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Title: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on July 25, 2018, 09:01:49 PM
I bought this off ebay about 3 years ago, as a K6 rolling chassis. JustcallmeMrT and myself went to pick up the bike from a dodgy council estate in Slough. The guy was operating a  bike beakers from inside his house and the rolling chassis was with a pile of other bikes and bits in his front room.
I turned up with a corsa and a hand full of tools and, we set to stripping it down on the drive and piling the parts into the back of the corsa so, no pictures of when i laid my hands on it for £350. Amazingly the bike was register in March 1977 and the last time it was taxed was August 1983, then left to rot.
It has been a long time getting it to this stage as work always got in the way and a few problems with the clutch and it sumping, even though the oil pump was rebuilt along with the F1 engine, which i had as a spare.
So what we ended up with in the end was a old school look to a K6, with F2 tank and clocks made up from parts i had laying around.
She finally had her maiden voyage tonight.     
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Laverda Dave on July 25, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
That's a very tasty looking bike Trigger. I thought you dont like to build specials?
Maybe you should contact Bike EXIF, it's as good as any bike on their website with the added bonus you can actually ride your bike!
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: philward on July 25, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Normal high standard Graham - and makes up the 'His and Hers' pair!
Title: A RUF 750
Post by: JamesH on July 25, 2018, 10:35:20 PM
Nice build that Graham. Nice one..!!
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on July 25, 2018, 10:36:20 PM
That's a very tasty looking bike Trigger. I thought you dont like to build specials?
Maybe you should contact Bike EXIF, it's as good as any bike on their website with the added bonus you can actually ride your bike!

I wouldn't call it a special, still std carbs and airbox so, i know it will run right. It is a bit of a run away train and would benefit from a twin disc  ;)
The main problem with any build that differs away from the original is, to keep the handling while trying to make look good. To me the handling is a lot more important than any looks  ;)
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Rob62 on July 25, 2018, 10:38:47 PM
Very nice! Nice driveway too  :D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: paul G on July 25, 2018, 10:46:41 PM
Great looking build Graham. Nice to see another bike saved and put back on the road.
Is this one going up for sale.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on July 25, 2018, 10:49:46 PM
Great looking build Graham. Nice to see another bike saved and put back on the road.
Is this one going up for sale.


Maybe  ;)  Or i may consider a UK, K1 as part ex  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: paul G on July 25, 2018, 10:51:10 PM
Great looking build Graham. Nice to see another bike saved and put back on the road.
Is this one going up for sale.


Maybe  ;)  Or i may consider a UK, K1 as part ex  ;D ;D ;D
😂😂😂
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Norniron on July 25, 2018, 10:59:29 PM
Looks the part G
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: thegreatpan on July 26, 2018, 08:17:48 AM
Nice looking bike. I think RUF used to be a Brighton registration, if so the original bike probably came from the now defunct Redhill Motors in North Road.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 26, 2018, 09:10:35 AM
That's a very tasty looking bike Trigger. I thought you dont like to build specials?

He can't stand building specials Dave, he hates doing it with a passion. The problem is, what do you do with all the parts that you take off other bikes you buy that you are going to restore back to standard?  You could throw them in the skip but what a waste, you could flog them on eBay but can't be bothered or you could leave them laying around in the workshop collecting dirt and then throw them in the skip. At least by cobbling a bike together, the parts get used and it keeps another SOHC on the road in some form or another.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 26, 2018, 09:13:32 AM
I’ve been to that guy in Slough Trig.

Front wheel for an R80 if I remember.

Surely there can’t be more than one guy who breaks bikes in his house in a dodgy part of Slough!


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Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: andut on July 26, 2018, 09:19:07 AM
That's a nice looking bike Graham, and a much better plan to build a bike rather than sell a collection of parts.  I'm sure building something different to the normal restoration will provide a different riding experience and that exhaust will release the inner hooligan   :D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on July 26, 2018, 05:47:49 PM
Must be the same place Steve, every window on the house, smashed or a crack in it  ;D

The exhaust is a 80's Laser that i must of took off a 750 in the 90's. Not too loud  ;)
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: JustcallmeMrT on July 26, 2018, 05:49:52 PM
Well that looks a lot nicer than when we crammed it into the back of your corsa!  Nice job mate!


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Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on July 26, 2018, 05:56:53 PM
Well that looks a lot nicer than when we crammed it into the back of your corsa!  Nice job mate!


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Nice neighbourhood if you are wearing a bullet proof jacket  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Spitfire on July 26, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
Nice one, as others have said it's nice to see another one saved and back on the road.

