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Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: Rozabikes Tim on November 05, 2023, 06:34:03 PM
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Multiman's trolley thread got me thinking...
Some who have met me will know I am loosing mobility due to muscle wastage. Arms and legs are effected. However although likely never to ride a bike again, I love working on them and determined when time allows, to get properly into the 400/4 resto....
Anyway because of my condition, I cannot pump the hydraulic lift pedal to lift the platform. Anybody ever done a motorised mod on these at all? Or do any of you engineering wizards have any ideas?
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Tim I hope I adopt the same attitude as you should I lose my mobility, it is in the w/shop that I get as much enjoyment from these bikes. My bike lift had an air pump on it when I bought it but seeing how the pedal operates the pump on these manually i can see no problem with converting to be operated by hand or with compressed air. Bound to be someone on here that could suggest something. Good luck!
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After a quick search inevitably there are several YouTube videos on doing a conversion.
Cursory look suggests they buy an air operated ram and replace the existing. Some welding required.
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To throw in an idea https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175919035113 items like these offer possibilities, cost potentially a barrier though and adaption required. Its a outboard motor lift hydraulic unit. A friend has used this type before to provide lift for snowplough blade on the front of a land rover !
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Things like this available too https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004382089829.html again of ram + motor unit combined.
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Thanks chaps. Looks like the compressed air route is the most cost effective way having googled things. I searched for an electric motorisation option before and not much came up.
Loads with air / hydraulic jack based conversions. All pretty similar and straight forward it seems.
Did note a couple said spec on what were automotive jacks said only to use them upright but they said no issues. One guy topped up hydraulic fluid when jack on its side as it would be when fitted to lift.
Can't see me doing this very soon but not frightening engineering involved.
Thanks again for the input.
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I guess you have looked at one like this - an expensive but safe option.
https://www.craigmoreonline.co.uk/680kg-heavy-duty-motorcycle-lift-electro-hydraulic?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAuqKqBhDxARIsAFZELmJBnLBsnunHoCbcSq5PpdzpnZ4c9k6kvGj_O3AODUxYodV76z5wAFAaAszVEALw_wcB
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Ouch that is a few quid!
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Ouch that is a few quid!
This one is a tad cheaper especially if you can claim back the VAT.
https://www.mccormicktools.co.uk/product/sealey-mc454e-motorcycle-lift-450kg-12v-electro-hydraulic#f65a/classic-initial/
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Thanks Ted. Lesser ouch - I'm a tight git too!! I actually quite fancy the fabrication challenge.
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Machine mart do an air assisted ramp. If yours is a Clarke one (or similar) I'm sure you could add this option.
Maybe worth investigating.
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In fact, I'm tempted to do that to mine....
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Mmmmm very interesting.....
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Is it possible to add a long extension to the foot pedal so that you can pump by hand with a lot less effort?
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FWIW I think I have only raised the height of my ramp with my 500 on it about three times this year. Clearly lowering needs no pumping except to take the pressure off the safety bar. When I start to struggle with the pumping up I hope to still have the advantage of a reluctant Wendy to assist me.
Be interesting to read your solution Tim - mine is a Clarke stand but I have no airline supply. The extra long pedal sounds an interesting option.
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Mmm, may not be as simple as I thought!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSNlGm-Cmgc&ab_channel=NewOrleansScooterCooperative (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSNlGm-Cmgc&ab_channel=NewOrleansScooterCooperative)
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Yes saw that as a bespoke part which doubt can be sourced in the UK. Just wonder if the little silver air box thingy screwed into existing pump per original image/ post / suggestion, is available?
I am going to a party Sat eve and hopefully an acquaintance of mine will be there who specialises in hydraulics. I'll bend his ear!
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I've sent an email to Machine Mart spares department (I've dealt with them before on other bits of kit) and let you know what they say.
My hydraulic ram is like the one removed on the video clip.
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I've sent an email to Machine Mart spares department (I've dealt with them before on other bits of kit) and let you know what they say.
My hydraulic ram is like the one removed on the video clip.
Appreciated. My lift is under a load of boxes in the garage - post extension and I need a sort out. I need to check lift mechanism. Its a generic Chinese important I'm sure but all very similar and probably made by the same people..
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Machine mart do an air assisted ramp. If yours is a Clarke one (or similar) I'm sure you could add this option.
Maybe worth investigating.
(Attachment Link)
In fact, I'm tempted to do that to mine....
Basically the system on my (Made in China?) bike lift...
Takes longer then pumping manually though, with my small compressor it struggles a little with a 312kg ST1100 on the plate... ;)
But it works, servicing the jack (replacing/topping off the oil) does help...
(had to upgrade the release mechanism with actual U-joints, tiny cotter-pins on the original design didn't cut it...)
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Machine mart do an air assisted ramp. If yours is a Clarke one (or similar) I'm sure you could add this option.
Maybe worth investigating.
(Attachment Link)
In fact, I'm tempted to do that to mine....
Basically the system on my (Made in China?) bike lift...
Takes longer then pumping manually though, with my small compressor it struggles a little with a 312kg ST1100 on the plate... ;)
But it works, servicing the jack (replacing/topping off the oil) does help...
(had to upgrade the release mechanism with actual U-joints, tiny cotter-pins on the original design didn't cut it...)
Yes must be similar to mine. That linkage as standard is shocking. Looking at the videos converting with the air jacks etc., that point was addressed regularly. Best solution was a dewalt 90 degree extension then linked to UV joints and socket drives etc.
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My mate who is still in the trade has a motorised bench, seem to be sort of standard in the trade these days, seem to think it was air assisted. I do remember watching him lift a bike and commenting on how much easier that was than the old hydraulic benches we had at Queenies, I'd love one of those TBH, really reliable. Not sure what my bench is as it's still in storage until I get my new workshop built next year.