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In concept, the inner race of the bearings form one complete tube along with the other bits mounted onto the axle, tightening should clamp all those elements tight together in one continuous load path.

In production reality and tolerancing, the bearing "seats" in the wheel casting and the bearing spacer length would have to be very accurate OR individually shimmed to get an exact match once torque is applied at assembly.

What the common design does is to to use one reference bearing (usually the chain side on rear, often left side on front) to fully fix the outer race hard against it's hub shoulder, then retainer ring to keep it from moving.

The opposite side is usually left with some space between outer track and wheel shoulder, this to effectively "float" in the wheel axialy. That can then be used for tolerance of the assembly comprising of primary bearing, spacers etc. Not too critical in other words, the primary bearing controlling lateral location.

It SHOULD turn freely when all tightened, but will accommodate some bearing preload if need be (that would mean spacer total was less than the two hub shoulder in dimensions) with any significant drag being cause for concern and a look at just what components and their placing is doing in there.

If the rear wheel was tightened with no brake drag and no chain fitted, then likely you'd feel some small shift in rotation with anything significant causing more concern. They should spin reasonably easily, but not like a bicycle wheel does  :)

It's odd to describe and sounds like a "fudge" to say so, but unlike setting a bearing arrangement for preloaded by measuring turning torque etc, these are just meant to be assembled, correctly,  with no real methods except assuring the right parts are used and in the right place.

Judgement would give that any significant changes as it's tightened should raise questions, as Ted's done, then investigating exactly how the various parts are installed to try and make absolutely sure all is in the right orientation.

Bit long winded, but difficult to describe in a different way,, possibly  :)
Thanks for that helpful clarification. I remember now what the issue was on a front wheel. After shouldering the first bearing continued driving inward  of the the outer race of the non shouldering second bearing using a socket  jams the the inner race against the separating tube and introduces side load by pushing the outer race further inward. It’s a matter of feel to decide when to stop since there is no shouldering of the outer race. So to get a free spinning bearing I had to pull it out slightly again. When tightening the spindle with its spacers  fixed length of the inner race assembly prevents excessive inward movement of the outer race.
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Thanks Johnny I'm pleased with the build so far. I just hope the engine  starts & runs as my 400 does. It's my forever bike so not worried that it cost around £2k more to rebuild than my 400. I've pretty much bought all my parts to finish the project.

Never say never but this is probably my last project. I'm keeping my first born - my 400,  between the two I should always have a runner as long as I'm able to ride a bike.
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Out & About / Re: First outing. 2024
« Last post by Laverdaroo on Today at 11:11:53 PM »
That’s a dribble worthy piccy Johnny, mighty fine


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That’s looking good Ted, shiney shiney

Loving the rims!


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Looking very good Ted, you've been busy👍
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CB350/400 / Re: Anyone recognise this bit?
« Last post by Laverdaroo on Today at 11:03:01 PM »
Well if it is, it left no mark Ted


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CB350/400 / Re: Anyone recognise this bit?
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on Today at 10:52:01 PM »
Might not be a 0.22 how about a 0.177.🤔🤔🤔
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I had no issues Mike  when I did my 400 rear wheel so I was well miffed when the 500 did not work out first fit.

After chatting to Ken on reflection I obviously did not fit the right side bearing fully home. The 500 has that short extra spacer that fits into the left bearing as well as the long center spacer. Make sure you fit the short spacer fully home  into the fixed left side bearing before you fit it.
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CB350/400 / Re: Anyone recognise this bit?
« Last post by Laverdaroo on Today at 10:00:20 PM »
I’m not sure but that’s not even a 22’

Got me flummoxed that, no bloody idea and gonna drive me nuts now! Grrrrr!

Cheers chaps,


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CB350/400 / Re: Anyone recognise this bit?
« Last post by Johnny4428 on Today at 09:58:28 PM »
Any snipers around there Roo? 😂😂
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