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Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: Johnny4428 on December 10, 2023, 09:16:20 AM
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Anybody on here got a bike or parts in Candy Jade Green. I am steering towards this colour. Although my initial preference was Freedom green metallic. Just trying to stick with age and model appropriate colours.
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https://tanklackieren.de/Honda-colours
Check out Menno Dek (Tanklackieren) for Honda Colours.......
The beautiful shiny red Triumph Tank and Mudguards shown on his website are from my 1970 T120R.
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Menno painted my 500K0 Candy Jade Green ( well it's actually described as Candy Jet Green in all of the Parts Books) as that is what the bike was originally. Not 100% sure but I think he hadn't done that colour before as he researched the base-coat and it was a bluish metallic coat with candy on top. Lovely job. I also got a NOS gold tank (for a 'change of clothes' ) .... if required but it's the wrong gold for the K0 ... Candy Custom Gold not Candy Starlight Gold.
My friend had his K2 done in Jade Green in the UK and bought the paint from RS Bikepaints ... at a price !
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Was originally Jade Green, goes with ruby red, emerald green, garnet brown, sapphire blue. Think the US started calling it Jet and it stuck in places. Jade green on CMSNL.
My K0 is in original jade green. I like the fact that it's unusual. But I do have other sets in custom gold and ruby red. And have a spare set that may get to be garnet brown. Shame I missed those side panels yesterday
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Excuse the old front wheel. The original has the original tyre, but don't trust it to use.
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Was originally Jade Green, goes with ruby red, emerald green, garnet brown, sapphire blue. Think the US started calling it Jet and it stuck in places. Jade green on CMSNL.
My K0 is in original jade green. I like the fact that it's unusual. But I do have other sets in custom gold and ruby red. And have a spare set that may get to be garnet brown. Shame I missed those side panels yesterday
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Excuse the old front wheel. The original has the original tyre, but don't trust it to use.
Don't thinks so ;) ... here is the Parts Book entry. Deffo Jet Green.
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My USA May 1971 parts book lists it as Candy Jet Green. That's listed like your pic Ash, where the tank is shown as colours.
However my 1972 UK parts book doesn't list the colours on the tank or side panel page, it shows them by paint codes, in this case KD.
The front of the parts book shows a table which lists the code and the corresponding colours and KD is listed as Candy Jade Green not Jet.
Which TBH makes more sense, Jet is black, Jade is Green, so why describe a colour as Candy Black Green is beyond me.
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My USA May 1971 parts book lists it as Candy Jet Green. That's listed like your pic Ash, where the tank is shown as colours.
However my 1972 UK parts book doesn't list the colours on the tank or side panel page, it shows them by paint codes, in this case KD.
The front of the parts book shows a table which lists the code and the corresponding colours and KD is listed as Candy Jade Green not Jet.
Which TBH makes more sense, Jet is black, Jade is Green, so why describe a colour as Candy Black Green is beyond me.
Not significant in 1971/72 if you were ordering parts from a dealer .. you would specify what is listed in the parts listing IMHO that;s what Honda called it
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My USA May 1971 parts book lists it as Candy Jet Green. That's listed like your pic Ash, where the tank is shown as colours.
However my 1972 UK parts book doesn't list the colours on the tank or side panel page, it shows them by paint codes, in this case KD.
The front of the parts book shows a table which lists the code and the corresponding colours and KD is listed as Candy Jade Green not Jet.
Which TBH makes more sense, Jet is black, Jade is Green, so why describe a colour as Candy Black Green is beyond me.
Not significant in 1971/72 if you were ordering parts from a dealer .. you would specify what is listed in the parts listing IMHO that;s what Honda called it
Agree, but why would anyone be ordering a candy jade green in UK, it was never available in the UK model range 🤔🤔🤔
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It's not listed as for the UK Ash, it shows the countries they were available in and it shows the colour as Candy Jade Green for those countries where it was available.
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My USA May 1971 parts book lists it as Candy Jet Green. That's listed like your pic Ash, where the tank is shown as colours.
However my 1972 UK parts book doesn't list the colours on the tank or side panel page, it shows them by paint codes, in this case KD.
The front of the parts book shows a table which lists the code and the corresponding colours and KD is listed as Candy Jade Green not Jet.