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: MarkCR750 on August 01, 2018, 09:42:05 PM
Nice job that Graham, good clean lines 👍
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 01, 2018, 10:13:31 PM
Just coming up to the 200 mile mark and pulling stronger, as the engine runs in more and everything beds in.
Any one know how much one of these F tanks hold ?
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Bryanj on August 02, 2018, 06:37:42 AM
Not enough!
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 02, 2018, 07:27:06 AM
Not enough!

Good answer but, not the one i was looking for  ;)
Can't find out how many litres the F2 tank holds.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: sye on August 02, 2018, 09:03:07 AM
This suggests 18.00 litres:
https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_750_f_2_1977.php
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: K2-K6 on August 02, 2018, 09:38:00 AM
Honda's manual has got it at 17.5 ltrs.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Spitfire on August 02, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
I'm always looking for a garage when I go out with my mate, the F2 tank that I have fitted is the same as the F1 but with a different tap spigot and according to the F2/K8 manual (thanks Bryan) holds 19.5 litres, 5.1 US gallon or 4.3 Imp gallon. The reserve holds about 1 gallon of that. Surprisingly the K8 tank is smaller and holds 17.5 litres I always thought the K tank was bigger.

Hold on
I've just pulled out my original F1 handbook and it states that the fuel capacity is 17 liters (3.7 imp gal) including 5 liters (1.1 imp gal) in the reserve supply, this sounds a bit more realistic to me.

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 02, 2018, 12:33:16 PM
Anywhere between 17 and 19.5, typical Honda  ;D ;D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Green1 on August 02, 2018, 06:44:50 PM
Fill it from empty that will tell you.  ;)
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: K2-K6 on August 02, 2018, 07:45:25 PM
I've definitely got that F2 tank at 17.5 with it's reserve level set at 4.5 ltrs

The K7 is definitely 19.5 but with 4.0 ltrs of reserve level.

Didn't post originally but compliments for a nice build.
I know the style splits opinion, but as Julie says, a pile of bits is better in one whole bike than just laying around. At least you can have fun on it in this form.

Looks very well put together as you do see some real piles of crap running around with complete disregard for the rider's own health.  I know it's supposed to look edgy in that style but think some builders confuse that with just shonky old assembly.


Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 02, 2018, 09:01:06 PM
Cheers for the info Nigel  ;)


They always go for looks which upsets the handling and running of their bike. I want a bike to handle well above any looks and, i want a bike that is going to start instantly.
I always have a saying : The japs did not put millions of man hours and billions of Yen to get it wrong. And if anyone asks me to fit a big bore kit, i always refuse and ask why. They always reply, I want to go faster. Well, if you want to go faster, then buy a faster bike  ;)
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Rob62 on August 06, 2018, 09:13:10 PM
I agree 100% trigger..... its like the 2t boys doing all the porting etc on the tzr’s / rgv’s which are already fast enough. All they do is make em unreliable. Then again how many times do you see brand new bmw 1000 owners (with standard 200bhp) having power commanders and akrapovic exhaust fitted to gain a few extra bhp! As if any normal rider can possibly use it....  :o
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 06, 2018, 10:17:52 PM
I would use it  ;D But, i am a bit nuts on fast bikes. Was doing a stupid speed up the A1 yesterday and then along side me was the  souped up volvo  of the law, giving me a wagging finger  ;D
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Bryanj on August 08, 2018, 05:32:41 AM
Was that the Volvo F12 Trigger?
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Trigger on August 08, 2018, 06:35:01 AM
Was that the Volvo F12 Trigger?

