box and stored properly,Shoei technicians told me 5 years advised life of helmet but if stored properly and not dropped will last for years obviously if lining gets grubby I’d bin it
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: Laverda Dave on May 29, 2020, 10:43:26 AM
I wonder if someone from Carole Nash is reading these posts?
Strangely enough I was asked by Carole Nash to take part in an on-line survey yesterday about my attitude to safety. The majority of the questions related to helmets and how long would I keep one for, open or full face, have I ever worn one after dropping it, what make do I use, have I tried other makes etc, etc. Seems odd, maybe Carole Nash are undertaking surveys on behalf of helmet manufactures ?
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: davefirestorm on May 29, 2020, 02:41:06 PM
I have a low opinion of Carole Nash😡😡 their “advisors” know as much about motorcycles as my arse does about snipe shooting.f**kwits that’s what they are.Rant over lol.😂😂
Title: Re: Lifespan of a helmet
Post by: MrDavo on May 29, 2020, 03:02:39 PM
CN lost my business forever when they charged me £35 to end a £25 VIN number only policy, I wished I'd just not told them and left it to lapse. When my Harley got backed into by a blind bitch in a Freelander, they did a good repair job, including replacing parts that were barely scratched, but charged the claim with more than the retail price of the crap Suzuki they hired it me for 3 months while they waited for parts. If I'd known they were going to do that, and that it was going to take a whole summer, I'd have insisted on the hire of another Harley, I'm sure I'd have been within my rights to.

Regarding helmets, when I raced bikes there was a specific clothing scrutineer who always checked the age of your helmet using the label inside. She made me buy a new one, but when I ended up in hospital after a big pile up at Aintree, and noticed someone else's tyre mark on my lid, I was glad she had. That was my last race, I decided to get out while I could still walk without a permanent limp, unlike several of my mates.
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