Which TBH makes more sense, Jet is black, Jade is Green, so why describe a colour as Candy Black Green is beyond me.
Not significant in 1971/72 if you were ordering parts from a dealer .. you would specify what is listed in the parts listing IMHO that;s what Honda called it
Agree, but why would anyone be ordering a candy jade green in UK, it was never available in the UK model range 🤔🤔🤔
I didn't specify it would be ordered from the UK. I meant anyone in the 'market' to order one would use the parts book reference.... which describes the colour as Jet not Jade
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Don't suppose it would matter at all Ash, any partsman would just order using the parts number not the description.
They did make mistakes though, I bought a brand new Starlight Gold tank from Queenies Parts Dept that they clearly ordered by mistake, I've also bought a brand new Jade Green side panel back in the early 80s from a UK source, clearly just using part numbers to describe them didn't work too well in the UK. TBH I always referred to the colour as Jade Green, never heard of Jet Green until 10 years or so ago.
I wonder what colour the brochures described them as?
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Well Honda only supplied some colours to some countries, US didnt get Black, we didnt get green
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Don't suppose it would matter at all Ash, any partsman would just order using the parts number not the description.
They did make mistakes though, I bought a brand new Starlight Gold tank from Queenies Parts Dept that they clearly ordered by mistake, I've also bought a brand new Jade Green side panel back in the early 80s from a UK source, clearly just using part numbers to describe them didn't work too well in the UK. TBH I always referred to the colour as Jade Green, never heard of Jet Green until 10 years or so ago.
I wonder what colour the brochures described them as?
For European Direct Sales it was Jade Ken. JamesH did put a pic on here ages ago of the USA Brochure but like a lot of images ..it no longer comes up...seem to think it was Jade though.
It's a bit like Honda 'Rat Grey' on the C90 .. some people wold say a rat is brown or black ;D ;D Didn't know the Green K0 was available in Europe but thinking about it the MCM review was a green bike from Europe.
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Ooops! Opened a can of worms! Think I’ll stick with my original preference freedom green metallic. 🤭🤭
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Ooops! Opened a can of worms! Think I’ll stick with my original preference freedom green metallic. 🤭🤭
Only good clean fun banter Johnny ;D ;D ... Freedom green metallic will certainly be cheaper than candy although I am not familiar with it.
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Odd looking at the brochure how Honda adapted the wording to suit the market. In my UK parts book Starlight gold is spelled like that, but on the brochure it's spelled Starlite, plus colours doesn't have the U in it. That's clearly a European market brochure though as it mentions a passing light switch which of course the yanks didn't get. Also missing the grab rail.
Got to say most of the rats I've seen were grey, wonder why they didn't call it Battleship Grey instead. Saw a modern Honda car in that colour a couple of years ago and it looked awesome. One of my C50s was rat grey, great colour
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Ooops! Opened a can of worms! Think I’ll stick with my original preference freedom green metallic. 🤭🤭
Only good clean fun banter Johnny ;D ;D ... Freedom green metallic will certainly be cheaper than candy although I am not familiar with it.
Indeed Ash! Freedom green metallic was available to the early CB550 and also the Cb750 but possibly the American market. It’s a nice deep green. Apparently RS Paints hadn’t heard of it either but after contacting them they asked if I could send them something with the original colour, but I don’t have anything available to send.
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Ooops! Opened a can of worms! Think I’ll stick with my original preference freedom green metallic. 🤭🤭
Only good clean fun banter Johnny ;D ;D ... Freedom green metallic will certainly be cheaper than candy although I am not familiar with it.
Indeed Ash! Freedom green metallic was available to the early CB550 and also the Cb750 but possibly the American market. It’s a nice deep green. Apparently RS Paints hadn’t heard of it either but after contacting them they asked if I could send them something with the original colour, but I don’t have anything available to send.
Yamiya do the Freedom Green kits. Not a colour we had in the UK model range but quite popular in USA.
https://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=246_157_271_243&products_id=2671
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Ooops! Opened a can of worms! Think I’ll stick with my original preference freedom green metallic. 🤭🤭
Only good clean fun banter Johnny ;D ;D ... Freedom green metallic will certainly be cheaper than candy although I am not familiar with it.