 ;D ;D I did have to look that up as the last truck i was at the wheel of was a Layland T45  :o
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Bryanj on August 08, 2018, 04:10:59 PM
Plod is getting sneaky(er) now and have plain tractor units with no speed limiter so the passenger can see into truck cabs and knick drivers for naughties like phones
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: hairygit on August 08, 2018, 05:40:42 PM
Plod is getting sneaky(er) now and have plain tractor units with no speed limiter so the passenger can see into truck cabs and knick drivers for naughties like phones
I'm afraid I'm in favour of nailing ANYBODY using a phone while driving, at the end of the day, we all know it's against the law, don't moan if you get caught doing it. (And it's a £2,500 fine for a commercial driver caught doing so!)
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Green1 on August 08, 2018, 05:44:42 PM
I to Have to agree with Hairy  :o I see at least 10 drivers a day on the phone
I don't mind the plod being a little sneaky to catch bad driving.
Hiding speed traps on the other hand pisses me off.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 08, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
Agree 100% with Hairy and £2500 isn't enough of a fine. There is absolutely no excuse to be holding and using a phone in this day and age. Personally, I think looking at sat navs whilst driving is as bad if not worse.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Green1 on August 08, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
I pass a car almost every morning and it has so much stuff on the screen I think he must be relying on the satnav to see where he's going because there's not much screen left to look out off.
I'm sure he has an IPad on there.  :o
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Bryanj on August 09, 2018, 01:28:16 AM
I agree about the phones, i wont answer unless its bluetoothed to my ear slug. The real point was forces spending £100,000 on a unit to catch not many people
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: hairygit on August 09, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
I agree about the phones, i wont answer unless its bluetoothed to my ear slug. The real point was forces spending £100,000 on a unit to catch not many people
  Problem is Bryan, a road death costs a whole lot more, last figures I saw published a few years ago, was £390,000 per fatality. That's totalling Emergency services, hospital treatments and staff, then the inquest, it all costs big time. So if they stop just one fatality, it has more than paid for itself. Remember a few months back the Polish truck driver that was texting and slammed into stationary traffic and wiped out an entire family? He was caught by his company's cab camera's, and he has gone to prison for a long time. A few months back they were patrolling the A30 and A38 here in Devon, they filmed a Lithuanian trucker cooking Spag bol on a primus stove while doing 56mph, a Tesco truck driver using cruise control steering with his feet while texting, AND watching a movie on an I pad on the dashboard, so do you still think £100k is expensive??
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: K2-K6 on August 09, 2018, 10:45:52 AM
I saw those vids HG and think anyone would agree that things like that should be prevented.

A mate got stopped by one of those (he drives car transporters) and they showed him the incriminating footage filmed from tractor unit passenger seat,  of him driving..........without a seatbelt..........there was no "don't be a knob" or "come on, be sensible mate we don't want to attend an accident with you injured " or anything like that.  Just a straight fixed penalty ticket and nothing as sensible as telling him that if caught again he'll be ticketed. He's one of the most conscientious drivers I know regarding risk to other road users.  That just seems the wrong way to deal with things and brings resentment that should be avoided.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: mickwinf on August 09, 2018, 11:53:21 AM
I have even stopped using hands free as i saw a report that it still distracts your attention enough to be dangerous, although i am a driving instructor so will always be extra cautious.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: MCTID on August 09, 2018, 12:47:08 PM
When I was teaching Safety Courses on the Railway a few years ago I advised the real cost to Society for a death was approximately £1.5 MILLION. It was a commonly accepted figure throughout the HSE fraternity, but hardly any of my Students got anywhere close when challenged to guess a figure.

Another little snippet I used was the fact that when using a Mobile whilst driving a car your reaction time was slower than if you were over the Drink Driving Alcohol Limit. Again, most Students had no idea that this was the case.

Around 1993 I had two mobiles in my job visiting LU Stations to audit Contractors working on the Railway. Driving through London in the early hours I once answered the 'On Call' mobile to give some advice to a member of our Station Staff. When I finished the conversation I pulled over and found that I had no recollection whether the last set of Traffic Lights I had driven through were Red or Green.

From that moment I have never answered a mobile whilst I'm driving.......I don't have a 'Hands Free' facility because I firmly believe that driving requires 100% concentration........I don't usually listen to CD's or the Radio whilst driving for the same reason, but that is a personal preference.

To work on the Railway, you have to attend a Training Course every two years, taking an examination BEFORE you commence the course. If you fail, your 'Training Certificates' are taken off you and you cannot work on the Railway until you take another course and pass the standard required. I never had any problem with this as you should not be in a dangerous environment if you don't meet the required standard.
Conversely, I passed my Driving Test in 1967 and no one has ever asked me to take any further tests or training to either improve or test my driving skills.........which I think is absurd. Holding a Driving Licence is a privilege, not a right........but every day we see idiots driving about who should not be allowed behind a wheel or the handlebars of a lethal weapon.
Sorry my view is a bit long winded, but it's backed up by 51 years driving experience.
Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 09, 2018, 06:16:24 PM
I saw £1.2M per fatality and also read the report about hands free use being worse than drinking.

Many of my mates use Bluetooth setups and answer the phone on their bikes.

I don’t. Bike time is my time


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Title: Re: A RUF 750
Post by: Green1 on August 09, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
I have never used a phone wile driving and will never use hands free. If you've seen my phone you will know why  ;D
I can't employ anyone because I can't find anyone that can live without there phone glued to there ear.

Why anyone would even consider a phone conversation wile riding a bike I don't know.
Bike time is precious to me and its getting rarer due to work and its my time where I can switch off and forget everything  :)
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