Indeed Ash! Freedom green metallic was available to the early CB550 and also the Cb750 but possibly the American market. It’s a nice deep green. Apparently RS Paints hadn’t heard of it either but after contacting them they asked if I could send them something with the original colour, but I don’t have anything available to send.
I think I may have cover for The 500 in that colour you could borrow, that I will eventually paint Starlight Gold.. Problem is ..last time I loaned RS a NOS part to match, they subsequently lost it and made no apologies for doing so.
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Thanks Ash! I think once bitten and all that. No apologies either!😡😡 I will try and source from elsewhere rather than risk any precious parts going astray or getting broken. Especially someone else’s parts.
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Will check it out tonight ... just impress on them you need it back!
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Actually this firm seem to have the recipe. https://www.twowheelparts.nl/en/paint/colorpaint/honda/1022279/freedom-green-metallic-cb-750-k4-cb-550-k0-usa-freedom-green-met-375ml-paintbottle.html
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Hi ... One option is to take panel into any decent paint shop and get them to scan it to get a formula. My friend did this with his 'Gentle Maroon Metallic' for his CB250K4 (on my recommendation because RS paint was mega expensive for that paint scheme) and it turned out great. From memory 500ml of basecoat (thinned makes 1 litre) was about £23 inc VAT
That kit you linked has 1k lacquer .. I always use 2k either Mipa or 2k in a can Spraymax both give excellent results and E10 fuel resistant.
You can borrow my panel if you like (assuming colour is correct). Here it is.
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Never even thought about that Ash, I could probably source locally in which case I would take you up on your kind offer of borrowing your side panel. There would be no rush as I wouldn’t be painting until the summer time. I will send a PM.
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Hi Ash and Johnny,
If there is no rush, then my Cousin will be visiting - probably in the Spring and he lives in Anlaby High Road, not far from you Ash. I know he would be more than willing to collect and return the panel to save possible loss in transit. He will be coming by road and via Inverness, so it could be arranged for him have it analysed at Dingbros and paint collected. Graham at Hatston was talking about investing in a colour analyser - I'll find out if there is any progress.
Ian
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Fantastic Ian, and most helpful! Spring time would be great and certainly wouldn’t be needing before that.
Does Eddie have an analyser Ian?
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I'm not aware that Eddie R has one but Leslie will know - he's coming here tomorrow with lots of AJS bits for me to assemble - wish I could retire!
Ian
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The other option Johnny is to get it scanned and formulated at APS in Hull and just buy and send the paint. That's the place my mate got his Gentle Maroon Metallic paint from. They deffo have a scanner. Ian it's on Cournenay St Ind Estate. They would probably post it too as they post all of the time.
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Hi Ash,
That was another thought - I have bought from APS before and I'm sure cousin Neil would pick it up from you, have it scanned at APS on his way to visit his Mum in Hornsea and return it same day. Then Johnny could liaise with them and have the base coat (and primer if special) made up and delivered. I'll speak to Neil and pm you for contact - did he ever pick up or drop off at yours before, I seem to have some vague memory?
Ian
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Hi Ash,
That was another thought - I have bought from APS before and I'm sure cousin Neil would pick it up from you, have it scanned at APS on his way to visit his Mum in Hornsea and return it same day. Then Johnny could liaise with them and have the base coat (and primer if special) made up and delivered. I'll speak to Neil and pm you for contact - did he ever pick up or drop off at yours before, I seem to have some vague memory?
Ian
I think you have to leave the part with them for a few days Ian..they won't do it the same day. I am always going in there as it's not too far from my mates warehouse on Wincolmlee where I do my painting. Why don't I get some paint mixed and then your cousin can pick up the paint from me. I don't think he has been here before though Ian. Alternatively, I am sure APS would post it as a lot of their business is online these days.
I would need to know the paint quantity though. My friend bought 500ml (thins to 1 litre) and that did his CB250K4 fuel tank, side panels and fork ears and fork lower shrouds. I honestly don't mind doing this for Johnny and it saves posting a panel backwards and forwards.
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I can also do you a spray out card when he's mixed it to check it out.
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That would be great Ash! I would be happy with 500ml to make up a litre when it comes to quantity. I’m very grateful for your assistance.